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Plans start at $40/month per smartphone for unlimited voice/text plus $50 for shared data

AT&T and Verizon Wireless have been talking up the idea of shared data family plans for months. Today, however, Verizon Wireless is finally taking the step of announcing its plans to the public.
 
Under the Share Everything Plan, owners of basic feature phones will pay a base "Monthly Line Access" rate of $30/month per device while smartphone users will pay $40/month per device. Adding USB wireless modems, notebooks, or netbooks will run you $20/month per device and adding a tablet will cost you just $10/month per device. From there, customers can add a minimum of 1GB of shared data between devices for an additional $50/month. The Share Everything Plan tops out at $100 for 10GB of shared data.
 
Under the Share Everything Plan, all lines have unlimited minutes and unlimited texting (standard/picture/video). So for a family that has three smartphones and wants to share 6GB of data, the total monthly service charges would be $200 ($40 access fee per smartphone and $80 for shared data) before any taxes and additional service charges.

 
"When developing these plans, we first asked customers what they wanted in a wireless service plan.  We also looked at the technology and how customers were using it to manage their lives.  And last, we took into consideration the evolution of the technology and how customers would use wireless in the future," Erwin added.  "Share Everything Plans are the outcome of that research.  They cover every device Verizon Wireless offers, from basic phones to smartphones, from tablets to Jetpacks and more.  Share Everything Plans represent a tremendous shift in how customers think about wireless service."  
 
The new Share Everything Plan from Verizon Wireless will be available starting June 28.


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My thoughts
By FITCamaro on 6/12/2012 8:59:10 AM , Rating: 5
The base costs per devices aren't bad. But $50 for 1GB of data to share amongst devices? That's a bit ridiculous. Why should data be drastically more expensive just because its shared?




RE: My thoughts
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 9:54:19 AM , Rating: 2
Think of it this way. 3 data plans for $29.99/mo and getting 2GB each = about $90. The 6GB plan is $60. A savings of $30/mo. And it is shared too, allowing a potentially lower data tier.


RE: My thoughts
By Drag0nFire on 6/12/2012 10:02:49 AM , Rating: 5
I think you're not including the cost of attaching phones to the account.

Old: 3 data plans for $30/mo + 3 phones for $10/mo = $120.
New: 1 data plan for $60/mo + 3 phones for $30/mo = $150.

VZW is screwing over its users by charging for both tiered data and per device.

Seems to me if I buy 1Gb of data, I should be able to share it across any number of devices for a nominal fee; if I buy unlimited data, then I should pay per device.


RE: My thoughts
By bluesfan46 on 6/12/2012 11:06:22 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Under the Share Everything Plan, all lines have unlimited minutes and unlimited texting (standard/picture/video).


Your old plan cost doesn't include actual phone usage. So the new plan would be cheaper...


RE: My thoughts
By othercents on 6/12/2012 4:55:30 PM , Rating: 2
Correct... Unlimited Text and Talk is $89.99.

It might be cheaper to go with individual plans, or maybe they will offer a 1000 minute plan with lower per phone cost. Data should be able to be shared similar to minutes without a $40 per phone premium.


RE: My thoughts
By FITCamaro on 6/12/2012 12:35:45 PM , Rating: 2
For smart phones the latter number would be $180/month since those are $40/month each.


RE: My thoughts
By wempa on 6/12/2012 1:11:55 PM , Rating: 2
Not to mention that the old plan gives you a total of 6GB of data, 2 GB per phone. The new plan gives you a 2GB total that is shared. Wow, what a bargain !!! </sarcasm>


RE: My thoughts
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 1:35:20 PM , Rating: 2
No, all of those old charges go away when you move to this new plan. You pay per device ($40 smartphone, $30 feature phone, $20 aircard, $10 tablet) and you pay for your data pool ($50 for 1GB, $60 for 2GB and an additional $10 for every 2GB after that). And that is all you pay. The voice devices get unlimited voice and text and there are no separate data charges for the tablets or aircards.


RE: My thoughts
By wempa on 6/12/2012 1:08:33 PM , Rating: 2
That's exactly what I was thinking. Starting 1GB at $50 ??? If 2GB for a single device is $30, that's $15 per GB. So, it's more than 3 times that cost just to share it. WTF ???


RE: My thoughts
By Trisped on 6/12/2012 1:22:55 PM , Rating: 2
But you get 10GB for $100, which is $10/GB.
That would mean there is a break even point, plus you get the benefit of shared data between phones.

I was hoping when these plans came out I would be able to downgrade my contract. I use about 20 minutes a month, and about 40 texts. This plan is obviously not for me, or my friends/family.


RE: My thoughts
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 1:38:33 PM , Rating: 2
About the only way for this not to be a good deal is if you have two smartphones and you currently have no text plans and have the lowest number of minutes. You would end up paying more and getting unlimited voice and text which you might not use. If you already talk and text a lot this is an excellent deal.

Oh, and if you are using 15GB a month and you still have an unlimited plan. Cling to that if you want, but device replacement will be expensive.


RE: My thoughts
By FITCamaro on 6/12/2012 10:24:23 PM , Rating: 2
Doing the math for my parents plan, its possibly cheaper.

2 smartphones + 1 feature phone = $110. Plus they'd need at least 4GB of data. $180. They also have an air card. $200.

Taxes and fees in Florida are about 30%. So that makes about $260. Their last bill was almost $300. But their bill also seems to fluctuate a bit (my brother who's still on their plan probably goes over or buys things sometimes).

But currently they also have 4GB/mo per phone and 2GB for the air card.


Can someone please explain this to me
By phatboye on 6/12/2012 9:03:30 AM , Rating: 2
Can someone please explain this to me, the math doesn't make sense. I don't see how this is any different than before where I had to pay $10 extra per line for talk+text and $30 extra per line for data for a total of $40. Now with the new plan $40 gets the same thing. OK unlimited minutes is kind of nice but my family never goes over minutes, it's the data we were worried about.




RE: Can someone please explain this to me
By viewwin on 6/12/2012 9:11:46 AM , Rating: 2
Same here, except I am on AT&T. I hope there dataplans come in cheaper than this. If not, I have no reason to switch.


RE: Can someone please explain this to me
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 9:51:10 AM , Rating: 2
It is WAY cheaper.
For example - lets take an account with 3 smartphones (all with unlimited voice, 2GB data, and a $10 text feature) and a single tablet (with a 3GB data plan).

Right now the cost of that before taxes and discounts is $305/mo.
The new plan provides all of the same voice, moves to unlimited text, and gets 1 extra GB for only $230. That is a pretty decent savings - about $75/mo. Plus, data overages are less likely since it is pooled.

The biggest savings involve having more smartphones and tablets. Although three feature phones with unlimited talk and text will only be $90. That is a big savings too.


RE: Can someone please explain this to me
By cknobman on 6/12/2012 10:43:41 AM , Rating: 3
The way I figured it:
4 smartphones @ $40 = $160 +
1 10GB Shared data @ $100 = 260 pre taxes and "fees".

Currently I am on Sprint with unlimited data & 4 Android smartphones. Final bill after all taxes and "fees" $210.

Thanks Verizon for making it clear there is absolutely no reason to switch to your services.

FYI I live in an area with 4G and will be a "first" market for LTE in less than 2 months so while Verizon may be "faster" it isnt fast enough to justify that price.


By cigar3tte on 6/12/2012 11:40:52 AM , Rating: 2
These prices are for comparing with current Verizon plans, not for vs Sprint or T-Mobile. Verizon will never be cheaper than Sprint or T-Mobile. Verizon works almost everywhere for me, and T-Mobile didn't. It's the customers' choice whether they want to pay more for better connectivity.


RE: Can someone please explain this to me
By Labotomizer on 6/12/2012 12:06:02 PM , Rating: 2
You need to factor in the tethering fee at $30/month. Perhaps you don't pay that now but it's still a service you're getting on Verizon with this plan. So that's another $120/month. Who would be "cheaper" now?


RE: Can someone please explain this to me
By cknobman on 6/12/2012 12:33:57 PM , Rating: 3
Oh I factor in tethering alright. Since I have Android phones a simple app enables "tethering" for free.

And Sprints unlimited really is unlimited. During Grand Slams I stream tennis via 4g all week and they never say a thing. I used 5GB on my line alone for 1 week during the French Open.


RE: Can someone please explain this to me
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 1:51:13 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, it is Sprint.

Their network is horribly overloaded now. Their Wimax can't even beat their competitor's 3G in most metros now. Seriously, unless price is your #1, #2, and #3 concern, stay away from them. Sprint has lost billions every quarter for about six years. They don't even own/operate their network anymore - Ericsson does. I would really be surprised if Sprint doesn't go under by this time next year. They committed to buying untold billions of dollars in iPhones, but they won't have an LTE network to sell along with it when iPhone5 comes out this fall.


By Black1969ta on 6/13/2012 3:26:36 PM , Rating: 2
Sprint is turning on LTE for several markets this summer, Kansas City being one of them. Sprint is leasing the Verizon network in many markets.


By Trisped on 6/12/2012 1:42:16 PM , Rating: 2
You forgot the $50 for 1GB of data on the new shared plan and the cost for talk/text on the old plan.

The math only works in your favor if you talk/text a lot and you either have unbalanced data usage (everyone uses data, but most of it is used by one handset) or you use a lot of data.


Represents what customers want?
By mevans336 on 6/12/2012 8:56:04 AM , Rating: 5
It represents what is best for Verizon's bottom line. The future isn't restrictive data limits with $15/GB overages with unlimited voice and texting.

Using their calculator, it looks like to save money, you'll need to have at least 3 phones with very little data usage (500MB or less) per month.

As a 2 phone family plan holder on the 700 minute, unlimited text package, with two data plans I already pay $160 a month. My choices are their 2GB family share which will save me $10 a month but potentially penalize me $15 if I go over that 2GB, or choose the 4GB plan and pay the same amount I am paying now, but lose 2GB of data from my current plan.




RE: Represents what customers want?
By mevans336 on 6/12/2012 8:57:41 AM , Rating: 2
Here is the link to their calculator: www.verizonwireless.com/ShareEverything


RE: Represents what customers want?
By Syran on 6/12/2012 8:57:08 AM , Rating: 3
Here is the actual link for the calculator: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/shareEve...


RE: Represents what customers want?
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 9:26:56 AM , Rating: 2
I was about to get all pissy too.

However, I ran my account through it and the price is essentially the same but I get unlimited voice/text on all of my devices and the total number of GB go from 5 to 8. So I actually get MORE with the new plan. Wasn't expecting that.


RE: Represents what customers want?
By Syran on 6/12/2012 10:04:56 AM , Rating: 2
I think the thing here is, if you are a family, and you don't have grandfathered unlimited data access, OR use very little data, it's generally a pretty good plan. Its also much cheaper iirc, then the old unlimited minutes/texts + data plan. Its just not for us yet, we'll probably end up on it in 2 years time as phones come up for upgrades again.


By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 10:13:59 AM , Rating: 2
It certainly makes it a lot easier to add a tablet or convert a feature phone to a smartphone. I think that is the main focus they are trying to make. Lower the costs, but move a lot of consumers into buying more lines and increasing the mix of smartphones. Should be interesting if AT&T exactly matches the pricing tiers or goes with something that is similar, but favors a different mix of service and devices.


RE: Represents what customers want?
By Labotomizer on 6/12/2012 11:02:37 AM , Rating: 2
Based on what I actually use this plan is a wash for me. It's almost the exact same price as I pay now except I get unlimited minutes. My wife doesn't use much data, maybe 500MB/month on the high side. So for 2 people the 6GB plan gives me over 5GB of data. Not a bad deal at all but not really saving any money.

However when my daughter gets a smartphone sometime next year? I would only be looking at her access charge as it's unlikely I'd have to increase data. At that point it becomes a much better deal. If you're a family of 4 or 5? The savings could really stack up. Plus, this includes tethering, which is normally an extra $30 per phone. If you count that into the mix it really saves some money.

Also, their old plans aren't going away. So if you're a single line on Verizon then you'd keep using it. No big loss. The only thing going away is unlimited on contract renewals. If you have a single line you can buy an unsubsidized device and keep your unlimited data.


By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 1:45:38 PM , Rating: 2
Well, it gives you a lot more data and now you can talk and text all you want without caring about usage.

Oh, and I just checked their website. You can have TEN devices sharing this pool. With the cost of adding a tablet at $10, I see a huge push toward adding them in the future. Why settle for Wifi-only if you can get one that runs on LTE and just use it occasionally on their network?


Price Hike depending on use
By orgy08 on 6/12/2012 8:54:49 AM , Rating: 2
A share plan with 4 smartphone(700 mins and unlimited text), 2gb per phone is 8gb of data. Total cost, $240 plus tax.

Shared 8gb with unlimited talk and text, $250, a $10 hike. However, since tethering is included, it might save you some money by getting the 10gb share plan and tethering any laptops/tablets instead of paying for decide access (plus cheaper then the 3g versions of tablets).




RE: Price Hike depending on use
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 10:01:25 AM , Rating: 1
You would also jump from four lines sharing 700 minutes to unlimited talk. Pretty big jump. If you would use it, make the change.


RE: Price Hike depending on use
By orgy08 on 6/12/2012 10:10:31 AM , Rating: 2
Except between our current 4 lines, we use no more then 200 minutes a month. So really, for $10 monthly hike, we get tethering on all our phones, which will make our tablets more useful on the road.


RE: Price Hike depending on use
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 4:37:42 PM , Rating: 2
Yep. The new plan is great if you have use for unlimited voice/text. If you don't have those needs, it isn't that of a great unless you have lots of data devices and don't use a ton of data.


RE: Price Hike depending on use
By theapparition on 6/12/2012 10:44:53 AM , Rating: 2
Who say's tethering is included? I didn't see that listed anywhere.

I'd appreciate some clarification on that.


RE: Price Hike depending on use
By orgy08 on 6/12/2012 10:49:31 AM , Rating: 2
On their main page.

"Mobile Hotspot is included at no additional cost for capable smartphones and tablets. Turn your device into a personal mobile hotspot and share your connection and your plan's allowance with multiple WiFi-enabled devices"

http://www.verizonwireless.com/ShareEverything


This SUCKS
By kamk44 on 6/12/2012 4:11:21 PM , Rating: 2
My current cost (excluding taxes etc) for 5 basic phones, 700 minutes (use less), no text or data is:

70 for 1st phone + $10 each for 4 additional = $110
(would be $30x5 = $150 under the new pricing)

My wife wants a smart phone. Under current pricing 2GB of data = $30. I would probably get one too and the other phones would stay basic (for our parents). That means:

$70+$30 for 1st phone + $10+$30 for 2nd phone + $10x3 for the basic phones = $170
New pricing: $40x2 + $30x3 = $170 just for the phones...then $70 for 4GB of data = $240

That is an increase of over 40%!!! They are charging too much per phone plus uping the data costs. Our phones are not eligible for an upgrade until after 6/28. I've been with Verizon since the old Bell Atlantic Mobile days but I certainly don't want to pay almost a grand more per year. I'll have to check out other carriers.




RE: This SUCKS
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 4:40:46 PM , Rating: 2
The new plans aren't required. You can stick to your old one if you want.

The only real change is that starting 6/28 - if you buy subsidized equipment you can't stay on an old unlimited plan. They make you move to metered or shared data.


RE: This SUCKS
By kamk44 on 6/13/2012 4:24:33 PM , Rating: 2
Read my post. I want to switch two phones to smartphones. If I do so then they will put me on the new pricing scam unless I pay full price for the phones (not sure even then if I can keep my current plan since I would need to modify it by adding data plans). Either way I am hosed.


RE: This SUCKS
By kamk44 on 6/13/2012 4:49:48 PM , Rating: 2
Yesterday I read an article on another site (apparently not as good) that said you will not be able to keep your "current plan" and get a subsidized phone. I guess it should have been "current unlimited plan." so I should be okay. I still think the new pricing sucks and is an obvious money grab by Verizon against current unlimited and new customers.


T-mobile?
By elderwilson on 6/12/2012 9:48:41 AM , Rating: 2
I know people like to hound on T-mobile, but I still can't find a better deal around. For $86 a month I get 2gb data and unlimited voice and text for two smartphones.




RE: T-mobile?
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 9:59:02 AM , Rating: 2
That is an amazing deal. Stick with it if T-Mobile works where you need it to.


RE: T-mobile?
By vincentxweb on 6/13/2012 10:52:58 PM , Rating: 2
I know Sprint's network is overloaded at the moment, but I have great Wimax where I live and I'm paying $80 for unlimited mobile to mobile (any carrier), and night/weekends begin at 7pm to call land lines (for me, this is in effect unlimited voice). I get unlimited text, and unlimited data on Wimax (6-8Mbps where I live). For a lot of people, Sprint data speeds are unacceptable, but it depends on where you are.


Something's Rotten in the Phone Market
By DaveLessnau on 6/12/2012 9:42:52 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
So for a family that has three smartphones and wants to share 6GB of data, the total monthly service charges would be $200 ($40 access fee per smartphone and $80 for shared data) before any taxes and additional service charges.


In our case, taxes and fees add an additional 20% to our phone bill. So, in that example, the monthly cost would be $240. First of all, that 20% for taxes and such is obscene. Second, who are these people who can afford to pay $240 each month for phones? Someone has to be paying these ridiculous amounts (a lot of someones), otherwise the price would drop. But who? That kind of money approaches a monthly food bill.




By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 9:57:22 AM , Rating: 2
I get a pretty good discount and my bill (for four devices!) is about $150/mo. Now I don't have cable TV, but a lot of people spend over $150/mo just to have a bunch of channels that they don't watch. It is a free country, spend your money on the things you use. People are using their smartphones more than ever. Might as well get the best service on them.


lube?
By kleinma on 6/12/2012 10:00:17 AM , Rating: 2
Do these data plans come with lube since verizon is screwing anyone who gets these plans?

2GB single plan = $30
2x2GB Single Plan = $60
4GB Shared Plan = $70

A 10 dollar surcharge just to be able to share the data? Sounds like a deal!

With 4G and more and more bandwidth being needed, I think I am going to just have to buy phones at full retail going forward, and keep my unlimited data plan.




RE: lube?
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 10:08:15 AM , Rating: 2
You don't pay the $30/mo individual data charges anymore, just the pooled data tier.

2 smartphone data charges go from $60 for 4GB to $70.
3 smartphone data charges go from $90 for 6GB to $80.
4 smartphone data charges go from $120 for 8GB to $90.

They are clearly pushing for accounts to move more devices to smartphones. Heck, I might get my dad one. He would have minimal usage so I wouldn't even need to up the data plan.


As Usual A $$@$ing Rip-Off
By Arsynic on 6/12/2012 10:00:55 AM , Rating: 2
Using their calculator they "suggest" that I get the 4 GB plan even though my wife uses less than 150 MB per month and I use less than 1 GB per month because I connect to Wifi at work and home.

As usual, this plan is better for Verizon than it is for the consumer.




RE: As Usual A $$@$ing Rip-Off
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 10:10:41 AM , Rating: 2
Then get the 2GB plan. I'm sure Verizon is the first company to suggest you buy more than you need.


Jetpacks?
By kleinma on 6/12/2012 10:02:57 AM , Rating: 2
I am sure it is just a name for some stupid cellular device, but it is pretty funny to see "jetpacks" in the list of devices you can get data on. I think I will stop by my Verizon store today and get myself a jetpack!




RE: Jetpacks?
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 1:57:12 PM , Rating: 2
A Jetpack is the new name for a MiFi, which itself was a new name for a mobile hotspot.

I don't really see the need for them anymore. They are throwing mobile hotspot in for free with smartphones and with LTE the phone can still operate normally while sharing the LTE data connection. Why pay for another device ($20/mo) when they all pull from the same pool? Maybe they should drop the Jetpack/Mifi price down to $10 to be the same as the tablet.


Corp Discount
By mherlund on 6/12/2012 11:39:51 AM , Rating: 2
I wonder how a corporate discount would apply to this. Would it only be off the first phone, so off $40 (assuming a smart phone) or off the whole total???




RE: Corp Discount
By mcnabney on 6/12/2012 1:59:02 PM , Rating: 2
I believe it will impact the device prices AND the data price - make the business discount even better! (yeah for me)


By voodoobunny on 6/12/2012 12:00:07 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously, Verizon, are you trying to drive me back to simple phones?

The more complicated the plans get, the more I wonder whether I really need a smartphone, and I bet I'm not alone.

If someone came up with an "offline" mode for smartphones, where you could post status updates/pictures/stuff to Facebooks etc and it would just hold them until you were on a wi-fi network, I bet a lot of people would drop their data plans completely.




By Denithor on 6/12/2012 1:47:30 PM , Rating: 2
Except none of the carriers will allow you to activate a smartphone without a data package.


ripoff
By zlandar on 6/12/2012 8:57:54 AM , Rating: 2
What a joke. $40 just to "share"? The $50 per GB is a rip.




Not Gonna Do it...
By Syran on 6/12/2012 9:13:15 AM , Rating: 2
The price at the bottom end really bites. I bet, against current pricing, things are probably decent, but for us grandfathered unlimiteds, it sucks.

Right now, we have 1 basic, 3 androids on our account (all 3 androids have unlimited data) with 1400 minutes (we hardly use half, but we do alot of mobile to mobile and Friends&Family calls that don't consume minutes), after a corporate discount, taxes, and all is $218.53. Typical month, we consume between 5 - 8 GB of data total between the 3 smartphones without any hotspots or tethering.

With the new system, based on an 8GB plan:
$240 + $20 taxes and surcharges = $260
I'm not sure how corporate discounts will work, in the past, it was off the primary account + 1 phone.
In our case, would be $70.20 access + 31.20 first phone + 80 (2 smartphones) + $30 (basic phone) + $20 taxes = $231.40. Only benefit is unlimited calling.
If they discounted the whole thing, it would be $207.20, but still not provide us with enough imho, to switch.

I'm actually planning to pick up a jetpack to move my 4G sim into for a mobile hotspot since I have unlimited. Will be interesting to see what the future holds.




Not that bad?
By GoodRevrnd on 6/12/2012 5:18:47 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not saying this new plan is a good deal, but maybe I am dumb reading that is better than the current family plan for *new* customers.

2 smartphones current:
$70 (700m) + $10 + $30 (txt) + $30 (2gb) + $30 (2gb) = $170

2 smartphones new shared:
$40 + $40 (unl) + $70 (4gb) = $150

So that's $20 less with unlimited voice minutes plus if my wife is a light data user and only uses 500mb that means I can use 3.5GB. VZW is still overpriced as all hell but this is an improvement unless I'm misunderstanding something. Also, they're the only carrier with decent coverage in Las Vegas so I'm stuck anyway.




Great...
By SithSolo1 on 6/13/2012 12:04:18 AM , Rating: 2
What if you don't currently have a need for Unlimited Talk/Txt? It appears low min&txt/moderate data users get hosed.

Currently have 2 Plans. A family share with 5 lines, 2 dumb w/no data and 3 smart w/unlimited data. The other plan is single smart phone w/unlimited data. Combined usage of all 6 lines is under 800 mins/mo and 250 txt/mo. Combined data usage for the lines is around 5GB.

As far as I can tell if all the phones go under the new plan it would cost $5/mo more than it does now for just 1 measly GB of data. With the 6GB plan it'd be $35 more per month.




Great but
By dsquare86 on 6/13/2012 6:37:36 AM , Rating: 2
I just got done running through my current plan and this will save me nothing, in fact will cost more. Verizon is gone for sure in August as far as I am concerned.




F*** Verizon
By jharper12 on 6/13/2012 3:38:11 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously... f*** them. Literally the only difference between this an a normal family plan is that you can activate tablets and hotspots on the same data plan. They still charge per device, which is IDIOTIC! If you're charging for data, why the f*** does it matter which device is receiving the data?!? Why Verizon?!? The whole point behind this was supposed to be to have all of your devices on a single data plan. There is NO reason to charge per device outside of just wanting to screw your customers. Charge what you want per GB, and let us decide how to use that data. F*** you, f*** you, f*** you. I seriously like your company so much less following this announcement. Go to hell.




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