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Several schools are adopting the system while others have opted out after tests

School officials in South Korea are moving forward with a plan that will allow the school to disable smartphones of students during class. Korean officials have reportedly been conducting trials of the new system using remote management software installed on the smartphones of the students.
 
The software being used is an app called iSmartKeeper and is able to control what services and apps the student has access to from their device. The smartphone can be locked into one of six modes at the teacher's discretion.
 
The system allows the teacher to turn the phones off completely, allow emergency calls only, to only allow phone calls and SMS, and one mode even allows the teacher to turn off specific apps. The goal of the program is to keep kids from being distracted by content on their smartphones while class is going.
 
At the same time, the schools want the smartphones and other devices to be usable as teaching aids. The software can also enable geolocation to keep an eye on where kids are during school hours.
 
The app has been used in trial tests inside 11 schools within Seoul so far -- three of those schools reportedly opted to not use the system after students began rooting their devices to avoid the restrictions.

Source: The Verge



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How about a dedicated lock box?
By quiksilvr on 3/20/14, Rating: 0
RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By Murloc on 3/20/2014 11:15:17 AM , Rating: 5
or you know, just grab the phone and put it in the teacher's desk, then give it back at the end of class.

It's also free.


RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By quiksilvr on 3/20/2014 11:18:44 AM , Rating: 5
Doing that for 30+ students can become very tedious very quickly. I was thinking of an automated system that can be implemented fairly easily.


RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By BRB29 on 3/20/2014 11:39:06 AM , Rating: 4
what would you do if 30 phones were going off in the lockbox?

In an emergency, the first thing you should do is leave asap, not have 30 students jumping for their phones.

Best to stop stupid phone use is install the same materials they use in meeting rooms that block signals. Make no phone policy while in school/class. Define penalties and enforce it.

Every teacher deals with this issue these days. Even kids in elementary have smartphones. The good teachers enforce their policies and kids learned to turn it off until recess or when school is over.


RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By quiksilvr on 3/20/2014 11:52:50 AM , Rating: 2
I meant the dedicated lockbox being at the desk of each student, not across the room (again, make it as seamless as possible and easily accessible if an emergency was underway).

As for blocking signals with another device, it is an interesting idea but it doesn't stop students from using apps and/or playing games.

The thing with South Korea vs other countries is that internet addiction is at a whole 'nother level there. Sometimes things as drastic as this is necessary to curb it.


RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By BRB29 on 3/20/2014 2:21:18 PM , Rating: 3
now you need 30 lock boxes!

It's better just to use classroom management. Teach the socially acceptable behaviors. If they violate your classroom policies then take it away. It's not hard and will probably help them in the future.

....if these kids think they can just whip out a phone in college, at work, or in a meeting...


RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By dice1111 on 3/20/2014 12:00:48 PM , Rating: 2
or, "If I even see/hear/get-a-sense-off, a cell phone in my class, and it's not an emergency... detention. Two strikes, detention for a week. Three strikes, you can tell your parents to come get it from me during working hours, and detention for another week."


RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By hughlle on 3/20/2014 2:34:52 PM , Rating: 2
At the schools around where i grew up, if you were caught using your phone in class, it would be confiscated, for 24 hours at a minimum. The kids kept their phones away until breaktime. Better for them to go a couple of hours without than a day or two.


RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By JediJeb on 3/20/2014 5:02:46 PM , Rating: 2
When I grew up if you were caught using a phone in class it was in a secretarial class. Mobile phones were too heavy to carry around with you to class lol.


By sorry dog on 3/23/2014 12:52:19 PM , Rating: 2
No kidding... my school had two pay phones next to the lunch room... which usually meant the occasional bomb threat was usually around lunch time.


By jimbojimbo on 3/20/2014 4:50:40 PM , Rating: 2
I'd have ran an app that would make a fart noise after so many minutes. :)


By laviathan05 on 3/20/2014 11:42:08 AM , Rating: 2
Is that you Al Gore?

STRATEGERY!


RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By Arkive on 3/20/2014 11:49:13 AM , Rating: 2

Are you serious? So the teacher has to handle the collection/disbursement of every device each period *and* screen every call for those devices? Why are we supporting this kind of entitlement in kids? If parents need to reach their kids at school there is a protocol for doing so. Jam every damn cell phone in the radius of school property and call it a day.


RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By FITCamaro on 3/20/2014 12:07:33 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously. We survived just fine without cell phones as kids. Todays kids can too.


RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By wordsworm on 3/20/2014 2:27:54 PM , Rating: 2
Kids can survive without them, but cell phones in class can be useful. ie., as a dictionary, doing a little research, etc. Cell phones can be a tool or a nuisance.


RE: How about a dedicated lock box?
By Arkive on 3/20/2014 3:58:28 PM , Rating: 2
Possibly true, but I think you'll be hard-pressed to convince me or anyone with a half a brain that the potential for misuse and distraction don't drastically outweigh the positives.


By wordsworm on 3/20/2014 11:20:22 PM , Rating: 2
Most of the students who used their phones in my classes used them as tools rather than entertainment. But... my classes were all 10 or fewer students.


Tried before, will be defeated.
By Flunk on 3/20/2014 11:01:30 AM , Rating: 2
If they really want to do this they're doing to need to use cell phone jammers. Previous experiences like the iPads used in LA schools show that students will hack around any poorly-conceived control software like this.

If I think back to when I was in school there wasn't a single "protection" they put on the systems we didn't hack around and it's not going to stop.




RE: Tried before, will be defeated.
By TSS on 3/20/2014 11:46:04 AM , Rating: 2
Bearing in mind i'm not a teacher, i say new era new approach.

I went to school before mobiles came ubiqitous. i still remember seeing the first kid on the playground showing off his monochrome nokia with the very first game, Snake, on it. We where amazed! And even then kids failed classes and years because they simply refused to pay attention.

Turning off a smartphone isn't going to make learning french any more or less exciting.

So i say let them keep their smartphones and increase the frequency of tests. Once they start failing them the smart kids will start putting the smartphone away and pay attention simply because they do not feel spening another year in the same class will benifit them. The stupid ones are going to fail anyway. And it'll allow teachers to better make use of the smartphones - why not find a game that's completly in french (like a text RPG) then give students a grade on how fast they can complete the game?

As for me, i've always failed french horribly (had a 2/10 on my final report). The only time i did learn some of it though, is when i met a french guy on MSN zone to talk to (playing age of empires 2 at the time) and i wanted to communicate in his language as his english wasn't all that good. So as far as i'm concirned, forbidding things always comes second to giving a reason to learn.


By Farfignewton on 3/20/2014 12:14:27 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
why not find a game that's completly in french (like a text RPG) then give students a grade on how fast they can complete the game?


I'd suggest extra credit since language isn't the only thing you'd be grading. I've been amassing an impressive record of not-quite-completed games since voodoo castle on the Vic-20. Other than that, it seems potentially very effective.


RE: Tried before, will be defeated.
By Reclaimer77 on 3/20/2014 6:00:51 PM , Rating: 1
Can I just ask a question? Why is it paramount to stop cellphone use in schools?

quote:
And even then kids failed classes and years because they simply refused to pay attention.


Good! That's what SHOULD happen. This idea that kids just absolutely cannot fail in school, that it's a travesty, is why our education system is in the dump.

quote:
Turning off a smartphone isn't going to make learning french any more or less exciting. So i say let them keep their smartphones and increase the frequency of tests. Once they start failing them the smart kids will start putting the smartphone away


Agree.

Schools shouldn't be concerning themselves with curbing cultural trends they don't like. Let kids use whatever they want, if they fail, that's on them.

But of course we can't have that happen. Then the school will get a low "no kid left behind" score or some crap and the Government will take their lunch money or whatever.

This is why we have people with four year degrees delivering pizzas. A dumbass with a degree is still a dumbass.


RE: Tried before, will be defeated.
By wordsworm on 3/20/2014 11:42:57 PM , Rating: 2
Students who fail end up being less productive than those who don't. Failing kids in school has long term negative effects on everyone, the nation, the world, on a variety of levels.

Your education system is in the dump for the same reason as Canada's: teachers have taken over the system with their unions. The unions routinely take students/kids hostage and created a system which cares more about itself and those it serves rather than the students whom they are supposed to serve. A part of the reason for that is that these unions are effectively monopolies.

I used to wonder why trade deficits exist so badly between Asian nations and western nations. One reason I found out while living there, is because shipping is so much cheaper there. Imagine, I could send 20kg of box to British Columbia for around $35. Sending it back to Korea is hundreds of dollars. Why? Because both our nations have allowed these proliferation of monopolistic unions to hijack these industries/services.

Really, if we want to turn things around, we need to get rid of these institutions, or at least allow others to compete with the unions, organized or not. In other words, don't allow a single union to run all the teachers in a state. Allow schools to choose teachers from other unions or individuals who aren't interested in unions. That will go a long way to fixing the educational debacle that both of our nations are experiencing.


RE: Tried before, will be defeated.
By Reclaimer77 on 3/21/2014 5:50:08 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Students who fail end up being less productive than those who don't.


And that's fine. We'll always need janitors, fast food workers, etc etc.


RE: Tried before, will be defeated.
By Piiman on 3/22/2014 12:20:09 PM , Rating: 3
I heard you were a janitor at McDonalds.


By sorry dog on 3/23/2014 12:56:56 PM , Rating: 2
I didn't know Reclaimer is an illegal immigrant?


By Solandri on 3/20/2014 6:29:09 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
So i say let them keep their smartphones and increase the frequency of tests. Once they start failing them the smart kids will start putting the smartphone away and pay attention simply because they do not feel spening another year in the same class will benifit them. The stupid ones are going to fail anyway.

Normally I'd be for this, but I think you give the kids too much credit. The reason they're considered kids and not adults is because they mostly haven't developed the maturity to handle life-altering decisions like this. Their underdeveloped brains are attracted to instantaneous fun even if it causes long-term harm. Kinda like when they rigged monkeys up to a machine which would inject cocaine directly into their bloodstream every time a lever was pressed. The monkeys stopped eating and would just sit there all day pushing the lever until they died.

So an adult has to correct this behavior by laying down some ground rules for the kids. A little less fun in the moment, but in exchange a lifetime of benefit from being educated so you can make smarter choices, get a better job, live a better life.

quote:
As for me, i've always failed french horribly (had a 2/10 on my final report). The only time i did learn some of it though, is when i met a french guy on MSN zone to talk to (playing age of empires 2 at the time) and i wanted to communicate in his language as his english wasn't all that good. So as far as i'm concirned, forbidding things always comes second to giving a reason to learn.

The problem isn't a lack of a reason to learn. The problem is the student doesn't yet realize what that reason to learn is. In your example, you were directly trying to communicate with a French speaker, so you had an immediate reason to motivate you to learn French.

But the more typical case is that you won't encounter an immediate need to know French until you're well into college. e.g. My brother in law did government and constitutional consultation for French-speaking developing countries - basically helped them write their Constitution and laws. He didn't actually need French until he was 2 years into his first job. If he had put off learning French until then, by that time it would've been too late. For kids going down this career path, the reason to learn French is already there (or is going to be there). Some kids are mature enough to realize this and pay attention in class. Others aren't so prescient, incorrectly jump to the conclusion that they're wasting their time, and play games instead of pay attention in class.

Obviously if you can create an immediate desire for the student to learn the material, that's the best motivation. But that's not always possible, so the lack of an immediate need in no way means other teaching methods lack rationale or justification.


You have to be an utter...
By MrBlastman on 3/20/2014 12:59:00 PM , Rating: 2
Jackass to buy your kid a smartphone and let them take it to school. Stupid parents and stupid kids, welcome to the new world.

My daughter is going to hate me when she's a teenager. Too bad. She'll learn to DEAL WITH IT. :)




RE: You have to be an utter...
By Torgog on 3/20/2014 4:47:21 PM , Rating: 2
She probably already does.


RE: You have to be an utter...
By MrBlastman on 3/20/2014 5:37:56 PM , Rating: 3
Aaaand that means I'm doing my job correctly as a parent. :)

Remember, you are a Parent first, foremost and always. You aren't their friend.


RE: You have to be an utter...
By blzd on 3/21/2014 3:55:28 AM , Rating: 2
Yea she can be the only one still using a pen, paper and a soft back dictionary in class.


Great Idea
By mgilbert on 3/20/2014 11:21:02 AM , Rating: 2
I wish someone would come up with an inexpensive jammer. We need those in every school (and movie theater) in the country. Kids are at school to learn - not text, or proselytize, or anything else.




RE: Great Idea
By Etsp on 3/20/2014 11:28:07 AM , Rating: 2
Jammers are illegal. It's not that they are costly to make, it is that they are illegal in public areas.


RE: Great Idea
By mgilbert on 3/20/2014 11:29:33 AM , Rating: 2
I didn't think so, but a quick search proves you indeed correct. That's too bad...


From my experience...
By Torgog on 3/20/2014 12:06:18 PM , Rating: 3
As a high school teacher and school administrator for the past 27 years I've seen the progression of distractions firsthand. Fads come and go, but the infiltration of electronic communication / entertainment / information is unlike anything I've seen. It is by no means a fad. Hence, accepting and utilizing the devices eliminates the predictable resistance that comes with forcing students to part with a device that has become an ingrained part of their daily existence.

There are two approaches to student cell phones that I have seen used successfully, more so when used in conjunction.

1) Train the students. From the start of the school year I trained my students on appropriate use of their devices. There is a time and place each class period for their usage. Each period there is a set countdown to "airplane mode". Students respect my position in the classroom and, hence, respect my rules. Likewise, there are swift consequences for violations of the rule.

2) Embrace the access. I've found ways for students to constructively use their devices as part of lessons, either as a research device or calculator. Students are notified prior to the lesson that devices will be allowed, but only on cue. This means it sits on the desk, but unused until that time.

It takes time to retrain the students on usage in my classroom. What makes it more difficult (but not impossible) are classrooms where there are no rules on the devices. But this is true for any teacher trying to overcome the shortcoming of those teachers with poor classroom management.




ohhh boy
By timoseewho on 3/20/2014 1:26:23 PM , Rating: 3
iSmartKeeper.. so when's apple suing?




So...
By pandemonium on 3/21/2014 3:49:46 AM , Rating: 2
Essentially Seoul has become too lazy to indoctrinate respect within their young generations. That's nice.




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