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It doesn't qualify because the Model S is an American import

According to The Detroit News, Tesla Motors acknowledged that its Model S doesn't qualify for China's EV subsidies because it's an American import, but that won't stop the automaker from trying. 
 
“We understand we don’t qualify for direct subsidies,” said Diarmuid O’Connell, Tesla’s VP of Business Development. “We’re hoping the government will consider the role Tesla can have in catalyzing electric vehicle adoption in China and extend those incentives to Model S as well."
 
The Model S will be sold in China starting next month, and subsidies for EVs will reportedly be cut much further than previously planned. Even though Tesla isn't eligible for the subsidies, it's a good start for potentially increased EV adoption.
 
China’s finance ministry said that subsidies would only be cut 5 percent this year, as opposed to 10 percent. In 2015, subsidies will be cut by another 10 percent as opposed to a previously planned 20 percent. 


Tesla Model S

Tesla has some big plans for China, as CEO Elon Musk recently said that China might match the U.S. in volume "as early as next year."
 
Tesla has proven time and time again that being the small guy in the auto race doesn't mean coming in last. The automaker's value quadrupled last year (TSLA is currently hovering around $196/share) and its Q4 shipments of the Model S were 20 percent higher than expected. 
 
In May 2013, Tesla repaid its $465 million loan from the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) nine years earlier than expected from the original 2022 due date. 
 
Last month, the automaker addressed a huge anxiety for potential EV drivers: electric range. It announced that Model S drivers could now drive from coast to coast without any doubt that they can find a Supercharger plenty of places in between. 
 
Tesla even scheduled a road trip from Los Angeles to New York from January 31 through February 2, where Model S drivers proved a road trip can be done in the Model S in addition to mere daily commutes. 

Source: The Detroit News



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For China, subsidies = lower tariffs
By Mint on 2/12/2014 11:27:22 AM , Rating: 2
The Model S is priced, after currency exchange, at USD ~$121k in mainland China but only USD ~$74k in Hong Kong due to differences in shipping/duties/fees.

Tesla has a mantra of passing all such savings (or additional costs) to the consumer, so it's possible that Chinese gov'ts will listen, but OTOH they probably don't see any need to lose import duty revenue for those who buy luxury cars.




By vortmax2 on 2/13/2014 10:43:40 AM , Rating: 2
China's subsidy favoritism to domestic EVs.

Also, "American imports" are specifically called out...does China allow full subsidies on non-American EV imports?




good move
By Reclaimer77 on 2/12/14, Rating: -1
RE: good move
By tanjali on 2/12/2014 11:12:43 AM , Rating: 2
Haters Gonna Hate!


RE: good move
By Spuke on 2/12/2014 12:59:36 PM , Rating: 2
He's not hating, he's just not a nut swinger like some of you guys.


RE: good move
By Mint on 2/12/2014 2:12:30 PM , Rating: 3
I don't see him talking about "billionaire fangs" in DT articles about products from Microsoft, Oracle, Walmart, Amazon, Google, Facebook, Dell, Samsung, BMW, Virgin, Intel, Ebay, HTC, Qualcomm, etc.

There are billionaires behind many products that we buy.


RE: good move
By Reclaimer77 on 2/12/2014 2:50:27 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I don't see him talking about "billionaire fangs" in DT articles about products from Microsoft, Oracle, Walmart, Amazon, Google, Facebook, Dell, Samsung, BMW, Virgin, Intel, Ebay, HTC, Qualcomm, etc.


People get politically-based tax breaks and subsidies when they buy consumer electronics or shop at Walmart? Ummm okay!

The context apparently is WAY over your head here, Mint.


RE: good move
By Mint on 2/12/2014 11:16:50 PM , Rating: 2
The need for EVs in China isn't about arbitrary politics. Urban air pollution is knocking off 5 years of life expectancy there (yes, I know you're going to bring up the coal-powered-EV line, but that's still way better than combustion engines in dense areas, and they've got big plans for nuclear), and they'll soon surpass the US to become the world's biggest importer. Oil just cracked $100/bbl on reports of China's rising consumption.

China has already embraced electric bikes, with over 200 million on the roads already. It's a central policy goal of China to find alternatives to oil for transport, as their growth depends on it.


RE: good move
By Reclaimer77 on 2/12/2014 11:26:05 PM , Rating: 2
Wow! You STILL don't get it.

And China's air quality problem is big ass smokestacks dumping billions of tons of industrial-grade pollutants into the air. NOT automotive exhaust. Wtf man? Tesla's in China wouldn't even make a dent in their pollution problem.


RE: good move
By Mint on 2/14/2014 5:27:39 AM , Rating: 2
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-01/china-veh...

Yes, vehicle exhaust is a concern. You also ignored the more important point of China needing huge oil imports, and they aren't even at half the vehicle ownership of US/Europe. They're expected to purchase 30% of global new auto sales by 2020. How are they going to keep fueling that?

Tesla isn't going to make a dent next year, but a few years down the road, Tesla, Renault-Nissan, VW, and other foreign companies will be selling (and maybe building) more EVs there than in the US.


RE: good move
By tanjali on 2/12/2014 5:09:36 PM , Rating: 2
Show me one article hes not bashing EV's (nut swingering) and I'll spit you in the face.


RE: good move
By Reclaimer77 on 2/12/2014 5:15:14 PM , Rating: 2
There's lots of articles where I'm not "bashing" EV's. You lose.


RE: good move
By tanjali on 2/12/2014 5:36:37 PM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't waste my time looking for trolls commenting anyways.


RE: good move
By atechfan on 2/14/2014 12:54:03 PM , Rating: 2
I think he meant articles about EVs where you did not bash them. Of course you didn't in the Windows vs Chrome thread. ;)


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