quote: ...other benefits to autonomous vehicles besides safety.
quote: Accidents and bad drivers aren't good things. But they're the necessary evil that comes with being free.
quote: You do realize how many innocent families die each year in automobile accidents through absolutely no fault of their own?
quote: The belief that we can save all "wrongful" deaths through legislation of safety technologies is inherently Liberal and wrongheaded.
quote: A better example would be seat belts. Which I don't think should be mandatory. To have in the car or wear. Because it should be your choice whether or not to take the risk. I personally will always wear one. But I respect people's right to choose.
quote: And you' realize you're talking about less than 1% of the population right? While every one is tragic, do you mandate something that would cost that much money and takes away other people's freedom to do things they like and enjoy.
quote: Liberty is dangerous.That being said, autonomous vehicles are necessary. While you have the privilege to drive, you don't have the right to impose your poor decisions upon the rest of society, which all incur the costs of said decisions through emergency services, lost wages (taxes), and other costs associated with crashes.
quote: If technology gives us the means to eradicate car crashes altogether, then I can see no reason to avoid it....If the fear is that one will no longer be able to choose where or when to go somewhere due to some government-mandated control chip, that's a different discussion.
quote: Personally, I would like to drink too much and have my car drive me home while I pass out.
quote: If you and FIT had it your way, seeing as how you have a problem with "legislation of safety technologies," should we do away with stop signs?
quote: There is no perfect solution to fixing the cultural problem this country has with driving cars.
quote: The environmental benefits of autonomous vehicles through increased driving efficiency will indeed be outweighed by peoples inevitably greater reliance on a vehicle they wont have to operate.
quote: Marriage is a right too, yet married couples have to apply for a marriage license from the state. Driving is NO different.
quote: The environmental "benefits" will be outweighed by massively increased travel. If self-driving technology becomes so robust that you can actually sleep in your car while it drives you places, travel will INCREASE. Massively! Why wouldn't it? You car can take you anywhere with zero effort from you. You really don't think people would drive MORE?
quote: Hell why take a plane if you can just go to sleep in your car, and arrive at your destination 4 or 5 hours later?
quote: Driving, on the other hand, IS a privilege that you must earn. We all already do this by taking tests to earn a driver's license, which gives a citizen the PRIVILEGE of driving a vehicle on public roadways.
quote: I have a right to bear arms as well, should we just throw that in the pile of unrelated examples?
quote: because I don't know a lot of people who choose to fly for trips of such a short duration.
quote: Pure speculation and you fail to take into account the many advantages as well, such as the fact that a fully automated system could provide vastly superior traffic flow, massively reducing congestion (especially during rush hours) and thus drastically reducing the commute time per vehicle. Less congestion with no need for things such as traffic lights and stop signs (since the vehicles would all communicate to coordinate this information) would allow for increase speed limits and generally better fuel efficiency in many urban errors.
quote: Yet we view one as a right, and one as a privilege. How convenient! What's the difference?
quote: This is a fantasy that could only be true in a world where ALL vehicles are self-driving. From motorcycles on up to big rigs and everything in between. And also where EVERY vehicle is V2V equipped. Removing stop lights and road signs? Ahhahah, good luck! Maybe in 100 years we'll even get to that level of technology and ubiquitous saturation. But you can just forget that ever happening in our lifetimes.
quote: It was really more of my counter example to the claim that it's guaranteed to increase polution, as that would only be true in the short term.
quote: I don't remember ever saying driving was a "natural" right. Anyway I'm not sure what to say now..I guess sorry for boring you? You didn't HAVE to engage me on this.
quote: But they're the necessary evil that comes with being free. Some of us don't want to be drones shuttled around by computerized drones, devoid of a world where spirited driving is a possibility in the name of supposedly absolute safety.
quote: Public roads are government property, and it is a privilege (not a right) to use them.
quote: So how would you have my manual vehicle in the auto driven utopia get to said track? What if I do not have the money for the support vehicle to get my manual vehicle to the track?
quote: What if I want to drive a motorcycle? I mean that will by no means be the same on automatic. What if I am going to a new area before the GPS coordinates are input into my auto car? What about the millions of people who do not properly maintain their vehicles? What if someone hacks the drivers grid? changes all locations to in the river?
quote: I can go a long way with what if. Sure auto vehicles can save lives, however I would prefer the government who DOES not have my well being in mind no matter what they say, out of as many things as i can. They have taken enough away already. Lets not let them take more.
quote: Public roads are government property,
quote: 1) Uhm, I can have a self driving car and still be free...
quote: If there were a way to keep bad drivers off the roads
quote: If autonomous driving vehicles can save 30,000 lives every year, then it needs to become mandatory.
quote: [Quaid enters a Johnnycab to escape from killers]Johnnycab: Please state the street and number.Douglas Quaid: Drive! drive!Johnnycab: I'm not familiar with that address. Would you please repeat the destination?Douglas Quaid: Anywhere just go! Go!Johnnycab: I'm not familiar with that address. Would you please repeat the destination?Douglas Quaid: Shit! shit!Johnnycab: Would you please repeat the destination?Douglas Quaid: [Quaid rips the Johnnycab out and starts to drive himself] Aaahhh!
quote: Shrink that personal space to near-zero and you'll wonder why you even needed a huge 5000 square feet mansion in the first place.
quote: Hence why a lot of liberals want the American people to be less mobile.
quote: license would be both hideously expensive
quote: Side note, can the gov tell you what car to buy or drive? Because if self-driving zones or times are created, you're effectively banning certain vehicles during those times and in those zones.
quote: I would suspect self driving cars would be able to drive alongside regular human driven cars, so there would be no need for special roadways or zones in order to make them work.