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Virgin Galactic's baby  (Source: Virgin Galactic)

Galactic Girl  (Source: Virgin Galactic)
Virgin Galactic aims big with its White Knight Two

Virgin Galactic is now giving the public a first glimpse of the WhiteKnightTwo spaceship carrier that will be responsible for ferrying the SpaceShipTwo spacecraft into orbit.

During an event at the Mojave Air Space Port, White Knight Two designer Burt Rutan, British entrepreneur and Virgin Galactic CEO Richard Branson, and Apollo astronaut Buzz Aldrin, along with thousands of spectators and media, were on hand to publicly view the new craft.

“WhiteKnightTwo represents the apogee of the application of carbon composites to aerospace and all of us at Scaled are tremendously excited at the capabilities of the Mothership for SpaceShipTwo," Branson said during the event. "I believe the vehicle will be developed and sold for a variety of launch applications beyond the initial requirements of our launch customer, Virgin Galactic. We have set up a new business jointly with Virgin, The Spaceship Company (TSC), to develop these vehicles and we very much hope that its efficiency will herald a wake up call to the aerospace industry and the necessity of using new materials and technologies in the future. “

White Knight Two, called Eve to pay respect to Branson's mother, has an impressive wing span of 140 feet, and is a twin-boom aircraft that will one day transport the SpaceShipTwo up to 48,000 feet in altitude.  

It can fly coast to coast across the United States nonstop while powered by four Pratt and Whitney PW308A engines.  Fuel capacity allows it to launch four daily spaceflights or to ferry the SpaceShipTwo across the United States once.

To help with fuel efficiency, the entire craft is made of carbon fiber composite, except for the landing gear and engines.  Branson and company hope the new spacecraft helps launch a new era of private, environmentally friendly space travel.  

Along with the space port in New Mexico, Virgin Galactic has plans for launch sites in Sweden, Spain and somewhere in Asia.

The suborbital flight will have a max of 2 or 3Gs rather than 5Gs, so older flyers or disabled people will be able to go on the trip.

Space tourism has grown in popularity the past several years, with a select few private companies trying to take space tourism to the next level.  Today's public unveiling is four years after the SpaceShipOne became the first ever private rocket to reach space.  SpaceShipOne helped win the Ansari X Prize in 2004, with the research team receiving $10 million prize.

Even though a date for the company's first launch has not been set, at least 250 customers have paid the $200,000 fee or put a deposit down to fly on the maiden trip, Virgin Galactic said.  Each SpaceShipTwo will be able to take up to six passengers per flight.



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NASA to become largest customer?
By Sylar on 7/28/2008 11:50:49 PM , Rating: 1
Now that the remaining shuttles are to be decommissioned in 2010 and with no replacement in sight, I imagine NASA will have all of the flights booked through 2020.




By Odysseus145 on 7/29/2008 12:32:32 AM , Rating: 3
It'll be a long time before a private company can produce anything like a space shuttle.


RE: NASA to become largest customer?
By Calin on 7/29/2008 2:25:00 AM , Rating: 2
You're not understanding this - the goal of the Space Ship Two is to bring a somewhat comfortable trip to the space (above 100,000 feet or 30 or so kilometers, when the sky becomes black instead of blue, and you can see the stars in daylight. Also, there should be a great view of Mother Earth.
However, the Space Ship Two won't be able to reach orbit (even if it reaches those altitudes, it will fly too slow and will "fall back" to Earth). As for replacement for the Space Shuttle... dream on. The Space Shuttle has (I think) enough cargo capacity to bring the Space Ship Two to space. The Space Shuttle is able to reach high orbits, maybe even geosynchronous orbits. The Space Shuttle can bring back from space important payloads (I don't really see the utility of this based on the high cost of missions, but anyway, the capability exists).

Space Ship Two is for space flight what swimming was for the exploration of oceans. While with a certain element of fun, and certainly usable in oceans, totally unusable for even the smallest possible ocean exploration tasks.


RE: NASA to become largest customer?
By marsbound2024 on 7/29/2008 7:09:41 AM , Rating: 2
Hmmm, I myself picked up on his comments as satire. But then I do take for granted this common knowledge that you just shared.


RE: NASA to become largest customer?
By tmouse on 7/29/2008 9:22:42 AM , Rating: 2
A lot of Syalr's comments are often taken too literally.


RE: NASA to become largest customer?
By masher2 (blog) on 7/29/2008 12:45:25 PM , Rating: 2
> "The Space Shuttle is able to reach high orbits, maybe even geosynchronous orbits."

Given an initial mission to launch a refueling tank, the space shuttle is able to make a lunar return trip.


By pauldovi on 7/29/2008 10:01:50 PM , Rating: 2
Nonsense. The Space Shuttle would require 4 SRB's to leave the Earth's atmosphere. How about logistics (air, food, water) as well as communication equipment that is not suited for a lunar orbit?


Better names
By zpdixon on 7/29/2008 1:08:49 AM , Rating: 3
I think they should rename the ships like this:
* WhiteKnightTwo -> WhiteHorseTwo
* SpaceShipTwo -> WhiteKnightTwo
Since the first carries the second... :)




RE: Better names
By theflux on 7/29/2008 1:33:12 AM , Rating: 5
WhiteMan -> CantJump


RE: Better names
By FITCamaro on 7/29/2008 9:49:12 AM , Rating: 1
* WhiteKnightTwo -> MiddleClassAndWealthy
* SpaceShipTwo -> WelfareRecipients

It applies doesn't it?


RE: Better names
By danrien on 7/29/2008 10:01:37 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
* WhiteKnightTwo -> MiddleClassAndWealthy * SpaceShipTwo -> WelfareRecipients It applies doesn't it?


Errr.... do you mean the other way around? Unless I'm misunderstanding your post, the whiteknighttwo is cheaper to ride on than spaceshiptwo


RE: Better names
By masher2 (blog) on 7/29/2008 10:49:16 AM , Rating: 2
I think he was intending to suggest the Middle Class carries the load of the Welfare recipients.


RE: Better names
By Jellodyne on 7/30/2008 2:46:40 PM , Rating: 2
No, its totally irrelevent to the topic at hand.


another revolution
By ikkeman2 on 7/29/2008 2:09:38 AM , Rating: 2
I know Rutan and Scaled are responsible for breaking many of the conventional wisdoms in aeronautical design. But I think this one is to far out of the box...

I think one of the most appealing things about aviation is our shared adherence to the universal law: Ïf it looks good, It flies good".
Not that it has to be true, but is you're spending a bucketload of money to get some of the best engineers to work on a pinnacle of modern technology, put in just that little bit of extra effort.
If not for the sake of aerodynamics, than do it to improve the world. This thing is going to be in the public eye a long time, and I hate for spaciation (?) to get started by this eye sore.
Thank god WKI looked better.




RE: another revolution
By aeroxander on 7/29/2008 8:18:20 AM , Rating: 2
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder....

To me, Scaled composites designs have always been beautiful.


RE: another revolution
By aeroxander on 7/29/2008 8:20:27 AM , Rating: 2
My only question is how the controls work with two separate cockpits. I mean I know how they work, but what is the design philosophy behind it.


RE: another revolution
By ikkeman2 on 7/29/2008 9:25:37 AM , Rating: 2
only one side is a cockpit, the other is for the less fortunate, able to pay only considerably less than the $200000.- (AFAIK) spacepricetag

and also - all (commercial) jetliners have a double control layout... the co-pilot can do everything the PIC does (except napping). doesn't regularly lead to trouble...


RE: another revolution
By aeroxander on 7/29/2008 11:47:43 AM , Rating: 2
Yah I know that, was more just wondering about what you explained, i.e. its not two cockpits.


RE: another revolution
By foolsgambit11 on 7/29/2008 2:15:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
spaciation (?)

Hmm... Astronautics? Is that the word you're looking for?

And either way, is it really uglier than this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wrightflyer.jpg


Amazing
By pauldovi on 7/28/2008 10:44:04 PM , Rating: 2
As a aviation fanatic I have to say this *perks* me up.




RE: Amazing
By Ringold on 7/28/2008 11:15:42 PM , Rating: 2
I just wish this would get rolled out:

http://www.moller.com/skycar.htm

Looking at their news, they aren't completely dead, but I'm not holding my breath, either. If they had a glass-panel, IFR-certified model ready to go, I'd be out seeking an advance on the sale of my first born son tomorrow so I could get on the list.


RE: Amazing
By Jellodyne on 7/30/2008 2:45:30 PM , Rating: 2
No, Moller just needs some more investmet capital. For spending, I mean, I'm sure he has no plans to ever roll out the skycars. Seeing as they've made zero progress since they were previewed in PopSci magazine in the 80s.


Well well...
By FliGuyRyan on 7/28/2008 11:37:22 PM , Rating: 2
I think bankruptcy is worth it for this ;-)

Hmmm... food stamps courtesy of Uncle Sam.




RE: Well well...
By noxipoo on 7/29/2008 10:50:17 AM , Rating: 2
if it drops to like $20k, i'd start saving for a couple of years to go on one. eating ramen for a long time is worth going to space!


Fleece 'em while their hot!
By peldor on 7/29/2008 9:37:28 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
at least 250 customers have paid the $200,000 fee or put a deposit down to fly on the maiden trip, Virgin Galactic said. Each SpaceShipTwo will be able to take up to six passengers per flight.

That's a lot of people who do not understand the concept of the 'maiden trip'. Doubly funny that it's on Virgin Galactic.




Impressive...
By JonnyDough on 7/30/2008 7:37:38 AM , Rating: 2
but can it play...

Charlie Branson's Harem in the Sky?

And you thought I was going to say "Crysis."




EnvironMENTALLY friendly space travel
By phxfreddy on 7/28/08, Rating: -1
By Diesel Donkey on 7/28/2008 11:28:35 PM , Rating: 3
Perhaps it should read "environmentally friendlier"


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