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This includes the MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, iPad and the iPad Mini

China has been kicking a number of foreign companies' products out of the country, and now, Apple has been targeted in the latest round as well.
 
According to a new report from Bloomberg, China’s government has taken 10 Apple products off of its final government procurement list in July, meaning that they can't be bought with public money due to security concerns. 
 
Some of these 10 products include the MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, iPad and the iPad Mini. They appeared on on a June version of the list, which was drafted by the National Development and Reform Commission and Ministry of Finance.
 
This isn't good news for Apple, which received about 16 percent of its $37.4 billion USD in revenue last quarter from sales in Greater China. 
 
Following the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) spy program revelations -- which were uncovered by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden -- China is severing some ties with American products.  
 
China has been booting foreign companies' products left and right lately, with Microsoft being one of the major hits. Microsoft's Windows 8 operating system was banned from the country because China suspects a too-close-for-comfort type of relationship between Microsoft and the United States government. 


Despite Microsoft's denial of working too closely with the U.S. government, Windows 8 remains banned in China. The ban was reportedly to ensure computer security after Microsoft ended support for its Windows XP operating system -- still widely used throughout China. Last week, four Microsoft offices were raided by the State Administration for Industry and Commerce in China as part of an official investigation.   
 
Earlier this week, it was announced that both U.S.-based Symantec Corp and Russian-based Kaspersky Lab have been taken off of the list of approved anti-virus software vendors in China.  
 
However, five Chinese anti-virus software brands were added to the list, including Qihoo 360 Technology Co, Venustech, CAJinchen, Beijing Jiangmin and Rising. 
 
While security is a major issue with bringing foreign products in according to China, this could also serve as a boost for homegrown companies. 

Source: Bloomberg



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INCORRECT
By Shadowself on 8/6/2014 12:25:17 PM , Rating: 3
Actually NO .

Several of Apple's products are not on an energy efficiency preferred list. The list is for being very energy efficient computer and mobile related products. The Chinese government plans to enforce purchases from this list if, and only if, there is a need for strict energy efficiency for that equipment.

That list is for products that companies proposed to the Chinese government to be placed onto that list then were approved by the Chinese government. Apple did not go through the submission process to get any of their systems onto that list.

If a Chinese government organization wants to buy Apple products and they do not have a defined and enforceable requirement to buy an approved energy efficient item, they can buy Apple products. There is no restriction other than the energy efficiency part.

The list has absolutely nothing to do with security.

Apple has not been universally banned from selling products to the Chinese government due to security concerns with their products.

DailyTech needs to look into things such as this more deeply before just retelling grossly inaccurate reports.




RE: INCORRECT
By Spuke on 8/6/14, Rating: 0
RE: INCORRECT
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/6/2014 1:17:14 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, yes...

quote:
China’s government excluded Apple Inc. iPads and MacBook laptops from the list of products that can be bought with public money because of security concerns, according to government officials familiar with the matter.
But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of your Apple defense.


RE: INCORRECT
By Shadowself on 8/8/2014 10:36:59 AM , Rating: 2
ACTUALLY NO.

Even the Chinese government today OFFICIALLY stated that no such ban is in place due to any security concerns! Go check it out for yourself.

I'm NOT coming to Apple's defense. You've read pieces on this site where I've bashed Apple when appropriate. As I've stated on this site many, many times, I just hate truly inaccurate reporting.


RE: INCORRECT
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/8/2014 12:49:48 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
China’s government excluded Apple Inc. iPads and MacBook laptops from the list of products that can be bought with public money because of security concerns, according to government officials familiar with the matter.
What part of this are you not understanding? I am sure someone who is FAMILIAR with the situation KNOWS better than some Apple defender on the internet.


RE: INCORRECT
By ven1ger on 8/6/2014 3:14:25 PM , Rating: 2
I just followed the link to the Bloomberg article and it doesn't say anything that you alluded to, Tiffany's reporting seems to reflect what the Bloomberg article is stating.

Do you have any link to prove what you claim?


RE: INCORRECT
By Shadowself on 8/8/2014 10:38:53 AM , Rating: 2
RE: INCORRECT
By ritualm on 8/6/2014 3:54:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The list has absolutely nothing to do with security.

So the facts that NSA has wiretapped the primary internet exchanges at Hong Kong, plus several major universities in both HKSAR and mainland China, is not reason enough to worry?

Yeah right.


RE: INCORRECT
By Shadowself on 8/8/2014 10:43:45 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, the list has nothing to do with security. It has to do with companies applying to be on a list that delineates "energy efficient" systems.

Why didn't Apple's products get onto the list? Who knows. Maybe it was Apple's supreme arrogance that they don't need to be on the list to sell enough of their products. Some are saying that Apple didn't even apply to get their products onto the list.

The fact remains that this specific list has NOTHING to due with Apple's products' security. And, the organizations within the Chinese Government can still by Apple products if they choose to do so.


Lol
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/6/2014 11:50:29 AM , Rating: 2
Lol, awesome :)




RE: Lol
By Reclaimer77 on 8/6/2014 12:33:59 PM , Rating: 2
I thought the same thing. Just..HAHHAHA!

So sweet.


RE: Lol
By tonyswash on 8/6/14, Rating: 0
RE: Lol
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/6/2014 3:01:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
BTW the way writing 'HAHHAHA!' makes you look a bit bonkers.
As if your fanatical and obsessive defense of a company who doesn't care about you doesn't?


RE: Lol
By tonyswash on 8/6/2014 4:42:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
As if your fanatical and obsessive defense of a company who doesn't care about you doesn't?


Not unlike a fanatical hatred of company who products you do not buy? What's more bonkers celebrating a company whose products one buys and appreciate or hating a company whose products one does not buy?


RE: Lol
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/6/2014 7:51:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What's more bonkers celebrating a company whose products one buys and appreciate or hating a company whose products one does not buy?
I already pointed out what is more "bonkers"... your fanatical obsession with defending all things Apple, even defending them when they break laws and blaming the shift to other companies.


RE: Lol
By Reclaimer77 on 8/7/2014 10:27:02 AM , Rating: 2
This is juevinille logic. So you have to "buy" a product before you can criticize it's creator.

Okay hold on, I need to make a call here.

*phone ringing*

"Hello, Monsanto? Yes I would like to place an order. Can I have a barrel of Agent Orange please? See, I really can't decide if I should be for or against your product. I need to own it first and try it out - what do you mean is this a prank? No I'm serious! Someone over the Internet said I shou -" *CLICK*

Oh well they hung up, I'll keep trying...


RE: Lol
By ritualm on 8/6/2014 3:47:35 PM , Rating: 2
2014 is fast shaping to be a very bad year for everyone in the US tech industry. Contrary to most of the anti-Apple sentiment here, this is not at all the time to celebrate.


RE: Lol
By Shadowself on 8/8/2014 10:47:14 AM , Rating: 2
Ah, so you want to celebrate and support inaccurate reporting? You think THAT'S awesome?


That's fine...
By Iketh on 8/6/2014 4:19:47 PM , Rating: 2
Let them continue to ban foreign hi-tech products. They're only weakening themselves in the long run, which is a plus for that type of government.




RE: That's fine...
By fteoath64 on 8/7/2014 11:27:29 PM , Rating: 2
It is about time that China lives up to their principles and do something about it. This shows the NSA spying is much much more serious than people thinks and rightly so. Why should a foreign power to subjected to such tactics in order to gain advantage in all areas including commercial deals. Such tactics is downright dirty and unacceptable. In the US, just because of NS letters before that people got scared. That was the point. No agency ANYWHERE has unlimited powers and if they show it, then something is DRASTICALLY wrong with the picture. It took years for the people of USA to find out and when they did, they hardly do anything about it.
ie. If someone goes after you with a long knife, you have to defend yourself of gets killed.


I would not be surprised...
By peterrushkin on 8/6/2014 12:14:57 PM , Rating: 1
That within 5, 10 years time we have this situation.

In Russia/China that only home grown products exist to buy. No western countries can import to there.

However, the reverse won't be true. China will still be able to export its goods to the US/rest of the world.

Meanwhile, the dumbasses in Western countries still will not be promoting "built in here" and continue to have little or no manufacturing capability and thus having a crappy/in-balanced economy.




By StormyKnight on 8/7/2014 1:20:47 AM , Rating: 2
Actually several companies, John Deere being an example, sell their tractors and other farming equipment in Russia just fine. They just arrive disassembled. They are then assembled and sold at their dealerships.


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