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Volkswagen's e-Golf will arrive on dealer lots in November

Volkswagen has announced official pricing for its upcoming e-Golf all-electric vehicle. The German automaker in mid-March announced its intentions to bring the vehicle to the United States during the fourth quarter of 2014.
 
The e-Golf will have a base price of $35,445, and that’s for a well-equipped SEL Premium trim vehicle. The e-Golf is powered by a 115hp, 199 lb-ft torque electric motor and a 24.2 kWh lithium-ion battery pack. The e-Golf features an onboard 7.2 kW charger, and also offers a standard Combined Charging System (CCS) which is capable of restoring the vehicle to an 80 percent charge in roughly 30 minutes.

 
Range for the vehicle is estimated to be between 70 to 90 miles depending on your driving style, which is a bit less than the 115 maximum range that was thrown around back in March.
 
VW also says that the e-Golf will come standard with all-LED lights (a first for a U.S. market VW).

 
The e-Golf is priced quite a bit higher than the class-leading Nissan Leaf ($28,980) and roughly in line with the slow-selling Ford Focus Electric ($35,170). The much smaller Fiat 500ewhich Fiat Chrysler Automobiles CEO Sergio Marchionne loathes — is priced at $31,800. All of these prices are of course before a $7,500 federal tax credit and any applicable state credits/rebates.
 
The VW e-Golf is set to go on sale in November.

Source: Volkswagen



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And again....
By mdogs444 on 8/25/2014 12:48:31 PM , Rating: 3
Another overpriced econobox that can hardly make it to the other side of the metro area and back. whats not to like?




RE: And again....
By hughlle on 8/25/2014 1:05:27 PM , Rating: 2
And a landrover cant get to london on 1 tank. I am no fan of current electronic vehicles, but come on man, it's called buying the right tool for the job. If you need a car with a bigger range, then buy one. If someone has the money, and the situation that makes 90 miles acceptable, then great. Silly to get worked up over something you're not even in the market to buy.


RE: And again....
By mdogs444 on 8/25/2014 1:06:34 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not worked up - I'm cracking a joke because I think these little econoboxes are a joke.

I'm not familiar with London, but my F150 can make it over 600 miles on a single tank.


RE: And again....
By ebakke on 8/25/2014 1:16:14 PM , Rating: 2
I (heart) the 36 gal tank.


RE: And again....
By mdogs444 on 8/25/14, Rating: 0
RE: And again....
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/25/2014 2:09:15 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, I definitely pay attention to fuel prices. My car has a 14.5 gallon tank and can go roughly 550 miles on a tank.

And since I do all my grocery shopping at Kroger, I rack up points which I use to get get $$$ of diesel at Kroger fuel stations (up to $1/gallon off max) or Shell stations (10c/gallon off max).


RE: And again....
By mdogs444 on 8/25/2014 4:00:28 PM , Rating: 2
Same thing here with Giant Eagle. We get $0.20/gal off in fuel perks for every $50.00 you spend in groceries. There is no limit. However, the groceries are so much more expensive than other places that its hardly worth it unless you're getting buy 1/get 1 sales, and the like.


RE: And again....
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/25/2014 4:15:02 PM , Rating: 2
At Kroger, it's 10c per $100 spent on groceries. However, they have 2x points on gift cards everyday (so a $100 gift card would get you 200 points or 20c off).

They're currently running a summer 4x gift card promotion, so I stock up on gift cards to restaurants, stores, etc that I shop at normally. So this week I got a a $100 Petsmart card (for the dog's grooming services) and a $100 Amazon card. That netted me 800 points or 80c off.

It also helps that Kroger is about the cheapest place in town for groceries.

Then I stack that with my Amex Everyday which gives 2x credit card rewards on grocery store purchases. Then when I buy the gas, I use the Chase Freedom card for 5x bonus credit card reward points on gas purchases (this quarter).

It's all about maximizing the rewards :-)


RE: And again....
By Spuke on 8/25/2014 4:51:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It's all about maximizing the rewards :-)
BAM! Using a Cap1 Quicksilver card myself. Wish we had a Krogers here.


RE: And again....
By Lord 666 on 8/25/2014 6:29:31 PM , Rating: 3
Welcome back.


RE: And again....
By slunkius on 8/26/2014 12:55:59 AM , Rating: 2
if you don't pay attention to gas prices, then "econobox" cars are not for you (duh).


RE: And again....
By Lord 666 on 8/26/2014 9:02:21 AM , Rating: 2
Going to say incorrect assumption. Speaking for myself, the pump price of fuel (more so diesel but gas too) is irrelevant because of microeconomics. Is an extra 0.50 a gallon going to take food off the table? No, so why bother worrying about it.

However, that doesn't mean to be wasteful. My family as a whole (household, siblings, mother) drive a lot. The TDI is on the road for the bulk of the miles while I drive the minivan to mass transit. In other words my household CAFE would be otherwise great expect for the gas guzzler.

Have to admit this e-tron Golf got my attention too for the mass transit role. The key thing is it looks exactly like a normal car. The range is too short and VW will have to wait a bit longer for my money until the TDI cross-over or diesel/electric ride comes.


RE: And again....
By Flunk on 8/25/2014 1:45:14 PM , Rating: 2
Not in London it wouldn't, at a average speed of about 5mph. You must not do much city driving but those big gas guzzlers gulp down gas when you're stuck in traffic.


RE: And again....
By mdogs444 on 8/25/2014 1:56:36 PM , Rating: 2
I live about 15 east of Cleveland. I rarely go to the city. Lots of country and highway driving.


RE: And again....
By Murloc on 8/25/2014 2:53:51 PM , Rating: 2
that's their point: you are not currently a target for EVs.

You don't like this kind of cars because you're an american living in the country, but in Europe the golf is considered a decent medium sized car and sedans and pick-ups are rare.

As for ICE-car range, in Europe there are gas stations everywhere so the shorter range of smaller cars that have a smaller tank is not a worry.


RE: And again....
By tayb on 8/25/2014 3:19:45 PM , Rating: 2
Eh, the average commute in the US is 25 minutes. This car has more than enough range for the vast majority of Americans. Probably not practical as the only vehicle but if a family has a long range vehicle it makes sense as the second vehicle.

Still think it is ugly but I imagine most married people are underestimating the usefulness.


RE: And again....
By Nutzo on 8/26/2014 4:14:52 PM , Rating: 2
Wrong.
Most people want to buy a car that will cover 100% of their driving, NOT something that will only cover 80%.

My normal commute is short enough that I could easily get 2 days on a single charge. However, what happens when I have to go pick up something at a store 30 miles away, or drop someone off at the airport? Even if I topped off the battery the night before, I still might have trouble getting home.

Having 2 cars is not always the best solution either. If I had a car like this for my commute, then we would have to take the wife's van for longer trips. Using double the gas on these longer trips would easily eat up any savings from owning an electric car.

I'll stick to with my Hybrid Camry that has a 600+ mile range on a tank, and a 2 minute refuel time.


RE: And again....
By hpglow on 8/26/2014 12:25:14 AM , Rating: 1
My '00 Jetta can make the same 600 miles on a 13 G tank. It's a decent sized car with a high curb weight (for a car). My Jeep can make the same trip with it's ~25G tank. And I get to do so without driving a pos F150 and getting worse gas mileage at the same time. Most of these cars are built with a gas tank to accommodate a 500 to 600 mile highway trip so you have no real point. No all electric vehicle is designed for the same type of use.

You don't want an economy car we get it. Just keep driving your small penis special.


RE: And again....
By FITCamaro on 8/26/2014 11:37:43 AM , Rating: 2
Because the only reason people drive pickups is the size of their junk.


RE: And again....
By mdogs444 on 8/26/2014 11:54:07 AM , Rating: 2
Its okay to be jealous because you drive a POS 14 year old car. F150 is #1 selling auto for a reason. Next time to see a VW Jetta poster on a bedroom wall, let me know....


RE: And again....
By tayb on 8/26/2014 1:12:49 PM , Rating: 2
Who the hell would be jealous of an F-150? It's a cheap truck with poor fuel economy.

The guy you are lambasting is probably laughing... all the way to the bank.


RE: And again....
By kmmatney on 8/25/2014 3:57:02 PM , Rating: 2
The problem is that there isn't much of a middle ground. You either get a 70-90 mile range, or you need to spend a huge amount of money on a Tesla. It would be nice to get a 130-150 mile range at a decent price.


RE: And again....
By Bill S. on 8/26/2014 7:57:34 AM , Rating: 2
To be fair, though, it's range versus price (not just range).

2014 VW Golf (2.5L base model) has a 14.5 gallon gas tank, and has mileage numbers of 23 City/30 Hwy/26 combined. Meaning it can get 320 to 420 miles out of a tank of gas (using 14 gallons, with 0.5 in reserve). It has a fair market value of $18,664, according to Kelly Blue Book. The 2015 model has limited info, but has an MSRP of $21,500.

Meanwhile, this car has a reported maximum range of 90 miles on batteries, roughly 21 to 28 percent the range of the gasoline powered Golf. Guessing that the 90 mile range is average (for city and highway driving), we'll go with the combined mileage figures for the gasoline powered Golf, and say it's a straight up 25% range for the e-Golf.

But with a price difference of nearly $17,000, how much are you "saving" by buying one of these? Where I live, gasoline is down ~$3.20/gallon right now, but I doubt you'd see too many of these sold in the Midwest. Rather, the urban drivers of the coastal cities are the more likely buyers (IMHO), who are seeing gasoline prices likely closer to $3.50/gallon (much more than that in California, probably).

Meaning that $3.50 gallon price, divided into a $17,000 price difference, means you can buy about 4,850 gallons of gasoline, to power the cheaper gasoline powered Golf. Or over 125,000 miles (combined mileage of 26mpg used). And that's before you drive ONE mile on the e-Golf.

This is the same argument used on the Chevy Volt when it came out, with its $40K price tag, and the sales numbers pretty much prove the point, with that vehicle. Everyone gushes about how nice it is, how wonderful a car, how economical....but in the end, they realize they can still get more car (and performance) for their money by going with a gasoline engine vehicle.


RE: And again....
By Murloc on 8/25/2014 1:08:07 PM , Rating: 2
a VW Golf in general is not really an econobox.


RE: And again....
By Spuke on 8/25/2014 3:45:48 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
a VW Golf in general is not really an econobox.
In the US, it's considered an economy car.


RE: And again....
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/25/2014 1:16:53 PM , Rating: 2
Depends on where you live. Nissan Leaf EVs litter the highways around the Raleigh/Durham/Cary area here in NC. And given the tech-centric nature of our area, most of the businesses have EV hookups for their employees.


RE: And again....
By Nutzo on 8/26/2014 4:19:23 PM , Rating: 2
So the companies are paying for the electricity to charge their cars?

That's about the only way I'd ever consider one, (free charging) as it's the only way it would ever be cost effective.


RE: And again....
By Spuke on 8/25/2014 1:30:20 PM , Rating: 2
Honestly, this probably the only one I'd buy in this price range but as a used car for much cheaper.


RE: And again....
By abzillah on 8/25/2014 2:22:31 PM , Rating: 2
70-90 Mile range is perfect for my life style!
I normally will use only 20-30 miles per day, and rarely will I drive more than 90 miles in one day.


RE: And again....
By FITCamaro on 8/26/2014 11:42:57 AM , Rating: 2
That's you. I'll be driving to Orlando this weekend for the holiday. 400 miles. And I drove to Cleveland earlier this year. Over 700 miles. I make 4-5 long trips a year. So I need a car that can do that. Even my commute is 50 miles round trip.

Now yes, eventually we could change to where I have a short range vehicle and my wife has the family long range one (since she'll stop working in a few years to raise the kids). But that still means spending extra money for a less capable car.


RE: And again....
By Reclaimer77 on 8/25/2014 2:59:23 PM , Rating: 1
$35k for this!? LMAO!!!


RE: And again....
By ilt24 on 8/25/2014 3:14:03 PM , Rating: 2
Don't worry reclaimer with the tax credit you help fund, the cost of the eGolf ends up being about the same as cost of an ICE Golf SEL.


RE: And again....
By Spuke on 8/25/2014 3:46:52 PM , Rating: 2
At least it looks like a car and not a loaf of bread that's been d%&ked by a sailor.


RE: And again....
By CharonPDX on 8/26/2014 2:16:10 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, but any city you can't make it to the other side and back on one charge (*cough*Phoenix*cough*) is nearly unlivable as it is - and owning an electric car won't make it any better.

And if you regularly drive over 40 miles each way for your commute - it's time to reconsider your work/life balance as it is. Again, NO vehicle will make THAT commute nice. (I say this as someone who once had a ridiculous commute, and know many people that do now. I honestly don't know how a friend who lives 70 miles from work tolerates it. He must hate his family.)

For the *VAST MAJORITY* of Americans, a 70-mile-range car can do their daily commute. (>90%, according to http://www.statisticbrain.com/commute-statistics ) Yes, for that 10%, "cheap" electric cars aren't appropriate. But likewise, for 10% of the population, a duallie pickup truck is equally useless. Not just "not the best choice", but *useless*.

But, just as there are people for whom a duallie pickup is the right choice, there are plenty of people a 70-mile-range electric car would be a good choice.


RE: And again....
By jrbales on 8/27/2014 1:52:30 AM , Rating: 2
I'm a VW fan, have driven them since 1990 and absolutely loved the Golf I had (majority have been Jettas though). However, the pricing on this, for a Golf, is obscene, electric or not. They already have TDI Golfs that would be at least $10k less, gets great mileage, excellent performance, and have proven diesel technology. I suspect this will not be a big seller except for maybe VW fans with deep pockets.


By ssnova703 on 8/25/2014 1:30:59 PM , Rating: 3

I agree with many others, that having only electric is just not ready yet. 70mile cruising range in probably best case scenario is probably ok for local commute, but out of the question for traveling long distance/using this vehicle as your only car in the U.S.

I wish it had a small diesel or even gasoline engine to supplement the electric drive system.

Last note, the Mk7 golf is an impressive handling(quite composed and sporty) vehicle with good utility. I'd say it's a great platform, in a practical sense, I'd say the Golf-E gives the Tesla a run in performance and price, but of course it's "uglier" as it's a hatch style vs coupe, but whatever, to each their own.




By FITCamaro on 8/25/2014 2:13:17 PM , Rating: 2
Lol. How do you figure that the electric Golf will be able to give the Model S a run for its money in terms of performance?


By Spuke on 8/25/2014 3:49:13 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, please explain how 115hp car compares in performance to a 400hp one.


By ssnova703 on 8/25/2014 5:20:32 PM , Rating: 2
Not 0-60, just it's no slouch in terms of handling, compared to say... the Nissan Leaf. I'm speaking of what's out on the market for mass produced all-electric, we only have but a few choices:

i-miev
tesla(among their models)
leaf

In comparison with what's out there, yeah, sure I'd still stand by saying the golf handles well compared to the competition.

I also implied the functionality and practicality of a hatchback compared to a coupe. So let me clarify, no the e-Golf is no sports car. However, in the end, much of the same, electric cars still lack range.


DC not AC
By SublimeSimplicity on 8/25/2014 1:03:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The e-Golf features an onboard 7.2 kW charger, which is capable of restoring the vehicle to an 80 percent charge in roughly 30 minutes.


A 7.2 kW charger would restore 80% of charge in roughly 2.5 hours. I likely also has a CSS DC charging port that can accept a 50kW charge.




I would get one
By Dug on 8/25/2014 4:57:22 PM , Rating: 2
For me it almost pencils out to get one.
Avg $2700 a year in gas, so this would make sense if it was around $25k
I guess at $31k after taxes is not bad considering the TDI avg is $27k




Start using 40kWh packs
By flyingpants1 on 8/25/2014 6:33:29 PM , Rating: 2
Start using 40kWh packs like in the RAV4 EV.

The Mercedes B-Class EV has a 36kWh battery pack. We're not that far off.

I'd love to see an all-electric Altima or Corvette etc..




By lagomorpha on 8/26/2014 3:06:24 AM , Rating: 2
e-Rabbit was already taken by another product wasn't it?




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