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Google wasn't placing ads in Education apps, but was scanning messages anyway

Google has announced that it has stopped scanning student Gmail accounts for the purposes of targeting ads. Google says that it stopped scanning the email accounts of students after the practice was scrutinized during a recent court case.
 
Over 30 million students, teachers, and administrators currently use Google Apps for Education.
 
Google some time ago reportedly stopped the practice of placing ads inside apps geared towards education. However, even though the ads weren't visible, Google could still scan the emails to gather valuable information. The details gleaned reportedly could have been used to target ads at the students elsewhere.

 
Google was sued in California last year for claims that it was violating the state’s wiretapping laws. Google has now promised that not only will it not place ads on the apps for education, but that it will also no longer collect or use student data for advertising purposes. Google is also said to be making similar changes for business and government users.
 
The search giant quietly changed its terms of service on April 15 to be more transparent about its email scanning programs.

Source: WSJ



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education gmail
By fic2 on 4/30/2014 11:53:59 AM , Rating: 2
Hmmm, how does a non-student get an education gmail account...




RE: education gmail
By invidious on 4/30/2014 12:03:50 PM , Rating: 2
This article has nothing to do with Gmail accounts, erroneous buzzwords in titles for the lose.


RE: education gmail
By tayb on 4/30/2014 1:44:22 PM , Rating: 2
It's basically Google Apps for Business but for schools or universities. It's basically Gmail but you have your own domain and access URL. Usually gmail.ORGANIZATIONNAME.com or something such as that. So it is essentially still gmail.


RE: education gmail
By retrospooty on 4/30/2014 1:46:20 PM , Rating: 2
Yup. My wife is a teacher, she has one as well with the State of AZ.


RE: education gmail
By GotThumbs on 4/30/2014 2:43:52 PM , Rating: 1
And HOW MUCH DOES THIS COST the students and teachers?

There has to be an equal trade of value in order to continue the funding of these kinds of "Free" services to the public.

Ad funded sponsorship is how broadcast TV still survives today. PBS is funded by the government, select sponsors, and viewers directly funding it's existence.

It really pisses me off when people who use Google's free services whine because Google funds its operations through targeted Ads. How many would pay the actual cost of using these services if they were 100% free from Ads? I'll bet its a very small number, since MS offers its products online for a fee, but how many more millions use Google's services, specifically because its FREE?

Wanting something for free without putting any support is why there are so many people on welfare and it's totally subsidized by who? The Tax payers.

Nothing is free, because someone always pays.

Rant over Bs,


RE: education gmail
By tayb on 4/30/2014 5:19:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Google Apps for Education is free. We plan to keep the core offering of Google Apps for Education free. This includes user accounts for future incoming students. As you may know, Google was founded by a research project at Stanford University, and this is just one way we can give back to the educational community.


If Google wants to scan emails of students and teachers to send better targeted ads they need to remove this line from Q&A for Education page. They should not pretend to be "giving back to education" while simultaneously profiting from that endeavor by scanning emails of those users.

It looks like they were called out as hypocrites and decided to stop scanning the education emails.

For the broader market I have no problem with Google scanning emails as long as they are upfront about this policy. Until recently they have not been. If I don't want Google scanning my emails I can pay $5/month and use all Google services without big brother Google snooping.


RE: education gmail
By atechfan on 4/30/2014 5:29:07 PM , Rating: 4
They do profit, even without advertising. By getting students used to using Google apps, they are hoping to keep them using the same apps after they graduate. It is the same reason that Apple and MS also give either free or discounted services and software to educational institutions.


RE: education gmail
By NellyFromMA on 5/1/2014 10:09:38 AM , Rating: 2
Spot on! It's always nice when people see the big picture.


lol
By sprockkets on 4/30/2014 11:58:07 AM , Rating: 2
This article came out over a month ago.

Is this the best you can do dailytech?




dumb
By sprockkets on 4/30/14, Rating: -1
RE: dumb
By kleinma on 4/30/2014 12:21:31 PM , Rating: 2
RE: dumb
By sprockkets on 4/30/2014 12:36:04 PM , Rating: 2
You won't find it there - read their second article on it, specifically, the forum posts as well.

This is also referring to the education and business accounts, not the general accounts.

Regardless, no one has proven that Google makes a profile of non gmail users. To say otherwise shows a gross misunderstanding of how google makes relevant ads work.


RE: dumb
By tayb on 4/30/2014 1:36:48 PM , Rating: 2
In that sense why do you care if the NSA is eavesdropping on your calls or intercepting your internet traffic? They aren't really doing anything with that information.

Maybe your problem is that the "government" is doing this? Okay, so exchange NSA with Verison, AT&T, Comcast, or whoever. If you still don't have a problem well, I guess you don't care at all about personal privacy. In that case I can understand why the practice of scanning emails would be no big deal to you.


RE: dumb
By sprockkets on 4/30/2014 9:55:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
In that sense why do you care if the NSA is eavesdropping on your calls or intercepting your internet traffic? They aren't really doing anything with that information.
Maybe your problem is that the "government" is doing this? Okay, so exchange NSA with Verison, AT&T, Comcast, or whoever. If you still don't have a problem well, I guess you don't care at all about personal privacy. In that case I can understand why the practice of scanning emails would be no big deal to you.


False equivalency.

I didn't give my information to the NSA, they stole it illegally. Google OTOH has that data, scanned it, and for the edu users did nothing with it for targeted ad purposes. And as of last year they also removed ads from google search.


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