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Samsung looks forward to a big 2013

Samsung has announced that it expects to earn record profit of $8.3 billion in its most recent quarter. This marks five straight record quarters in a row for Samsung. However, Samsung's record-setting run could unravel in the quarter that ends in March of 2013 due to weaker seasonal demand reports Reuters.

"Investors are a bit concerned that Samsung's momentum may slow in the first half. The smartphone market is unlikely to sustain its strong growth as advanced markets are nearing saturation despite growth in emerging countries," said Kim Sung-soo, a fund manager at LS Asset Management.

Samsung continues to outpace its closest rival, Apple, despite the launch of the iPhone 5. Samsung has seen continued strong sales from the Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note II during Q4.

Galaxy Note II
Galaxy Note II

Reuters does report, however, that shipments of Samsung's Galaxy S III smartphone are likely to have slipped to around 15 million units in the current quarter from 18 million in the quarter that spanned July through September. Analysts believe that the Galaxy Note II sold around 8 million units during the same timeframe.

Samsung predicts that it will increase it smartphone sales by more than one third this year and widen its lead over Apple even further. Samsung predicts it will sell 390 million smartphones in 2013.

Source: Reuters



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right on!
By GulWestfale on 1/8/2013 9:39:38 AM , Rating: 3
this shows that more people are coming to their senses and are turning away from crapple products. well done, samsung!




RE: right on!
By txDrum on 1/8/2013 12:13:50 PM , Rating: 3
I've never actually made an account on dailytech.... I've always just read news and then looked at comments to see if there were any entertaining arguments. But what astounds me is that Android fans/ Apple fans don't want the other to succeed, as if the death of one ecosystem will be good for the consumers of the other.

Competition forces lower prices. Even Apple, who tends to put a premium on their products, has to bend to competition every now and then. They made the ipad mini as a result of competition. Etc. etc. etc.

If Samsung gets 90% market share, that's going to suck for Android fans/consumers. Prices can go up because there's nothing to prevent Samsung from raising their prices due to no alternatives. Consumers seeking a high end phone would basically have to go to Samsung, and be subject to its prices. Same goes for Apple, or Microsoft.

I'm an only Android user. I hated Apple blindly for a while, but had a pretty long discussion with somebody once about Mac v Windows and what each had to offer. Apple isn't for me there, but I see why people buy it. As for phones, I've had an Evo 4G for two years, and I'm switching to an HTC 8X as I'm bored with Android and iOS. They aren't bad, I'm just bored. And if any consumer had sense, you'd want all three to thrive, because it forces lower prices and more innovation if you want to stay in line with the competition.


RE: right on!
By Tony Swash on 1/8/2013 1:45:09 PM , Rating: 1
Personally I think the smart mobile device world in say, five years, will be one where both Android and Apple flourish. I think Android will continue to fragment as it spreads. I think some sort of break will occur between Google and Samsung. I think Apple will continue to grow for quite a while and will be very big and very very rich for a very long time.

I think that the Apple platform out performs the Android by at least four to one (using metrics like developer revenues, ad revenues, web usage, enterprise/government/education adoption rates, etc) so that a world with Apple at 20% market share and Android at 80% is actually a world of platform parity.

All of this will be very, very good for consumers. People will have a wide choice. Those who like Apple will have a vastly profitable and healthy Apple churning out products and those who don't will have lots of alternatives almost all Android of one flavor or another.

Everybody should be happy. Except of course they won't be.


RE: right on!
By retrospooty on 1/8/2013 2:29:11 PM , Rating: 3
Wow, a rare balanced post from Tony? Awesome. Did you make a new years resolution, or are you just having an off day? ;)

The only thing I would add is that the dev. rev. on Android will grow. The more and more phones out there, the more things tip in its direction. At some point parity will occur if things keep going the way they are now.


RE: right on!
By xti on 1/8/2013 3:02:49 PM , Rating: 1
yeah, and he got -1 instantly. We had it on a silver platter people...but noooo misery loves company.


RE: right on!
By retrospooty on 1/8/2013 5:17:01 PM , Rating: 3
That is becasue no-one reads it, they just down vote it.

That would be the problem with being completely biased 100% of the time LOL.


RE: right on!
By flyingpants1 on 1/8/2013 11:48:44 PM , Rating: 2
Think he accidentally signed in on the wrong account ;)


RE: right on!
By Samus on 1/8/2013 3:28:08 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, people want Apple to fail because they aren't innovating anymore. iOS doesn't even have desktop widgets for Christ sake. The whole operating system looks like it is a remnant of 2007 and barely has a UI capacity beyond BBOS5.

Yet Apple keeps putting it on luxurious hardware. Android is light years ahead of iOS in UI, functionality and capability. Because it IS a free, open source ecosystem it allows customization by manufactures. This isn't 'fragmentation' this is innovation. HTC Sense, Samsung TouchWiz, etc, are all innovative UI's. Practically every manufacture (including Apple) has adopted something from HTC Sense.

Everytime I show my GSIII to someone who is on their second or third iPhone they are just completely blown away by the fact they have been crippled by their iPhone. I'm talking business users who got on the iPhone bandwagon because the media and sales people at AT&T pushed them in that direction.

This is the same reason Windows Phone doesn't succeed. It's quite capable (way more than the iPhone) at saving time with UI gestures and live tiles, but the powers that be in marketing continue to push Apple.


RE: right on!
By messele on 1/11/2013 6:11:26 PM , Rating: 2
On the other hand people who want to get actual productive work done still do it on proper laptops. No matter how much crap is spouted about split screen apps, and openness, and freedom, and multitasking the simple fact is only a die-hard nerd who doesn't have to worry about deadlines is going to bother about any of that crap.

Yeah it's all nice stuff to show off to other nerds but some of us have a living to make and none of that crap on a phone matters.


RE: right on!
By Mint on 1/8/2013 2:17:14 PM , Rating: 2
I'm an Android guy who's never owned an iPhone, but it's unquestionably the best small phone on the market. If that's what you want, then it's among the best in build quality, weight, speed, stability, thinness, and battery life.

I laugh at people wasting their money on overpriced Apple products like their non-air notebooks, desktops, and the iPad (okay, the retina display was exclusive about 8 months, and I could understand buying it then).

But the iPhone? I just can't hate on it.


RE: right on!
By retrospooty on 1/8/2013 2:22:47 PM , Rating: 2
"iPhone.... unquestionably the best small phone on the market."

I agree with you for the most part. It has the best GPU, great build quality, and the power to battery life is great... But a few exceptions. If you want SD card, removable battery, hdmi out, or NFC or any of the other things you cant get with an iPhone its simply not.


RE: right on!
By TakinYourPoints on 1/9/2013 3:47:44 AM , Rating: 2
If we're talking about "indispensable" iDevices then I'd actually have to go with the iPad.

The iPhone is excellent hardware, a leading device in several ways, but I totally understand why someone would want a phone with a larger screen, totally legit reason to want something else. The iPad is a different story, it has the best tablet hardware with the best tablet optimized software library. Nothing else is anywhere close right now.

One of the more common "Apple/X" combinations I see outside of "PC desktop and Macbook Pro/Air" is "iPad and Android/WP phone". Someone I know just paired a Nexus 4 and an iPad 4, and it works great. They get access to all of the great iOS apps on one device and a great inexpensive phone on the other. Win-win.


I hate you samsung
By xti on 1/8/2013 10:07:02 AM , Rating: 2
I should have waited ~2 months more when I bought the GS3 and gotten then Note 2 instead.

Lebron is laughing AT ME in those commercials.




RE: I hate you samsung
By Mint on 1/8/2013 11:02:47 AM , Rating: 4
That's not as bad as what I did. I bought a Note 1 (used) 2 months before the Note 2 was announced.

In the end I bought the Note 2 anyway and sold the Note 1 for almost as much as I bought it for, so it wasn't a total loss. It's an incredible phone. I have zero desire for a tablet with this in my pocket.


RE: I hate you samsung
By retrospooty on 1/8/2013 11:34:17 AM , Rating: 2
The note 2 is nice... But when I go to upgrade my S3 this summer, this one looks really sweet. Hope it makes its way to the US

http://phandroid.com/2012/12/27/zte-grand-s-unveil...

5 inch 1080p screen
S4 Pro quad CPU
2gb ram
13mp cam
SD expandion
2,500mAh battery

All that and its only 6.9mm - thinner than iPhone5


RE: I hate you samsung
By mackx on 1/8/2013 1:06:33 PM , Rating: 2
nice but i'd prefer a 3000 or more mah battery. 1080p with 2500 might not last as long as you'd like in some situations? probably fine 90% of the time though


RE: I hate you samsung
By Mint on 1/8/2013 1:38:03 PM , Rating: 2
The stylus, battery, and OLED screen make the Note 2 what it is.

I know the stylus isn't for everyone, but it's incredibly useful for notes/equations/sketches, and on top of that I've used it with RDP to comfortably control a 16-core machine. There's no turning back now, and I'll want it in every phone and hybrid notebook I buy from now on.

OLED can be oversaturated, but Samsung put in options to tone it down for the Note 2 and be fairly accurate (CNET did measurements). And boy are those blacks amazing...


Concerns
By Scootie on 1/8/2013 2:52:13 PM , Rating: 2
"Investors are a bit concerned that Samsung's momentum may slow in the first half."

I dont know exactly what to feel about these ... investors, pity maybe?! Why the hell are they concerned that much when they make the same money as previous quarter? The hell, $8.3 billion is a LOT OF MONEY!!! Well, I guess rich investors get richer cause many of us love this toys so much.

On another. I'm neither an Apple nor Android fan, used both os's till now. Since a few years commenters on dailytech keep saying that competition on the market is good(with which I agree) and that prices go down. What prices people? Since the first Iphone came and the competition woke up I never seen prices of these new devices to go down. Sure you can buy them cheaper after a few months as second hands(as I always did) but get your heads out of your a$$es. Since the smartphone war being the prices have been at the same level and will never go down.




RE: Concerns
By ven1ger on 1/10/2013 3:22:50 PM , Rating: 2
Prices do come down but not for the leading edge stuff. Once other companies start making the products months later, you see the competition driving the lower prices.

Now if you're talking about cutting edge stuff or new gadgets and widget or whatever, you're always going to be paying a premium to have the latest or to showoff to the rest of the block.

When Google jumped into the fray with its own Nexus line, a lot of people jumped at the chance to get some good tech at a lot cheaper prices, and I don't see them squawking about the cost though a lot of people did squawk about missing things but that's the price you pay, you want something better or with more features then there are options at higher costs.

I look at it as there are many, many options available for the consumers, you want cheap go for devices with less features or not cutting edge, those are available, you want features be willing to pay for it.

I don't even own a smartphone, just a regular non-texting cell phone. I'm just doing research until I'm ready to take the plunge or need to update my daughter's smartphone. Oh yeah, I bought my daughter's smartphone for $50 from a co-worker and that was worth it.


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