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Amazon stock is backordered, but shipping

Nokia Oyj. (HEL:NOK1V) hasn't put out any sales numbers yet on the Lumia 900 LTE smartphone, but suffice it to say that Windows Phone's "hero phone" is the platform's biggest hit to date, despite some early launch hiccups.

While it likely won't hold a candle to Apple, Inc.'s (AAPL) 4 million iPhone 4Ss sold on launch week, Nokia appears to be struggling to keep pace with sizeable demand for the Lumia 900 LTE.  

Like the iPhone 4, that demand comes thanks in part to a slick form factor, which helped both phones overcoming connectivity firmware bugs (in Apple's case dropped calls, in Nokia's case dead data connections).

Lumia 900 in Hand (3/6)
(Click image to enlarge) [©: Jason Mick/DailyTech LLC]
 
AT&T reports that the phone is sold out.  Secondary retailer Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN) lists the devices as backordered with a 5-9 day shipping time.

The news came as Nokia was wrapping up its speed delivery of a crucial update/fix over Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) Zune store, which will fix the connectivity issues afflicting some users.

These numbers are promising signs -- indeed, the phrases "sold out" and "Windows Phone" have seldom been mentioned before in the same sentence.  Looking ahead, two primary challenges face Microsoft and Nokia's increasingly promising alliance.

Lumia backordered
The Lumia 900 LTE is in high demand -- it's back-ordered at Amazon and sold out at AT&T.  Such success is a first for Windows Phone and the first good news for Nokia in a long time.

The first big challenge will be to expand the app selection.  While Windows Phone has over 70,000 apps available today, including thousands of games, it lacks some high profile titles -- for example Temple RunCut the Rope, and Words With Friends.  Behemoths Google Inc. (GOOG) and Apple, Inc. (AAPL) boast 400,000 and 600,000 apps respectively.

Aside from apps, Windows Phone needs visibility.  Microsoft has created an advanced user interface, a colorful, vibrant interface that not only looks good, but is pre-customized with much more useful notifications than stock Android or iOS builds.  Microsoft's OS also features an innovative hierarchical organization of apps, which makes finding your lesser-used apps or related apps less of a chore.  The problem is that most people are unaware that Windows Phone even exists; much less that Microsoft has thought so far outside the box and achieved such impressive results.

Cut the Rope
Microsoft must work to improve its app selection -- many high profile titles like "Cut the Rope" are missing from the platform, though there's thousands of great apps as well.
[Image Source: iTunes]

The lack of visibility and apps may fade in time.  Recall, Android's first two years on the market (2008-2009) saw it languish with only a small market share, and limited visibility as veteran firms Apple, Research in Motion, Ltd. (TSE:RIM), and -- ironically -- Nokia, duked it out.  Today, Microsoft is in a similar position to Google, and like Google it is staying patient and financially committed.

There's no guarantee that the union between Microsoft and Nokia will continue to bear fruit -- both companies have had their fair share of struggles in the consumer space.  But ultimately a rising Microsoft is good news for consumers, as it will spur competitive pricing and more aggressive user interface progress.

So the early sales success of the Lumia 900 LTE may prove good news not only for Microsoft, Nokia, and AT&T -- but for consumers as well.

Sources: Amazon, AT&T



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No need for Cut the rope when you have Spider Jack
By Pirks on 4/17/2012 1:47:30 PM , Rating: 2
Jason have a look: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/55cb78f2-d1...

All this whining about missing first party apps and games doesn't mean anything when you have excellent other/similar apps.

And like I said to you in another thread here iToys and crapdrois don't have Tentacles, so why bother?




By InvertMe on 4/17/2012 2:06:03 PM , Rating: 2
I thought you were a iFan?? I'm confused.


RE: No need for Cut the rope when you have Spider Jack
By Pirks on 4/17/12, Rating: -1
By InvertMe on 4/17/2012 2:47:39 PM , Rating: 3
Ahh, I see (I think). See the problem is your posts are usually so full of crazy I don't bother. I bothered here and look where it got me - a screen full of crazy.


By Cheesew1z69 on 4/17/2012 3:25:10 PM , Rating: 2
You aren't kidding....mucho loco.


By The0ne on 4/17/2012 3:40:02 PM , Rating: 2
By your name you're new. If you had known for years like many of us do you do best to avoid anything by such members like Pirks, and most lately Reclaimer77 for his ignorance.


By Pirks on 4/17/2012 3:43:25 PM , Rating: 3
Somebody put Reclaimer in one boat with me? So gross.


By kleinma on 4/17/2012 4:04:11 PM , Rating: 5
I think Tony Swash takes the iFan crown....


By Pirks on 4/17/2012 4:47:09 PM , Rating: 2
Indeed, that's why I left the job of pwning wintrolls to him and retired. Just kicking sorry Motoman's ass once in a while, a tribute to old times :)))


By sprockkets on 4/17/2012 8:05:36 PM , Rating: 1
Dude you never pwned anyone, neither has Tony Swash. You both have a history of being in the red -1 all the time, not because you are necessarily wrong, but because you both post pointless sht.


By Pirks on 4/17/2012 8:57:44 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah right, like Motoman's posts about evil Apple religion is not pointless sht? You have to grow up man :)


By sprockkets on 4/17/2012 9:09:48 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Yeah right, like Motoman's posts about evil Apple religion is not pointless sht?


WTF? *That* can back that up with plenty of facts.

Nice try though. NOT.


By semiconshawn on 4/18/2012 8:22:39 AM , Rating: 2
Pwning wintrolls......Really? Are you 13? You cant kick anyones ass you know it I know it so does everyone else.. Thats why you "pwn wintrolls" closest you will ever get to kicking someones ass.


By Skywalker123 on 4/18/2012 1:18:49 AM , Rating: 2
Opposite sides of the same moron coin


By BillyBatson on 4/18/2012 3:51:05 AM , Rating: 2
^ lawls :)


By Skywalker123 on 4/18/2012 1:16:56 AM , Rating: 2
You need to "pwn" a brain


Games, games, games....
By GotThumbs on 4/17/2012 1:32:49 PM , Rating: 2
Personally, I couldn't care less about games on my phone. I didn't purchase it to be a toy. It's not a toy for my child, so even 1,000 apps would be fine...as long as they are business focused...that's all I NEED.

I do like the GPS capability of my Droid though. I haven't found a need/reason to buy a single app to date.




RE: Games, games, games....
By GotThumbs on 4/17/2012 1:34:15 PM , Rating: 2
And its called being thrifty. Why give away your money so easily? Only if its worth it to me.

Best wishes.


RE: Games, games, games....
By sprockkets on 4/17/2012 8:57:07 PM , Rating: 2
What about a GPS app that tells you more stuff :)


RE: Games, games, games....
By StanO360 on 4/20/2012 4:11:13 PM , Rating: 2
From what I read, the Nokia navigation is better than Google Maps (which is better than iOS). Though I've never used it. Google Maps, is definitely beta still, there are silly frustrations (just turn on the GPS for me when I launch Navigation!!).


Just a few critiques...
By rubbahbandman on 4/17/2012 5:10:27 PM , Rating: 2
First off I just want to say that I really like Windows phones for their excellent UI. Very polished, smooth, well optimized, great design.

Now my problem with the news on MS/Nokia's phone sales is simply that they are selling a massively discounted phone, so in my opinion anything less than completely selling out would make the launch a failure. I will find things a lot more impressive when their phone is priced evenly with the competition with a healthy profit margin and is still able to keep up in sales.

Right now, it's a bargain discount phone. Release a new iphone for free or for $100 and it will be sold out for months. Let's see if the folks at Nokia can eventually turn this into a premium phone that sells at a premium price.




RE: Just a few critiques...
By Pirks on 4/17/2012 5:28:10 PM , Rating: 2
This is exact same tactic MS tried and succeded with Xbox - massive losses first and profits later after enough market share is bought with a cheapo product. Should work just as well for Windows Phone I think.


RE: Just a few critiques...
By sprockkets on 4/17/2012 7:56:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Right now, it's a bargain discount phone. Release a new iphone for free or for $100 and it will be sold out for months. Let's see if the folks at Nokia can eventually turn this into a premium phone that sells at a premium price.


That's the problem. I'm not impressed that they sold out when the phone was sold for $0 for new subscribers and $100 for others.

The bulk of all iphone sales is the iphone4S. The outdated models for cheap are barely purchased. The current generation iphone has never, ever been discounted nor offered BOGO free. *And* it sold well even when it cost $600 under contract back in 2007.

They set the bar pretty high there. NO ONE comes close.


RE: Just a few critiques...
By acer905 on 4/18/2012 12:27:34 PM , Rating: 2
Here is the kicker though, how much does Apple sell the iPhone 4 for now that the 4s is out? $99. You can't really compare the Lumia 900 to the current iPhone because it uses an older, and therefore lower cost chipset. From what people who analyze the components are saying, even at the $99 on contract subsidized price, Nokia is actually making a profit on the phone. Just like Apple is still making a profit on sales of the 4.

There really isn't any smoke and mirrors, Nokia just managed to make a phone that physically costs less to build, yet still provides the experience that people want. And judging by the sales, it worked.


How do you see that it's sold out
By FATCamaro on 4/17/2012 12:39:42 PM , Rating: 2
Both web sites let me finish the order process without informing me that the item will be delayed.




RE: How do you see that it's sold out
By FATCamaro on 4/17/2012 1:13:10 PM , Rating: 2
It looks like the Cyan is backordered (8-9 days) and the black is not. I guess they didn't make many Cyan Lumia's.


By InvertMe on 4/17/2012 1:58:21 PM , Rating: 3
AT&T said the cyan was selling much more than expected.


Games
By dagamer34 on 4/17/2012 12:46:25 PM , Rating: 2
The reason why there aren't more ported games from iOS or Android is because there isn't any way to write unmanaged code in C++ and DirectX. This precludes using any libraries or game engines like Unreal Engine 3. However, I do expect this situation to be fixed in Windows Phone 8, so we should see far more games then.




RE: Games
By djdjohnson on 4/17/2012 1:02:14 PM , Rating: 2
Microsoft is letting select developers write native code, but it isn't happening much. If a major developer like Zynga wanted to write native apps, I'd bet MS would make it happen.


RE: Games
By JeBuSBrian on 4/17/2012 1:27:51 PM , Rating: 3
And yet a developer like Zynga hardly needs native functions for their shite games.


Great News
By datdamonfoo on 4/17/2012 12:29:24 PM , Rating: 2
This is great news, and hopefully this will spark more developers to come to the platform. I ordered my Lumia 900 Cyan one week ago from AT&T, and it finally shipped today, so there is definitely a high demand for these phones. It's exciting, although the negative articles that come out about Windows Phone are baseless and tactless.




RE: Great News
By StanO360 on 4/20/2012 4:13:04 PM , Rating: 2
Personally I think the Nokia ads are effective, they don't even discuss the operating system, just the interface. I mean it's marketing 101 sell the sizzle not the steak, but it's true.


Increased production
By InvertMe on 4/18/2012 1:11:37 PM , Rating: 2
Nokia just released a statement that they had to increase production to meet demand. Units keep selling out so demand is high!




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