quote: Sorry but you are in an extremely small minority of people who want or even need to make an actual phone call during a flight.
quote: I do not want some idiot gabbing away next to me in a place I have no way to get away from it.
quote: If they want to allow calls, then add a couple of sound proof phone booths people can go in to yack away in.
quote: Go ahead and name even a few reasons that an in-flight call would be so urgent and necessary that it warrants the potential to disrupt everyone around you who paid for a seat on that flight?
quote: How is this at all related to being a "technophobe" or "march of advancement"? You're just throwing out random words that don't even apply.
quote: You know, like, speaking and disrupting those around you.
quote: The very moment any airline allows in-flight calls I will go out of my way and pay extra to avoid them at all costs.
quote: Flights are hardly ever on time. If you're meeting up with someone or arranging transportation, there is a legitimate need.
quote: But you know what, I'm going to bypass your question entirely.
quote: A lot, actually. You make it seem like you'll have a heart attack if someone places a call within earshot of you. Are you my grandfather or something? Get with the times!
quote: It's funny you think everyone is as radical as you
quote: Plane was flying in a holding pattern due to bad weather. The hotel I intended to stay in has penalties for missing the cutoff time for check-in. I made a short call to the hotel (from a payphone near the galley areas of the cabin), informing them that I might miss the cutoff due to my flight possibly getting diverted.
quote: This is not a justification to make inflight calls.
quote: Why not take an earlier flight?
quote: We're not interested in listening to your sordid one night stand sex tales while you yammer away on your phone/mic.
quote: Classic Reclaimer77's "moving the goalpost" behavior for losing an argument.
quote: So you admit you had a legitimate need to make a call on a flight.
quote: Then you proceed to tell me I'm wrong entirely.
quote: How hypocritical can you get?
quote: Why didn't you?
quote: Or better yet, why didn't you pick a flight to somewhere with good weather, and take a taxi the rest of the way?
quote: I don't think that means what you think it does. Rejecting a false premise that would spiral the discussion into irrelevancy, is NOT "moving the goalposts".
quote: You're saying I screwed up because I couldn't foresee the weather at the destination going bad during the 5-10 hours while flying away from a persistent data connection. That was SIX YEARS AGO. Inflight WiFi was nothing but a pipe dream.
quote: Taking parts of my post out of context to attack me.
quote: Quit moving the goalposts, Reclaimer77.
quote: I've been 100% consistent
quote: me there's little difference in someone engaged in a conversation with another passenger, or someone talking on their phone. It's the same to my ears. And over the years I've learned to just tune out things that annoy me.
quote: Awww aren't you a special unique snowflake.It's funny you think everyone is as radical as you, and would choose to pay more just on the off-chance a cell phone might be within earshot. Oh the horror!
quote: I honestly cannot imagine how you do not see how much of a minority you are in right now.
quote: I actually just got back from driving a friend to the airport. Pretty average guy, and I asked him about this topic and his was response was an immediate and very firm answer of "that would be horrible if they allowed it"
quote: You don't think I'm aware of that? Ha! There's nothing inherently wrong with being in the minority on an issue.
quote: Wow cool story! You know what, I totally change my mind now. You and umm Mr Friend guy who conveniently were just discussing this have shown me the light.
quote: People are going to vote with their wallets, and Delta will reverse this decision. Just watch, I'm calling it right now.
quote: but yet you have no problem making everyone else's life a bit more miserable
quote: then you would have realized long before you posted that how unlikely it would be that they would change their minds due to that.
quote: I don't know that there's some established nation-wide majority on this issue. And neither do you.
quote: Do you really believe that's what I'm about here?
quote: Notice I didn't put a time limit on my prediction? If it takes 100 years, I'll still be right :)
quote: People have cellphones, people are going to want to use cellphones, lets move on.
quote: They typically do not use words like "clear majority" when the results are like 60/40
quote: Because you are citing ultra rare and uncommon reasons that a person might need to legitimately make a phone call mid-air as justification of degrading the quality of a flight for almost everyone onboard.
quote: Really? Falling back to the "you can't prove it won't happen" argument?
quote: So? People have guns and people want to use their guns, but that doesn't mean you should allow them into schools
quote: But ultra rare and uncommon? Right, cause bad weather never happens. And you never need to make travel arrangements or have delayed flights. LOL, you're hyperbole knows no bounds.
quote: Now who's citing off the wall crap. Yes compare this to something that can kill people...
quote: Now that I've wasted all day on this, let's just agree to disagree. Nobody is right, nobody is wrong. It's all opinion.
quote: First off I hardly fly much.
quote: Yeah go Delta! Fuck the First Amendment!!! WOOO HOOOO!!!
quote: That 99% of people you pulled out of your ass?
quote: You're Nazi's, it's as simple as that.
quote: How about we debate this like adults?
quote: The genie is out of the bottle, and he's not going back in.
quote: Fuck the First Amendment!!! WOOO HOOOO!!!
quote: I would think a corollary would be using cell phone on a bus or in a train car. Is that allowed? Is it destroying the "experience" for other passengers?
quote: I would think a corollary would be using cell phone on a bus or in a train car
quote: I been on several crowded buses where it would have been extremely impolite and rude to use a cellphone.
quote: If people use cell phones to increase the noise, or ignore what they should be listening to, then ban them.
quote: Now apparently we're entitled to quiet airline flights. I guess all my flights were on the non-entitlement airlines, because they were anything but quiet.
quote: How about you can use your phone, but if it's in an inappropriate manner the Air Marshall can shoot you in the face?
quote: quote:I been on several crowded buses where it would have been extremely impolite and rude to use a cellphone.Why?I think this social stigma that using a cellphone is rude and impolite in public fascinating. It's amazing how far we've come, but how far we still have to go.
quote: Now apparently we're entitled to quiet airline flights. I guess all my flights were on the non-entitlement airlines, because they were anything but quiet.I'm 36 years old, and it honestly doesn't bother me. But you all sound like some "get off my lawn" Mr. Wilson types!
quote: It illustrates how cynical and uptight our culture has become. EVERYTHING bothers us, everything is a major issue, we can't stand anything that isn't catering to us. We're entitled.