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Encore 2 family will be available in 8-inch and 10-inch models

This past week, we brought you Microsoft’s official announcement of Windows 8.1 with Bing. The operating system, which requires Bing to be the default search engine within Internet Explorer, is aimed at manufacturers looking to market low-cost computers to customers.
 
Toshiba today announced the first devices to run Windows 8.1 with Bing, and they come from the company’s Encore 2 family of tablets. The Encore 2 tablets will be available in both 8-inch and 10-inch versions, and will share all other performance and hardware specifications (with the exception of a micro HDMI port on the 10-inch model). That means that both tablets are powered by a quad-core Intel Atom Z3735F processor and have a screen resolution of 1280x800.


Encore 2 10-inch
 
Other shared specs include 32GB of storage, a 5MP rear camera, a 1.2MP front-facing camera, Dolby Digital Plus audio, microSD slot (with support for up to 128GB of storage), 802.11n, and Bluetooth 4.0. Both tablets will also come with a free one-year subscription to Office 365 Personal.


Encore 2 10-inch
 
The 10-inch Encore 2 weighs in at 1.2 pounds and will be priced from $269, while the 8-inch Encore 2 weighs less than a pound and is priced at a more reasonable $199. Both tablets will be available to purchase in early July.


Encore 2 8-inch

Source: Toshiba



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Only $199?
By BRB29 on 5/27/14, Rating: 0
RE: Only $199?
By lagomorpha on 5/27/2014 11:08:38 AM , Rating: 3
Well that and the tray price for these Atom CPUs is only $17. Between MS lowering the licensing fee and hoping to make it up in Bing advertisement revenue and Intel giving the chips away nearly free in order to break into the tablet market it's no surprise we're starting to see low cost tablets.


RE: Only $199?
By themaster08 on 5/27/2014 11:31:09 AM , Rating: 4
Windows 8.1 with Bing is free for devices that meet Microsoft's criteria.


RE: Only $199?
By MadMan007 on 5/27/2014 6:27:11 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, that is exactly what they did.


RE: Only $199?
By w8gaming on 5/27/2014 7:38:00 PM , Rating: 2
Windows licensing fee is already free for 9" or less device.


How far the Winopoly has come.
By HardwareDufus on 5/27/2014 12:48:01 PM , Rating: 5
Competition is truly grand.
Step back and think.. If you've been in the tech business as long as I have (cut my teeth on an Apple IIc in 7th grade), then you can appreciate how much value we are getting. Competition has been grand.

This is a Full Windows 8.1 computer with Office (free for one year, anyway) running on Intel hardware for $199. Download Adobe Reader and Flash, and 99% of the users of this device are covered.

My Nokia 920, has a dual core cpu (SnapDragon S4 - equiv to 400+, more or less) @ 1.5Ghz, 1 GB ram, 32GB storage, a 4.5" screen at 1280X768, Wifi and 4G. It runs WinPhone8 and has a few Microsoft Office applets (I've actually created/edited word documents and excel documents on it).This tablet beats it in every single category, sans the 4G. I paid allot more than $199.

Now you can't compare a phone to a tablet, because there is cost in miniaturization of hardware... Just illustrating product value.

Some of you haven't gotten so spoiled rotten, that you are missing the leaps/gains that are happening every day. Competition and Technological breakthroughs are making things more affordable than ever.

A device like this can be distributed everywhere, affordably! Cheap Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and you have a low cost desktop computer for the masses.

Toshiba, Intel and Microsoft have pulled off something great with this device.




RE: How far the Winopoly has come.
By Spuke on 5/27/2014 4:31:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
A device like this can be distributed everywhere, affordably! Cheap Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and you have a low cost desktop computer for the masses.
BAM! And that's the true beauty of this device.


Intel® Atom™ Processor Z3735F
By lagomorpha on 5/27/2014 10:03:41 AM , Rating: 2
It looks like the only difference between the Z3735F and the Z3740 in Toshiba's Encore 8" tablet is single channel memory vs dual-channel and the Z3735 lacks AES instructions, anti-theft technology, a few graphics features, and is cheaper.




By ilt24 on 5/27/2014 10:24:13 AM , Rating: 2
Another difference, the original Encore 8's cameras were 8MP rear and 2MP front.


By atechfan on 5/27/2014 12:11:29 PM , Rating: 1
It is barely adequate on a mini tablet. At 10 inches, it isn't acceptable any more.




It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Arsynic on 5/27/14, Rating: -1
RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By tayb on 5/27/2014 10:45:59 AM , Rating: 2
Do you realize that this is running Windows? The entire Windows application catalog will run on this device. There is no need to bundle a reader application. Install your own from the hundreds of choices.


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Arsynic on 5/27/14, Rating: 0
RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Mitch101 on 5/27/2014 11:49:40 AM , Rating: 2
Im guessing you never used Calibre.
http://calibre-ebook.com/


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Arsynic on 5/27/14, Rating: -1
RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By inighthawki on 5/27/2014 12:08:55 PM , Rating: 5
And this isn't an RT tablet.


By Samus on 5/27/2014 2:32:30 PM , Rating: 2
Booya


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By name99 on 5/27/14, Rating: 0
By domboy on 5/27/2014 4:55:42 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Is there not a Kindle app for Metro?


Sure there is, two actually, desktop and modern ui versions. But I'm guessing he doesn't like either one of those either (but then I'm also assuming since he's tried the nook app he would have also tried the kindle app).


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Mitch101 on 5/27/2014 5:02:35 PM , Rating: 2
Print is dead I collect spores, molds, and fungus.

The App could probably use a facelift but it does what it does well. Not sure what or why I would need it to be sexy for it displays printed text.


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 6:00:47 PM , Rating: 2
The guy just seriously suggested buying a "retina" iPad to get a good eReader.

Mitch, he's an idiot.


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By name99 on 5/27/2014 6:45:49 PM , Rating: 1
I'm sorry, why is my suggestion to buy a retina iPad the mark of an idiot?
I used that phrase specifically. You want an iPad (so you can run GoodReader) and you want retina (so that it looks good --- at least this matters for the technical PDFs I read). Beyond that, I don't think it matters if you buy an iPad3, 4 or Air.

An iPad3 with 16GB is available for about $320 on eBay. Why is it a crazy suggestion that this is what you should buy to get a good eReader? I'm not claiming it's the CHEAPEST eReader or the lightest or the most kindly. I'm claiming that, for the particular task I have, which sounds like the task at the root of this conversation --- reading LARGE numbers of PDFs, it is the best. Come up with a counterclaim if you dispute my point.


By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 7:26:07 PM , Rating: 2
It just goes to the general iTard philosophy that Apple is the best in all things and only Apple hardware and software is ever good at anything.

The idea that you seriously believe an iPad is necessary to use good eReader software is what makes you sound like a lunatic.

Millions and millions of people are reading books just fine without an iPad or "GoodReader". Just..get a clue.


By w8gaming on 5/27/2014 7:41:30 PM , Rating: 3
Looks like you really don't know what app is available in both Android and Windows platform. You don't even know Kindle is available and does not take the time to even google it to find out.


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/14, Rating: -1
RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Da W on 5/27/2014 11:15:31 AM , Rating: 2
Reclaimer do you have a life?


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/14, Rating: -1
RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Mitch101 on 5/27/2014 11:58:38 AM , Rating: 2
Says the guy with over 16K more posts than the guy he is trying to call out.

Your worse than a spam bot.
https://www.google.com/#q=Reclaimer77

LOL - You own an X-Box?
http://www.xboxlivescore.com/profile/Reclaimer77


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/14, Rating: -1
By littlebitstrouds on 5/27/2014 12:43:15 PM , Rating: 2
I think what they meant to say was, maybe you should stop talking so damn much, and start developing your character. It's so abrasive, I find myself logging on once every 6 months just to address it.


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/14, Rating: 0
RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By flyingpants1 on 5/27/2014 1:05:09 PM , Rating: 2
Self-delusion is a powerful thing.


By Spuke on 5/27/2014 4:34:06 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Self-delusion is a powerful thing.
So is cocaine. Wipe your nose.


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Da W on 5/27/2014 3:30:59 PM , Rating: 1
I have a life but a few spare moment at the job.
So i go here and there on DT.. but at every goddamn article about Microsoft i see Reclaimer77 posting an insane number of shit about how bad everything they do is.

Ok, you don't like Microsoft. We got it. Can we move on now?


By Mitch101 on 5/27/2014 4:26:44 PM , Rating: 2
If you haven't been told were all Luddites and myopic for not agreeing with him. LOL

I'm not sure how every other persons post is a fight in the making for him as of late. Too much anger.

Ive learned to ignore him for the most part. Sometimes hes just out to twist what you say to start an argument and you just have to walk away because nothing good will come from responding to him when he starts up.


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By themaster08 on 5/27/2014 11:29:44 AM , Rating: 2
What you failed to understand, yet again, is that these tablets are running a fully fledged version of Windows; not RT.


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 1:02:03 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What you failed to understand, yet again, is that these tablets are running a fully fledged version of Windows; not RT.


I see this as Microsoft's failure more than my own. If you were just looking at this tablet, but had no information provided, would you know what OS this is running? Nope.

This was the whole problem with introducing a "Windows RT" along with a Windows 8 along with a Windows Phone 8 OS. What a mess!

And people say other ecosystems are 'fragmented'?


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By atechfan on 5/27/2014 1:14:12 PM , Rating: 2
It isn't difficult. Intel CPU, full Windows, ARM CPU, Windows RT. Surely even you can understand that much.


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 1:17:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
but had no information provided,


I guess you didn't see this part?

Look I obviously didn't read the article in-depth to see the specs. I mean, it's a Windows 8 device. Why even bother? :)

Having said that, for the money, this seems pretty interesting. Not sure what the OP is on about...


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By atechfan on 5/27/2014 1:32:34 PM , Rating: 2
Except for the screen resolution. Even budget devices should be full HD by now.


By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 1:36:08 PM , Rating: 2
Well I have no idea what their cost would be going from 800p to 1080p. But at this price, you have to cut corners somewhere. I can't beat them up too much over it I guess.

I think with the QHD push, sooner rather than later, your desire to see FHD standard will be realized.


By name99 on 5/27/2014 4:15:38 PM , Rating: 2
His larger point is correct, though he expressed it badly.
What he means to say is not that he wants this to run an RT version of an eReader, but that he wants a Metro version of an eReader.

This is a perfectly reasonable request --- especially for tablet use, the entire collection of Windows classic eReaders all look like ass, with dozens of finicky small buttons, long lists of text, lots of chrome, few graphics and no attempts at animation in the UI, etc. The usual "could have been designed and written in 1995 and probably was" you expect from Windows.


By atechfan on 5/27/2014 12:07:03 PM , Rating: 2
These are not RT devices, so yes, their are hundreds of e-reader choices. I'd go for Calibre, and Kindle. Between those two you should be covered.


By kleinma on 5/27/2014 12:10:21 PM , Rating: 2
it isn't an RT device... The app store is only 1 place to get software for full windows devices.


RE: It's Still Garbage Because It Runs Windows
By Chaser on 5/27/2014 1:44:18 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
'Hundreds of choices'?
How about 10s of thousands?

This is a full Windows tablet. I understand a major part of your relentless pursuit of a "full life" is to scathingly wait to pounce on anything related to Windows 8.1 announcements and their tablets but you jumped the gun on this one.


By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 1:49:40 PM , Rating: 2
Congrats on being the 20'th person to point out my mistake. Yes, I totally made a mistake. I can live with that, can you?

quote:
is to scathingly wait to pounce on anything related to Windows 8.1 announcements


Now that's just NOT true. Go back to every argument I ever made about Windows 8. I ALWAYS said it was a mobile UI, it belong on a device like this.

The only problem I EVER had with Windows 8, was that Fisher Price mobile UI being forced on desktop users.

Yes I jumped the gun and made a silly mistake. I fully admit it, and am eating crow on that. But please don't read too much into it or make a capital case over it.


By Samus on 5/27/2014 2:35:27 PM , Rating: 1
He's not your buddy, Pal!


By inighthawki on 5/27/2014 11:12:33 AM , Rating: 2
If you're going to get a *dedicated e-reading tablet*, then these types of tablets are not the ones you want.


By retrospooty on 5/27/2014 11:51:03 AM , Rating: 2
"No, this isn't a typical Windows bash"

I agree, it is an atypical windows bash... But still, very misguided. It's really not complicated at all, not sure why you are having such a problem... Sounds like you are a good candidate for an iPad.


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