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Brandon Hill (Blog) - March 14, 2007 10:11 AM

23 comment(s) - last by ProxyOne.. on Mar 15 at 9:35 AM

Super Talent shows off new SATAs in capacities up to 128GB

It looks as though solid state drives (SSDs) are coming out in full force this year. We've already seen new offerings from Adtron, SanDisk, Ritek and Intel. Today, we hear that Super Talent is beefing up its line of SSDs with new SATA offerings.

Super Talent is offering its SSDs in 1.8", 2.5" and 3.5" form factors. The 1.8", 2.5" and 3.5" drives will be available in capacities of up to 32GB, 64GB and 128GB respectively.

"This new generation of SSD drives delivers all the benefits of Flash based storage -- rugged reliability, low power consumption and fast access speed," said Super Talent marketing director Joe James. "But we’ve engineered these drives to offer twice the data throughput at half the cost per gigabyte compared to the first SSD drives we introduced a year-ago."

According to Super Talent, the drives have an access time of less than 0.1ms, read/write speeds of 28MB/sec, MTBF of 1,000,000 hours and a write/erase endurance of 100,000 cycles.

Super Talent was contacted for pricing information, but none is available at the moment. We will keep you posted as more information rolls in.

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28MB/s read/write speed?

By JackBurton on 3/14/2007 10:24:58 AM , Rating: 2

28MB read/write speed? I thought we were trying to move forward? Access time is great, RW speed needs some serious work though.

RE: 28MB/s read/write speed?

By hubajube on 3/14/2007 10:26:25 AM , Rating: 2

Yep that r/w speed sucks.

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RE: 28MB/s read/write speed?

By semo on 3/14/2007 10:34:21 AM , Rating: 2

i think raid should be able to fix that. raiding mechanic hdds doesn't help too much (depends on application) but that's mainly because of the seek times (i think). with ssds you have access times that are 50-100 times lower.

without independent tests (go go anandtech) we are only speculating of course.

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RE: 28MB/s read/write speed?

By Oregonian2 on 3/14/2007 11:53:13 AM , Rating: 1

They perhaps should use something similar to RAID-0 internally (much like that used with the use of dual memory sticks in PC's). Would double the block-size though, and maybe they're too big already and that's the rub.

Nice to see the ball starting to roll. Spendy and small, but give'm ten years where they'll be cheap and big and the mfgr's will have something to do with mass quantities of NAND flash (possibly phase-change flash) pouring out of their fabs.

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RE: 28MB/s read/write speed?

By DarkIntegral on 3/14/2007 11:05:33 AM , Rating: 2

It will be a very long time before the write speeds are increased above competing storage devices.

All that is really needed to make these drives preform extremely fast is an intelligent raid management application. first install the os on it and raid the flash drive with a standard sata drive. Then if only the computer could know to place all small files < X mb's on this and all the large (data, game maps, media, ect) files say > X mb's on a standard magnetic plater drive. That would vastly increase os system calls, game engine calls and things of that nature while leaving large access read/write the same speed as they are now.

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RE: 28MB/s read/write speed?

By tk109 on 3/14/2007 1:31:06 PM , Rating: 2

Sandisks is 67 megabytes/sec.

Thats better than a some traditional harddrives out there now. And closing in on raptors 88 mb/s peak.

I bet by this time next year they will be beating out raptors no problem.

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RE: 28MB/s read/write speed?

By PandaBear on 3/14/2007 2:17:07 PM , Rating: 3

That's because SanDisk is planning to use binary memory and high level of parallelism (i.e. 4 chips parallel) rather than MLC with low level of parallelism (i.e. 2 chips) to do this.

BTW, MLC memory do not last 1 Million cycles, I have seen some testing that the (insert a famous Korean DRAM/Flash giant) made chips are only getting 3000 erase/write cycles before it pops.

So beware of the no-name or generic branded SSD.

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RE: 28MB/s read/write speed?

By TomZ on 3/14/2007 3:22:19 PM , Rating: 2

What is "binary memory" - I haven't heard that term used before. I thought all memory was "binary"?

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RE: 28MB/s read/write speed?

By dnd728 on 3/14/2007 4:27:35 PM , Rating: 2

1 bit, 2 states, single level cell. Contrary to MLC, multi-level cell, where there are 4 or more different states.

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RE: 28MB/s read/write speed?

By Goi on 3/14/2007 7:55:56 PM , Rating: 3

More commonly known as SLC

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Heheh...

By Enoch2001 on 3/14/2007 10:15:49 AM , Rating: 5

Silliest. Name. For a company. Evar.

;-)

RE: Heheh...

By TomZ on 3/14/2007 10:43:58 AM , Rating: 3

I agree. It probably sounded good to someone who is not a native English speaker.

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RE: Heheh...

By dubldwn on 3/14/2007 11:55:43 AM , Rating: 2

"Silliest" just isn't cheeky enough. ;)

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RE: Heheh...

By Enoch2001 on 3/14/2007 6:59:21 PM , Rating: 2

Heheh - yeah but I don't want to offend anyone. Again.

*rolls eyes*

;-)

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RE: Heheh...

By Xenoterranos on 3/15/2007 1:59:28 AM , Rating: 1

they should've tacked on "of great justice" and been done with it.

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I'm thinking HTPC here...

By theaerokid on 3/14/2007 10:42:47 AM , Rating: 3

Use one of the smaller ones to fastboot the OS and apps. Then keep the HTPC content on hard drives. If/when the price point is right I'm sure that'll be a popular application for these.

Price?

By kuyaglen on 3/14/2007 10:27:45 AM , Rating: 2

I suppose the saying, "If you have to ask, then you cant afford it." would fit in this case. But after googling I found their 16gig 2.5" drive ranging from $500 to $850. :eek:

Where?

By etriky on 3/14/2007 10:28:32 AM , Rating: 2

Yes, yes, yes these announcements are nice but where can I buy? Now there would be some news.

Super Talent !!!!!

By DeadPooL on 3/14/2007 10:46:26 AM , Rating: 2

I kind of like that name.

i'd give $300 for each right NOW, but dont make me wait

By Visual on 3/14/2007 12:02:46 PM , Rating: 2

if these are priced right, they'll be a great hit.
for example, i can see the 1.8" and 2.5" versions being more expensive per gigabyte than the 3.5" version even if they are slower - just like is the case with traditional hdds.

i hope the larger drives use some sort of internal raid-like controller, so they get better sustained throughput. it only makes sense - if you're combining several chips to get a greater capacity anyway, at least do it properly and get the max out of it.

so, if the 128gb variant is available at under $300 any time soon, i'll get it for my desktop. at the same time, i can see the same price being payed for the 64gb or even 32gb slimmer drives for their form-factor advantage.
i'd not pay more than $300 for any of these though - two-three times the price of their magnetic equivalents is already expensive enough.

and if they delay them more, i'd be more and more hesitant to pay so expensively - there'll be more and more competition, larger and faster alternatives, advances in manufacturing and so on, which should be constantly driving the prices down.

Sandisks

By SilverBack on 3/14/2007 12:08:42 PM , Rating: 2

quote:

SanDisk's new 2.5-inch SSD can move data to and from the SSD more than 100 times faster than a traditional drive, according to the company. It also will have a sustained read rate of 67 megabytes/sec and a random read rate of 7,000 inputs/outputs per second (IOPS) for a 512-byte transfer.

SanDisk is claiming that it can boot Microsoft Windows Vista Enterprise in as little as 30 seconds and can access files at an average speed of 0.11 milliseconds—compared to the 48 seconds it would take to boot and 17 milliseconds to access files on a notebook using a hard disk drive.

The much-reduced $350 price tag for SanDisk's new SSD is indicative of the continued pricing drop currently underway in the flash industry.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2103810...