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Rumored specs turned out to be wildly inaccurate

Samsung just pulled the wraps off its follow-up to the incredibly popular Galaxy S4: the Galaxy S5.
 
Unfortunately, the Galaxy S5 isn’t quite as spectacular as the rumored specs lead us to believe. Instead of a 2560x1440 display, the Galaxy S5 carries on with a 1080p Super AMOLED display, albeit now measuring 5.1”. Taking a cue from Apple, the Galaxy S5 incorporates a fingerprint scanner right into the Home button (the home button is flanked by a pair of capacitive keys). The fingerprint scanner can unlock the smartphone and also be used to authenticate purchases through a partnership with PayPal.
 
For those hoping for a metal body this time around (a la the iPhone 5S or HTC One), you’ll again be disappointed. The Galaxy S5 still carries a primarily dimpled plastic backing. But while the heavy use of plastic may be a downer for some, it should be noted that the Galaxy S5 gains IP67-rated water and dust resistance (the phone can be submerged up to one meter for up to 30 minutes).

 
 
The Galaxy S5 has a few more tricks up its sleeve including a heart rate monitor, 16MP camera with 4K recording and HDR processing capabilities, and a 2MP camera gracing the front. Processor-wise, the smartphone is equipped with a 2.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800 processor paired with 2GB of RAM. A larger 2800 mAh battery promises 20 percent greater battery life for those that can’t readily reach a wall outlet to plug a cable into the new USB 3.0 charging/sync port.

 
Other features include 802.11ac 2x2 MIMO Wi-FI, Bluetooth 4.0, LTE (Category 4). Storage capacities are 16GB or 32GB, and storage can be expanded via a microSD card (up to 64GB).
 
The Galaxy S5 this time around will be offered in black, blue, gold, and white. The Galaxy S5 will ship with Android 4.4.2 KitKat when it launches this April on all major U.S. carriers.

Source: Samsung



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Disappointing
By themaster08 on 2/24/2014 2:49:57 PM , Rating: 5
This is supposed to be Samsung's flagship. They already have a phone which is better, both in specs and aesthetics - the Note 3.




RE: Disappointing
By tayb on 2/24/2014 2:59:10 PM , Rating: 1
Does it have the exact same processor? I thought the Note 3 was actually faster...


RE: Disappointing
By SublimeSimplicity on 2/24/2014 3:13:31 PM , Rating: 4
The S is their sales leader, not their flagship.

The Malibu is Chevy's sales leader... the Corvette is their flagship.


RE: Disappointing
By Sunrise089 on 2/24/14, Rating: 0
RE: Disappointing
By SPOOFE on 2/24/2014 3:46:39 PM , Rating: 2
I do believe the point was that "flagship" and "sales leader" aren't the same.


RE: Disappointing
By atechfan on 2/24/2014 3:19:30 PM , Rating: 4
I find water and dust resistance more compelling than a higher res screen.


RE: Disappointing
By themaster08 on 2/24/2014 3:22:00 PM , Rating: 2
Then perhaps the Sony Xperia Z line of phones may appeal to you.


RE: Disappointing
By atechfan on 2/24/2014 3:25:35 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, they are one of the more compelling Android phones. I think Samsung is making a good choice copying that feature.


RE: Disappointing
By Reclaimer77 on 2/24/2014 4:52:39 PM , Rating: 2
They are bringing that feature from their Galaxy S4 Active line, NOT copying something from Sony.

But I don't blame you, hardly anyone knew the Active even existed.


RE: Disappointing
By hughlle on 2/24/2014 7:00:30 PM , Rating: 1
Ah right, so they're not really bringing anything new to this generation. Gotcha


RE: Disappointing
By atechfan on 2/24/2014 8:22:54 PM , Rating: 2
I didn't mean copy as in "Samsung sucks, they can't do anything original" but copy as in "Have a similar feature, not claiming Sony invented it".


RE: Disappointing
By EasyC on 2/27/2014 7:41:16 AM , Rating: 2
That's because the Active wasn't water resistant. They said it was, but many users were experiencing the opposite.

I can attest to Sony's line being water resistant. I had one and did the whole phone in a drink trick a couple times.


RE: Disappointing
By valkator on 2/24/2014 5:34:24 PM , Rating: 2
It isn't copying when you make a device water resistant. Been doing that for many years. Not an innovation so shut up.


RE: Disappointing
By Bateluer on 2/25/2014 7:25:25 AM , Rating: 2
Unless Apple's next iPhone is waterproof/dust resistant, then Apple will have invented the waterproof phone and can now sue Sony, others, for infringing on their invention.


RE: Disappointing
By CZroe on 2/24/2014 6:47:32 PM , Rating: 2
As a Note 3 owner myself who wanted a non-existent water-resistant Note 3 "Active" (like the Galaxy S4 Active) for my motorcycle handlebar mount, I can still see a niche for it that the Note 3 didn't quite fill for me.


RE: Disappointing
By stm1185 on 2/24/2014 11:00:31 PM , Rating: 2
Time to sell your Samsung stock! The anti Samsung people are now outnumbering the pro Samsung in comments sections. Its the next HTC.


RE: Disappointing
By kickoff on 2/25/2014 9:46:56 AM , Rating: 3
I can't possibly state how disappointed I am with Samsung over this. Release. To me, it was a big ZERO. They might as well have put a new cover on the G4.

Mark my words, the stock price will suffer and someone at the top will lose their job over this one.


RE: Disappointing
By robinthakur on 2/26/2014 4:36:59 AM , Rating: 2
When i read this I actually yawned. Other than the nice perforated leather-look plastic back, the rest of it is truly meh worthy. It reminds me of the direction of the mobile market before Apple changed it in 2007: Coasting. I can see the iPhone 6 doing very well with no competition at the high end other than the Note 3 and the 5S. I bet there are cheers from Cupertino at the moment. I'm not sure why Samsung think they can get away with this laziness unless it is because they think that S4 disappointed sales wise, and the sector as it stands does not merit huge investment in new tech and they are shifting their flagship to be the Note/Tizen going forward.


RE: Disappointing
By turkeycusser2 on 2/27/2014 10:18:29 PM , Rating: 2
Marked.


So it's pretty much a Note 3?
By Tequilasunriser on 2/24/2014 2:52:59 PM , Rating: 2
Same processor, same resolution, less RAM. It seems like it's just a slightly smaller Note 3 with a finger print scanner.




RE: So it's pretty much a Note 3?
By Mint on 2/24/2014 3:57:21 PM , Rating: 1
The Note and the S have always been related, with the Note's higher price and bigger size allowing for a faster CPU and more RAM. I think Samsung did all they could be expected to with the waterproofing, fingerprint scanner, and better camera.

Smartphones don't really have much room to improve anymore. The iPhone is the best small phone, the Note series is the best phone with a stylus, and everyone else is converging on a similar design in the 5" sweet spot.


RE: So it's pretty much a Note 3?
By Reclaimer77 on 2/24/2014 6:10:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The iPhone is the best small phone,


Not as long as it runs iOS it's not.


RE: So it's pretty much a Note 3?
By Mint on 2/25/2014 5:08:20 AM , Rating: 2
I was thinking about hardware (CPU/GPU, battery life, and touchy-feely), but I'll agree with your assessment.


RE: So it's pretty much a Note 3?
By CZroe on 2/24/2014 6:57:28 PM , Rating: 2
I think they are trying to position the more profitable Note series as their flagship series instead of the S series by eliminating the expectation that they will trade leading spec positions within a generation.

For people who weren't interested in a phablet it only makes it appear that their flagship was late to the SnapDragon 800 party. Others paired that with water resistance (Sony) and fingerprint scanning (HTC) before they did.


RE: So it's pretty much a Note 3?
By CZroe on 2/26/2014 8:26:37 AM , Rating: 2
According to other sources, this is a SnapDragon 801. DailyTech: Fix you shiz.


nice
By GulWestfale on 2/24/2014 2:45:05 PM , Rating: 3
i like it. this may be the phone that will finally make me upgrade from my galaxy note.

it's a good thing that they stayed with a plastic back; it means you get a micro SD slot and swappable battery. plus. it won't scratch the way metal phones do.

the only thing i wish there was more of is RAM.




RE: nice
By McGaiden on 2/24/2014 2:49:57 PM , Rating: 2
The only thing I wish was that they actually made a phone worth upgrading to.

S3 --> S3 was not a huge jump but a lot better than this.


RE: nice
By dbwells on 2/24/2014 5:21:58 PM , Rating: 2
It was a really small jump, actually. I could hardly tell the difference.


RE: nice
By majorpain on 2/24/2014 5:51:24 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, this one still doesn't freeze my eyes over S3. Quite happy with my S3.


Waterproofing nice for the accident prone
By foxalopex on 2/24/2014 3:23:53 PM , Rating: 2
The waterproof feature is nice for folks who are accident prone, although I wonder if this means folks will be fishing this one out of the toilet. XD




RE: Waterproofing nice for the accident prone
By atechfan on 2/24/2014 3:35:06 PM , Rating: 4
There are way more usage scenarios where being waterproof is useful than just dropping it in toilet. I kayak, go to the beach, hike and do lots of other activities where getting wet is unavoidable. My GoPro is great for kayaking, but for the other uses, a camera phone is more convenient.


By retrospooty on 2/25/2014 10:00:04 AM , Rating: 2
Yup. Not that it's always "unavoidable" but having and using your phone on those occasions is an asspain. Now you dont have to worry about it. Or something for most people, having it on the table and someones drink spills, or needing to use it outside while in fairly heavy rain, or dropping in a puddle.

I dont think this is it for the S5 though. I am betting we see a metal "S5 Pro" with 2560x1440 screen and a Snapdragon 805 when the 805 is available in a few months.


Nice specs, ugly to look at
By xstylus on 2/24/2014 3:21:31 PM , Rating: 2
The specs are nice, but the phone itself is rather ordinary and ugly.

I think LG is onto something with their G-Flex, but it doesn't have a replaceable battery or a microSD.

I think I'll sit this one out. My Galaxy S3 is still doing the job nicely.




RE: Nice specs, ugly to look at
By coburn_c on 2/24/2014 10:24:13 PM , Rating: 2
I think LG is in the zone right now, design wise. I did just buy a G2 over the flex because of the horrible screen issues, but even the G2 is better than Samsung's offering today. More battery, more screen, more design, less gimmick.


By flyingpants1 on 2/26/2014 12:05:53 AM , Rating: 2
I agree. The market is leveling off. There is almost no reason to upgrade from Galaxy S2 (4.5" LTE version). Screen size and LTE were the main attractions.

Screen size: 5" is my limit, anything more and one-handed use becomes difficult.
Resolution/PPI: I'm currently using a 960x540 4.3" LCD, it's great.
LTE: I have 40mbit LTE in my area, I don't need faster. Nobody can afford to use data at these insane rates anyway.
Camera: 13MP is quite a lot already.

Things that actually need improvement:
Camera: Optics, sensor size, ISP quality.
Battery: Need 10 hours of screen time. Still waiting for a Droid RAZR MAXX with 4400mAh.
Speakers: I will never pay full price for a phone again unless it has front speakers. I like to be able to hear stuff.


64 or 128 sd cards?
By BillyBatson on 2/25/2014 4:26:21 PM , Rating: 2
I read elsewhere that the S5 can officially support 128gb or additional storage. Is it 64gb or 128gb?




RE: 64 or 128 sd cards?
By dxf2891 on 2/26/2014 1:40:42 PM , Rating: 2
It's 128gb. Sandisk just released a 128gb micro SD card

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IIJ6W4S/ref=oh...


RE: 64 or 128 sd cards?
By BillyBatson on 3/3/2014 7:10:35 PM , Rating: 2
I know sandisk released the card but DT says 64... I read elsewhere that it is 128 which would make sense.


GS5 vs Note 3
By dxf2891 on 2/25/2014 2:12:55 PM , Rating: 2
Processor: Goes to GS5 with a 2.83 quadcore
Ram: Goes to Note 3 with 3 gb
Screen Size: Goes to Note 3 with 5.7"
Rom: Tie at 32gb
Expandable memory: Goes to GS5 with 128gb
Battery: Goes to GS5 with a 2800ahm
OS: Tie with KitKat
Aesthetics: GS5 with the dust/water resistance*

Overall the GS5 slightly out paces the Note 3, but when you factor in cost and other variables, I'd say they are about even. Now when the Note 4 comes out......

*Resistance does not mean proof. Ressistance means you can use it in the rain, proof means you can use it in the pool.




RE: GS5 vs Note 3
By flyingpants1 on 2/25/2014 11:43:05 PM , Rating: 2
It's not 2.8Ghz.. It's just slightly faster than the Note, which means nothing in the face of thermal limitations and software optimization.

The Note 3 battery is larger at 3200mAh.

It doesn't make a difference anyway. They are very similar in specs and performance, but the Note 3 is for a different market, it's a large phablet with a stylus.


HTC One wins again
By techxx on 2/24/2014 3:04:28 PM , Rating: 3
Looks like the new HTC One might be the phone to get this year!




Who expected metal?
By Milliamp on 2/25/2014 7:52:25 AM , Rating: 2
The plastic back has been trademark of the galaxy line. Most metal phones don't have a removable battery. Who ever expected s5 to be a metal phone was probably an idiot.




By flatrock on 2/25/2014 12:49:09 PM , Rating: 2
They released the S4 with the Snapdragon 600. The Note 3 came out later with the Snapdragon 800. That left them with their large but still mainstream phone the S4 using the 600 while competing with other phones with the Snapdragon 800. No wonder sales have been a bit disappointing and LG which had been struggling has done well with the LG G2 (Snapdragon 800).

So Samsung desperately needs a new S series phone that is competitive if not better than the competition. The S5 uses the Snapdragon 801 which is a higher clocked 800. Add a fingerprint scanner, improved camera, water and dust resistance, increased LTE speeds, larger battery (still smaller than LG G2), and various new software features and it's a rather significant upgrade to the S4. It's specs aren't nearly as huge of an upgrade over the Note 3, but the Note 3 isn't their mainstream phone.

The question is can they position this to be a significant feature boost over their competition, or will they just have a tiny spec advantage until the 805 comes out and then get hammered by their competition again.

I don't think that Samsung can continue to stagger upgrades to the S-series with the Note series, especially when it leaves them behind in specs during the holiday shopping season.




GS5 vs Note 3
By dxf2891 on 2/25/2014 2:11:57 PM , Rating: 2
Processor: Goes to GS5 with a 2.83 quadcore
Ram: Goes to Note 3 with 3 gb
Screen Size: Goes to Note 3 with 5.7"
Rom: Tie at 32gb
Expandable memory: Goes to GS5 with 128gb
Battery: Goes to GS5 with a 2800ahm
OS: Tie with KitKat
Aesthetics: GS5 with the dust/water resistance*

Overall the GS5 slightly out paces the Note 3, but when you factor in cost and other variables, I'd say they are about even. Now when the Note 4 comes out......

*Resistance does not mean proof. Ressistance means you can use it in the rain, proof means you can use it in the pool.




5th time's a charm
By Sivar on 2/25/2014 10:52:04 AM , Rating: 1
With all the problems and history of poor quality, I am surprised they can continue to market under the same "Galaxy" name. Even the first model, which established a brand, was terrible beyond believe. It's GPS didn't even function!




5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By aurareturn on 2/24/14, Rating: -1
RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By amanojaku on 2/24/2014 2:56:14 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
When will the screen size war end? It's getting ridiculous. I thought my Galaxy Nexus's screen was too big. Whoever buys these phones are idiots in my opinion.
The same could be said for screens that are too small. What's dumb to you is a necessity for someone else. Offering multiple screen sizes is a benefit, not a curse.
quote:
#1: It'll be extremely hard and dangerous to use while driving. Let's be real, most of us will pick up and use our phones while driving even though it's illegal.
You just said people who buy these are idiots, then you condone driving while using a phone...
quote:
#2: For people like me who take the bus, a 5.1 inch screen is useless because I have to use one hand to hold onto the pole.
So sit down, or wait until you get off the bus. I've never seen anyone use a phone one-handed without switching to two hands at one point. And I live in a city where 50% of the phones are tiny iPhones.
quote:
#3: How can this possibly be comfortable in your pocket? Is everyone 6'8 here?
Then buy a smaller phone. Again, no one is forcing you to buy this. You don't seem to understand the concept of choice.


By atechfan on 2/24/2014 3:28:14 PM , Rating: 2
I find 7 inches to be just about the right compromise between screen size and carriability.


RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By EasyC on 2/24/2014 3:40:21 PM , Rating: 3
To his credit, there aren't an abundance of high performing reasonable size phones.

Sony did great with their Z1 Compact, but it's not really available yet.


RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By SPOOFE on 2/24/2014 4:51:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
To his credit, there aren't an abundance of high performing reasonable size phones.


Uhhh.... The iPhone?


RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By inighthawki on 2/24/2014 8:54:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
To his credit, there aren't an abundance of high performing reasonable size phones.


By EasyC on 2/25/2014 6:05:26 AM , Rating: 2
This, and some people, like myself, enjoy technological freedom.... so that isn't really an option.

Besides, the iPhone, while small... sucks to hold for extended periods of time. I suppose a case could cure that.


RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By SPOOFE on 2/25/2014 4:55:30 PM , Rating: 2
There certainly is an abundance of iPhones. Dud you mean a broad variety of phones?


By inighthawki on 2/25/2014 5:30:07 PM , Rating: 2
I assumed that was incredibly obvious. Is English not your first language? Because I don't know how else you could infer something else from that statement. Why would the number of iPhones in existence relate to a person's preference for smaller vs larger screen sizes?

That's like saying "Oh you don't like the larger screen of a Note 3? You could always choose between an iPhone, an iPhone, an iPhone, or an iPhone."


By ritualm on 2/24/2014 3:01:07 PM , Rating: 4
#1. It's not, when you're already taking such a big gamble over your life - and those of others around you - doing something this foolish while driving.

#2. Wait, this is a negative?

#3. Stop wearing extra-tight jeans.


RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By retrospooty on 2/24/2014 3:39:59 PM , Rating: 2
So..... Buy a phone with a smaller screen. Options are good. One size doest fit all. Obviously alot of people like this size, some like smaller, some like larger. Why rant about screensize?


RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By tonyswash on 2/24/2014 3:46:33 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
So..... Buy a phone with a smaller screen. Options are good. One size doest fit all. Obviously alot of people like this size, some like smaller, some like larger. Why rant about screensize?


I agree. It's good that everyone is catered for with so many phones in so many configurations, so everybody should be happy, but oddly they are not.


RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By StevoLincolnite on 2/24/2014 6:07:28 PM , Rating: 2
Not for everyone it's not.

Got big hands? The iPhone isn't ideal.
Got poor eyesight? Bigger screens help with that.
Want to watch a movie/tv show on the bus? Bigger screens are better.


By SPOOFE on 2/24/2014 6:39:11 PM , Rating: 1
Your comment looks ridiculous in context of the original complaint about screens being too big.


RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By tonyswash on 2/24/14, Rating: 0
RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By amanojaku on 2/24/2014 8:03:01 PM , Rating: 3
Funny, if you bothered to read the links I posted you would realize that I am not the one criticizing Apple's lack of choices. iPhone users are the ones criticizing the lack of choices.

For the record, I don't own a smartphone, so I don't care who uses what. I just get tired of reading your bullshit.


By SPOOFE on 2/24/2014 8:49:23 PM , Rating: 2
I bothered to read the links you posted. It's a lot of speculation and hearsay, but no real hard data. The Forbes link discusses how it could be very lucrative of Apple to take some large-screen marketshare. We got close in your last link - which consists of a poll - but if you look beyond the poll results you'll see that A: some people actually wanted the old, SMALLER screen, and B: a lot of the responses desiring a larger screen merely wanted a SLIGHTLY larger screen, like 4.3".

So I reject the "iPhone users are the ones criticizing the lack of choices" as any sort of significant statement. Sure, of the tens of millions of happy iPhone owners, you may be able to find a few complaining. But your links are hardly conclusive on the matter.


By StormyKnight on 2/24/2014 11:31:59 PM , Rating: 2
I actually agree with Tony here. Basically, the market bears choice. If the market is buying phones with 5"+ screens, wouldn't it make sense for a manufacturer to supply them?

Conversely, if a manufacturer is supplying phones with 7" or 8" screens and only a few to none are buying them, wouldn't it make sense to stop supplying them?

Just because a few of you think it's stupid to have a phone with a 5.1" screen doesn't mean nobody will buy one. All you can say it doesn't work for you and you will find something that will. Everyone has a preference. If it isn't for you, that is all you have to say and leave it at that.


By retrospooty on 2/25/2014 7:46:51 AM , Rating: 5
This one is very telling to me... http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=16323...

It's not some blogger or one article, its a poll from an Apple fansite . 25% of respondents on this Apple fansite say 4 inches is good. 75% want bigger.

Of everyone I have talked to that was tied into the Apple ecosystem and moved on, it wasn't because they were tired of the "walled garden" or wanted some other feature Apple didnt support, it was all about the screen size. Anecdotal, yes but extremely consistent.


By jimbojimbo on 2/25/2014 4:40:15 PM , Rating: 1
People love bitching and when there are answers to what they're bitching about they'll gladly ignore them so they can continue bitching. It's irrational.


RE: 5.1inch screen is ridiculously dumb
By FITCamaro on 2/25/2014 9:48:03 AM , Rating: 1
My Note 2 fits in one hand.


By jannatul18 on 2/28/2014 1:54:54 AM , Rating: 2
I am agree with you, my note is far better than this one. Despite color changing there is nothing special to look.


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