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Samsung prepares to take on the existing iPhone 5S and the upcoming 4.7" iPhone 6

After weeks of leaks, the Samsung Galaxy Alpha smartphone has officially been announced. The Galaxy Alpha represents a new design language for Samsung’s smartphone family, and will be extended to the upcoming Galaxy Note 4 judging by the leaked photos of that 5.7” device.
 
As we’ve already learned, the Galaxy Alpha sports a 4.7” 720p display, an Octacore Exynos processor (Quad 1.8GHz + Quad 1.3GHz), 2GB of RAM, 32GB of internal storage (there is no microSD expansion slot), fingerprint sensor, 12MP rear camera, and 2.1MP front-facing camera. The smartphone also supports 802.11ac, Bluetooth 4.0 LE, NFC and USB 2.0 connectivity.
 
Compared to the Galaxy S5’s all-plastic construction, the Galaxy Alpha uses an aluminum frame and a removable plastic back. Behind that back cover is an 1,860 mAh battery which is 940 mAh less than the Galaxy S5.

 
When it comes to dimensions, the leaks got it right: the Galaxy Alpha is indeed lighter and thinner than the iPhone 5S, weighing in at 4.05 ounces and measuring 6.7mm thick.
 
The Samsung Galaxy Alpha will launch early next month in Black, Blue, White, Silver, and Gold. Pricing is not available at this time.


Updated 8/14/2014 @ 8:56AM
 
GSM Arena has posted a 5-page, hands-on preview of the Galaxy Alpha.

Source: Samsung



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Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By jabber on 8/13/2014 8:42:24 AM , Rating: 3
For me it's the nicest size and its a shame they are getting rare.

Disappointed to hear that the Nexus 6 may well be a phablet phone. Was hoping for a smaller size.




RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/13/2014 8:48:21 AM , Rating: 2
It looks damn near perfect to me. I don't really need a new smartphone (even though I've had mine for two years), but this is calling out to me. I'm personally not a fan of the 5.5" and greater phablets, so like you, I'm glad that those of us who prefer smaller devices are still being catered to.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/13/2014 9:19:49 AM , Rating: 5
Gotta love free markets.

Apple is responding to market pressure to provide a larger sized iPhone.

Meanwhile Samsung is responding to market pressure from those who want a smaller sized premium high-end phone.

I know I'm gonna be trolled for saying this, but this really does look damned compelling for a 4.7 incher. A Google Play Edition would make it pretty much perfect.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/13/2014 9:35:50 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
A Google Play Edition would make it pretty much perfect.


You took the words right out of my mouth.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/13/2014 9:54:43 AM , Rating: 2
I hope this phone finally puts to rest the ridiculous urban legend about removable batteries.

Here we have a phone that's thinner and lighter than the iPhone, with way smaller bezels than the iPhone, and the removable battery is still much larger even with a screen increase of only .7"'s.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Chaser on 8/14/2014 8:06:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I hope this phone finally puts to rest the ridiculous urban legend about removable batteries.
Right? My LG G3 can go a day and a half from a single charge. while it has a removable battery I won't be wasting the money buying one or the time carrying and charging one.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By quiksilvr on 8/13/2014 10:11:27 AM , Rating: 3
It is a nice phone however I am getting tired of Samsung holding their phones back. It's pretty obvious that this phone was designed mainly to take on the iPhone. If this is the case, why not ensure that this phone is superior to it in EVERY way? Why not put the same camera on the Galaxy S5 on this? Why not make it 1080p? Why not make it LTE-Advanced with a Snapdragon 805 and 3GB of ram? Why not make it micro USB 3.0 (USB 3.0 allows higher amps so even if the NAND on-board cant utilize the speed, the battery can definitely utilize the charge time)? And on top of all this, why not make it waterproof?

It is a solid phone but it is in no way worthy of its name if it barely matches the specs of its predecessor that came out four months ago.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/13/14, Rating: 0
RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By quiksilvr on 8/13/2014 10:40:16 AM , Rating: 2
But we know that spec wise the iPhone will definitely outclass this device in resolution, battery size and camera. It's pretty clear here too that because they went the metallic route that they are cutting costs by gimping the specs and functionality. No microSD card slot? Seriously? Every Samsung phone in existence has a microSD card slot, even their keyboard toss-away phones.

So while I agree that iPhone definitely held back in the past just to justify the next year model, I don't see that the case anymore. Samsung already took the foresight to even make such a phone right before the iPhone 6 launch; I'm surprised they aren't going all out to ensure their dominance in the market and proving that with the smaller screen size, there are no sacrifices.

Also price wise this phone to be exactly the same subsidized $199 contract nonsense price we still see here in the States (at least at launch), regardless of specs, features and operating system.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By quiksilvr on 8/13/2014 10:43:23 AM , Rating: 2
A correction. The Samsung Galaxy Alpha will indeed have LTE-Advanced on-board, my mistake.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/13/2014 10:59:36 AM , Rating: 5
Why are we all assuming this is in some response to Apple or it's supposed to "compete" with the iPhone 6?

I think that's complete presumption. Misguided.

If you want the iPhone6, hey great, go buy that. I would buy 20 Alpha's before I spent my money on a single iPhone.

This is a nice 4.7" phone, but it's not meant to be a halo phone. If you want a halo phone, a phone with absolutely ZERO compromises and the best hardware possible and all the everything bla bla bla, then Samsung obviously wants you to buy a Galaxy S5 or a Note 4.

Also it seems clear from the commercial in this article, Samsung is aiming directly for the female demographic with this release more so than their others. Women don't care about giant phones or their specs, generally. So this is a demographic that perhaps they're now trying to serve better than they have in the past.

Most Samsung commercials focus on the screen size and other utility factors of the devices. This is the first Samsung commericial I can remember where they're obviously stating "buy this because it's sexy, thin, and small. Look ladies, it even accessorizes your handbags and jewelry."

Seriously go watch it again. We, of the spec-detail lunatic fringe, are clearly NOT the target.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By mik123 on 8/13/2014 4:29:05 PM , Rating: 2
Then it better cost significantly less than the iPhone 5s, because every girl I know will choose the iPhone, at the same price.
Note I said 5s, not 6, so this might be hard for Samsung to do once 6 comes out.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/13/2014 4:43:22 PM , Rating: 2
How many girls you know buy their iPhone 5s's unlocked?

The "cost" of this phone wont matter, because most everyone goes the subsidy route.

$99 - $199 with 2 year contract, all day long baby.

Also why should a new phone with way more features and a way better OS cost less than like a year old iPhone exactly?


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By mik123 on 8/13/2014 5:17:00 PM , Rating: 2
It might be better than 5s, so technically, it shouldn't cost less, but my point is, at equal price (with or without contract) every girl I know would choose the iPhone.

I was in Starbucks this morning - every single girl there had an iPhone. For them, a phone = iPhone.

I have a gf, two sisters and a niece - they had iPhones for years, and they actively put pressure on me to get one (instead of my S4), because they all talk on FaceTime, and send group text messages that my S4 can't decipher. I swear, I hate iOS, but with so much "peer pressure" I might just cave in and get the 5.5" iPhone.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Spuke on 8/13/2014 6:21:21 PM , Rating: 2
And every girl I know (except one) has a SGS of some type (mostly SGS3's). All anecdotal and irrelevant.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By hughlle on 8/14/2014 9:37:58 AM , Rating: 2
A bit over a year ago I visited a cookery school and all i heard from almost every girl there at the time was BBM this and BBM that. surely all women must use blackberries.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Mint on 8/14/2014 11:39:53 AM , Rating: 2
Actual cost does matter to the carriers.

Just a few days ago DT posted an article showing how buyers were pushed to buy Samsung devices. No doubt in my mind that Samsung is giving carriers higher profit margins than Apple and even other Android phones.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/14/2014 12:15:25 PM , Rating: 3
People are not being "pushed" to buy Samsung's. That's DT's sensationalist slant on the subject. Common sense will tell you if someone walks in the store with no clue of what they want, you show them THE highest selling brand first.

quote:
No doubt in my mind that Samsung is giving carriers higher profit margins than Apple and even other Android phones.


I thought the "carrier exclusive" deals were where the big money was? Samsung seems to always launch their phones on all major carriers simultaneously.

So nice conspiracy theory, but it doesn't jive with reality. Got any proof?


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Wazza1234 on 8/15/14, Rating: -1
RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By glowingghoul on 8/15/14, Rating: -1
RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Wazza1234 on 8/15/14, Rating: -1
RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/15/2014 8:18:46 AM , Rating: 4
It competes just fine. Let's be serious, the Alpha absolutely blows the iPhone away as-is.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By W00dmann on 8/13/2014 3:44:21 PM , Rating: 2
Totally agree quiksilvr. It's a nice phone no doubt, but as we all know, the iPhone will pose a major, major threat to Samsung's sales. So if they want to compete "head to head" with the newest iPhone at the same size / dimensions, they should be aiming for the stars instead of aiming for "parity". Otherwise, I'm sure it will be a perfectly nice phone - just not an iPhone slayer, so to speak.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Samus on 8/13/14, Rating: 0
RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Spuke on 8/13/2014 6:24:47 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
~4.5" is around the perfect size. Anything over 4.7" is pretty clunky no matter how thin it is, and anything under 4.3" has a difficult on screen keyboard (my main complaint with the iPhone)
FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF is wrong with you people! There are literally MILLIONS of people with larger than 4.7" phones and they like them just fine! The only perfect size is the size YOU like! 4.5 and 4.7 is too small for me. My 5.2" G2 is just right, I don't want anything smaller or anything bigger (unless someone manages to cram a larger screen in the same footprint).


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By EasyC on 8/17/2014 8:01:19 AM , Rating: 2
That's interesting. Most of the people I know with big phones would prefer something smaller.

I guess I'm of the populace who still believes phones should be a one handed device.

So as much as you went off on this guy for preferring a decently sized phone, there are people who actually think YOU are wrong, too.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/17/2014 9:15:24 AM , Rating: 2
The only small phone that sells in any numbers are the iPhone. And Apple is now being forced to offer bigger phones because their fanbase is tired of using a phone design from 4 years ago.

So yes there are people who prefer smaller phones, just not all that many.

I wouldn't be shocked if the new bigger iPhone's outsell the 4" models overnight. Then maybe we can dispel this myth that smartphones with bigger screens are some kind of fad or aberration.

And he didn't go off on someone for liking a smaller phone. He's just saying there's no such thing as this "perfect size" you guys in the minority carry on about.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By atechfan on 8/13/2014 9:42:20 PM , Rating: 1
If this exact phone were released by a Windows Phone OEM, you would be slamming it for the lack of removable storage and low res screen. Since it is a Samsung, you find it "compelling".


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/14/2014 12:25:26 PM , Rating: 2
When have I ever criticized a 4.7" phone for being 720p? Please go find where I said that. And I've complimented LOTS of phones that didn't have SD support. Wtf did I ever claim it was a requirement that all phones have it?

Nice drive-by ad homenum attack with zero truth or substance to it.

I just said in the HTC Windows Phone article all kinds of good things about it. If this exact phone was running Windows Phone 8.1, I would not be "slamming" it you butthurt little fanboi.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By tayb on 8/14/2014 10:04:43 AM , Rating: 2
It's too bad they gimped it with a small battery so they could make it a few milimeters thinner. Take the same battery in the S5 but with a 720p screen and the battery life would be off the freaking charts.

This is kind of thing that annoys me so damn much about the smartphone market. All anyone seems interested in doing is maintaining status quo battery life with a few strong ones thrown in that on rare occasions.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Banana Bandit on 8/14/2014 10:10:21 AM , Rating: 2
yeah the battery capacity really sux hard.

This would be the perfect phone if it has decent battery capacity and a microsd slot.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/14/2014 12:19:04 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah they can just magically fit the same battery in the S5 in a 4.7" phone lol.

Anyway you can fit a gigantic battery in this phone if you want it. They'll be ZeroLemon kits for the Alpha just like this one.

http://www.amazon.com/ZeroLemon%C2%AE-7500mAh-Exte...


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By tayb on 8/14/2014 1:27:50 PM , Rating: 2
Galaxy S5 dimensions: 142 x 72.5 x 8.1mm. 145g

Galaxy Alpha dimensions: 132.4 x 65.5 x 6.7. 115g

The phone is extremely close in size to the S5 except for the thickness. If they increased the thickness they could absolutely fit a similar battery.

But instead of battery life they opted to make the phone as thin as possible. Because reasons. Saving money? Who knows.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By retrospooty on 8/14/2014 1:54:03 PM , Rating: 2
That is not extremely close. That is a cm shorter and nearly a cm less width. That is a fairly large difference...

I agree about the width, but they weren't going for me, they were going for a thin phone.

I would personally love to see "Maxx" type lines like Moto. The Alpha as is at 6.7mm thin and a thicker version with a larger battery.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/14/2014 2:44:45 PM , Rating: 2
If you want a thicker phone with a bigger battery, put a ZeroLemon kit on the Alpha and problem solved.

Yeah the Moto Maxx was a great concept, but it had just one problem: Nobody bought them.

There's more people out there that want a thin and light phone. Not sure what Tayb and Ritualm don't get about that.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By retrospooty on 8/14/2014 5:24:16 PM , Rating: 3
"If you want a thicker phone with a bigger battery, put a ZeroLemon kit on the Alpha and problem solved."

Yeah, I have seen them. Even had one on my wifes old Note2... Bulky as hell, but they do last. Like over a week between charges LOL.

"Yeah the Moto Maxx was a great concept, but it had just one problem: Nobody bought them."

That may have been more the "moto" than the "maxx" as no-one bought the thin ones either ;)

Agreed though, there are plenty options to choose from... Unless you buy from Apple.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By ritualm on 8/14/2014 1:55:57 PM , Rating: 2
Or Samsung could have gone against the trend for once and made the phone thicker so it can use the S5's battery!

So the reasons of their making it all nice and slim are as follows:

1) to give buyers the appearance of high quality... from a company that's not exactly known for high quality in its products

2) because smartphones must be dangerously thin, battery life be damned

3) because OMG Apple iPhone 6

Hrmm... I wonder which one of these is the real reason /s


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/14/2014 2:40:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Or Samsung could have gone against the trend for once and made the phone thicker so it can use the S5's battery!


Samsung is in the business of selling phones. Why buck "the trend" exactly? Consumers WANT thin and light phones! What about this aren't you getting?

Maybe Apple under Steve Jobs could get away with telling the consumers what they wanted, but Samsung sure as hell can't.

Also we have zero data yet on what the battery life of this phone will be, yet you guys are freaking out over it's size. Considering the screen size, resolution, and SoC, it's probably going to be quite good already. Great if they bring their "super battery saver" mode over to it that's done wonders for the S5.

You guys are just silly. I mean looking at the comments on this thread the Alpha needs to have a Snapdragon 801, 3 gigs of RAM, a 1080p display, the same battery as the S5, the same camera as the S5, SD support and...ummm did I leave anything out?


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By ritualm on 8/14/2014 3:00:43 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Samsung is in the business of selling phones. Why buck "the trend" exactly? Consumers WANT thin and light phones! What about this aren't you getting?

Most consumers don't even know what they need in a phone.

Do they want thin and light phones, or are they pushed by salespeople to buy those thin and light phones? That's not all! They buy those thin and light phones, only to find the battery life wanting.

You cannot be seriously this myopic and blindsided to not see this play out irl.
quote:
Maybe Apple under Steve Jobs could get away with telling the consumers what they wanted, but Samsung sure as hell can't.

Funny, because Motorola Mobility did what Samsung never had the will to do themselves: draw a line in the sand with Droid Maxx.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/14/2014 3:07:39 PM , Rating: 2
This isn't about "needs", it's about wants. Most ALL consumer spending is based on wants and desires, not needs.

Come to think of it, hardly anyone "needs" a smartphone in the first place.

quote:
Funny, because Motorola Mobility did what Samsung never had the will to do themselves: draw a line in the sand with Droid Maxx.


And did the Droid Maxx outsell Samsung models? OH WAIT! Nope! And where's the new Droid Maxx models exactly? I don't see any. So how did that work out for Motorola?

I love how you think you're making any logical arguments.

If you want an "Alpha Maxx", put a ZeroLemon kit on the Galaxy Alpha!! Samsung is giving you that option, if you won't take it, then STFU.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By ritualm on 8/14/2014 9:17:12 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I love how you think you're making any logical arguments.

I love how you think your opinions are fact.

Protip: they aren't.
quote:
Samsung is giving you that option, if you won't take it, then ST*U.

So funny watching you shout people down with your ill-gotten "knowledge".

ZeroLemon kits? Been there, done that already.

You should heed your own advice next time you're in any article involving Windows Phone. You and your ilk simply do not belong there.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By flyingpants1 on 8/14/2014 7:23:48 PM , Rating: 2
Nothing wrong with making phones thinner.

I'd rather it was 8.7mm, with microSD card, and internal-only battery, with FRONT SPEAKERS so I can actually hear stuff.

But you can't always get what you want.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By Flunk on 8/13/2014 9:27:10 AM , Rating: 2
If it weren't a large phone it wouldn't be a Nexus 6 would it?


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By jabber on 8/13/2014 12:34:00 PM , Rating: 2
That doesn't necessarily tally or make any sense.


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By av911 on 8/14/2014 12:08:44 PM , Rating: 2
Pretty sure the number corresponds to the generation and not the size of the screen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Nexus


RE: Nice to see a 4.7" phone.
By synapse46 on 8/13/2014 10:29:46 AM , Rating: 2
I still have my S3 for this reason. At the time I thought it was on the large side, but now it would be small.. lol..


This actually looks pretty decent.
By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 8:36:54 AM , Rating: 2
I would like to see this in a larger size, and possibly with SD options.

Either way, it's a nice change of pace for Samsung.




RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By Spuke on 8/13/2014 9:47:49 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
I would like to see this in a larger size, and possibly with SD options.
That's called the S5.


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 10:05:24 AM , Rating: 1
The S5 is another regurgitated design with a band aid textured back cover. No thanks. This is a whole new design.


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/13/2014 10:15:08 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
This is a whole new design.


... with a band aid textured back cover ;)


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 10:45:19 AM , Rating: 2
LOL... I did see that a few days ago, but that was some early engineering slug. Not seeing that on the video above. There is a very slight texture, not a grid of holes ala johnson and johnson.

http://i.imgur.com/GTp254Y.png


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/13/2014 10:48:40 AM , Rating: 1
I know you had to get your Samsung dig in, but it's not like you're married to the back cover. There's going to be all kinds of third-party custom back covers available for these things and the Note 4.


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 11:09:54 AM , Rating: 2
It's not removable is it?

Not that I dont like it, it's fine by me.


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/13/2014 12:12:11 PM , Rating: 1
The Alpha and the Galaxy S5 both have removable backplates, yes. So naturally there will be custom designs like this if you don't like the stock one.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=searc...

I'm confused, were we talking about a different model?


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 12:41:17 PM , Rating: 2
I was not aware the Alpha has a removable back-plate. Still not sure where you see that it does. If it does, cool, but like I said, I wouldn't personally need it. It looks pretty cool to me. The S5, not so much in my opinion. Anyhow, the point I was making above is that it's not an S5 or S5 variant - it's a totally different phone at a different size with a different feature set.


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By Spuke on 8/13/2014 12:49:15 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
So naturally there will be custom designs like this if you don't like the stock one
Wow, I didn't know any of that existed. Cool stuff, thanks.


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/13/2014 4:17:32 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah custom backplates have been made for Galaxy's for years now. That's why I don't get why people complain about the faux leather of the Note 3.

So basically with the addition of a $10 aftermarket cover, you can make your Alpha a true all-aluminium phone. If it's that important to you.


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By hughlle on 8/14/2014 10:52:41 AM , Rating: 2
So the solution is not for samsung to make a phone of a decent quality, but rather just to get the user to find a third party to do samsungs job for them. Gotacha.


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/14/2014 11:39:39 AM , Rating: 2
"Quality" has nothing to do with this particular discussion.

An aluminum backplate will easily deform when dropped. Which isn't a problem on phones with captive batteries having a dent or crease here or there, but could very much become a problem when the cover holding your battery gets dented and deformed and is unable to be snapped back into place.

This wasn't even about metal vs plastic in the first place. Simply pointing out that if you have an issue with the stock backplate's texture, or looks, or feel - there's options out there for you to customize the phone to your liking.

Not sure how that's a BAD thing....


By Schrag4 on 8/14/2014 1:02:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
there's options out there for you to customize the phone to your liking.

Not sure how that's a BAD thing....


Some people view the existence of options as evidence that the original parts or configuration aren't perfect. What they obviously fail to realize is that there is no such thing as "perfect for everyone". Configurability lets me have the perfect phone for me and lets you have the perfect phone for you.


RE: This actually looks pretty decent.
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/13/2014 1:08:11 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I was not aware the Alpha has a removable back-plate. Still not sure where you see that it does. If it does, cool, but like I said, I wouldn't personally need it.


How else are you gonna access the SIM slot? ;)


By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 1:16:21 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I see it now, right there in the article - RTFA LOL.

Cool, all the better!

I saw some better close up pics too. It does have holes, but much much smaller than the S5, so it deosnt look like a "Band aid" to me now. Will have to hold it though.


By Omega215D on 8/13/2014 1:19:51 PM , Rating: 2
The only thing missing would be the microSD slot. Everything else sounds quite decent if priced right.


By Banana Bandit on 8/14/2014 10:06:02 AM , Rating: 2
The Alpha has a user-replaceable battery so the back cover needs to be removable.

On the other side of the coin I have an S4. You can replace the back cover with an aftermarket aluminum one. I actually have an aluminum cover for mine. I have no doubt those are available for the S5 and will be for the Alpha shortly after release.


so many wrongs don't make a right
By Nortel on 8/13/14, Rating: 0
By coburn_c on 8/13/2014 10:10:29 AM , Rating: 2
Samsung training its customers to believe that premium materials means compromises. I have no idea why anyone would buy Samsung's latest money making gimmick at this point. Buy from the smaller companies that have to try harder and give you more to break into the market. Same thing goes for Apple. Complacency breeds mediocrity.


RE: so many wrongs don't make a right
By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 10:13:53 AM , Rating: 4
"-720p 4.7" screen (terrible ppi)
-meh cpu
-no SD card
-940mah less battery vs year old S5
-Aluminum chamfered frame (copy of iPhone 5/5S)"


Oh, Nortel, you never stop with the fun comments.
- This is an Octa (quad core big/little A15 design). Quite ample CPU.
- No SD? Yeah, lots of phones don't have it. Not everyone wants or needs that with 32gb storage. I do prefer it, but I am not everyone.
- smaller screen needs smaller battery. It's thin, what do you want?
- And of course, you just cant post anything without the usual grade school rant "stop copying me" GET OVER APPLE. They didnt invent the color gold, 16,32,64gb variant, multitouch, or chamfered edges.

"Who would buy this vs a Galaxy S5 or iPhone 6?"

People that want a smaller thinner phone (vs S5) and a decent OS that isn't missing dozens of standard smartphone features (vs. iPhone6)

Duh.


By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 10:14:33 AM , Rating: 2
edit - PPI, is almost exactly what the iPhone is, so what are you complaining about?


RE: so many wrongs don't make a right
By Nortel on 8/13/14, Rating: 0
RE: so many wrongs don't make a right
By EasyC on 8/13/2014 12:02:35 PM , Rating: 2
He didn't just list cores, he listed architecture (A15)...

How long do you need to go between charges. I have a 2300MAh in my Z1C and I go to bed every night with 65-75% life left. I still charge it overnight anyway.

Apple is reportedly having enough trouble with making screens that are less than FHD, never mind 2272x1280 or whatever number you came up with...


By Reclaimer77 on 8/13/2014 12:04:11 PM , Rating: 2
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No SD but this has always been one of those things Android supporters have touted as superior. Now it's a removed feature and there seems to be no uproar?


Where did we say EVERY Android phone must have an SD slot? There's lots of phones we can choose from for SD support. There's ZERO phones iPhone users can choose from. Get it?

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HUGE battery reduction - 940mah less?! If they made it non removable, a much larger battery could have been put in its place. But this feature is important?


Reduction from what? The Galaxy S5 is an entirely different form factor with a MUCH larger screen. It's like you're just pulling at straws to be negative here.

If you were interested in fairness, you would at least bother to compare this to the battery size in OTHER 4.7 inch phones!


RE: so many wrongs don't make a right
By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 12:22:54 PM , Rating: 3
How can you be so obtuse?

"Why do people correlate number of cores with performance?"
It is an ARM a15 CPU, that is no slacker. It's not about the cores, its the architechture. This is more than plenty CPU for any phone.

"No SD but this has always been one of those things Android supporters have touted as superior. Now it's a removed feature and there seems to be no uproar?"

What is it that you dont get. On the iPhone it's not an option. Not on any iPhone model. On Android, if you want it you can have it. It doesnt have to be on every phone as not everyone needs it. The lack of the option is what people dont like about IOS.

"I only mentioned the aluminum edges, which they are obviously now doing to copy the iphone look. "

Again get over yourself and get over Apple.


RE: so many wrongs don't make a right
By ritualm on 8/13/2014 4:41:54 PM , Rating: 2
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It is an ARM a15 CPU, that is no slacker. It's not about the cores, its the architechture. This is more than plenty CPU for any phone.

To Nortel, glowingghoul, tonyswash et al., even the superior A15 cores suck. It has to be Swift, Cyclone or some other custom ARM cores, it cannot have those standard ARM cores at all.


By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 10:36:56 PM , Rating: 2
They don't even put that much thought into it... "Apple = better no matter what" is the extent of the thought on any technical matter.


By ritualm on 8/13/2014 4:36:12 PM , Rating: 1
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No SD but this has always been one of those things Android supporters have touted as superior.

Depends on what you can put onto the card and the relative phone spec. If you can install and run apps from the SD card, that's immensely useful. If you can only use it for media storage, that's still more useful than having no SD card slot at all.

There are only three alternatives to more storage on an iDevice: cloud storage, external via WiFi, or external via super-overpriced super-slow USB flash drives with Lightning connectors.
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HUGE battery reduction - 940mah less?! If they made it non removable, a much larger battery could have been put in its place. But this feature is important?

And the 6 comes with, what, a 2100mAh battery (per latest rumors)? That's a full 500mAh LESS than SGS4's stock battery! Coming from you, however, I'm going to see you parade that 2100mAh as something of a revolution... it isn't.
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Competing against the Samsung S5, the S5 is better... Competing against the iPhone 6, it simply cannot be... neither phone are even announced... How can you compare which doesn't exist?

It doesn't exist? Yet the rumor mill is rife with supplier leaks. How's that "doubling down on secrecy" working out for ya?
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As for the resolution, the iPhone 6 could have 2272x1280 resolution

I mentioned that on reddit threads and got yelled at instead.

The most likely resolution is only 1704 x 960 - that is still nowhere near 1080p. Want a high PPI? Then squeeze it into the existing 5S frame... oh wait, it's coming out as a 4.7" phone, or is it also coming with a 5.5"? HA!
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Don't make the mistake of comparing year old devices to not-even-announced devices regardless of what device it is.

Since when has that stopped people from making comparisons? Remember, Nortel, a broken clock is always right two times a day.


By ritualm on 8/13/2014 4:24:40 PM , Rating: 2
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Who would buy this vs a Galaxy S5 or iPhone 6? Considering they are attempting to compete with the not even announced iPhone 6, these specs are a joke.

How about "neither"?

I'm only keeping track of two particular phones. One being the iPhone 6. The other (and I'd so much rather buy that instead) being the rumored Sony Z3 Compact/mini.

Nice phone and all, but that Alpha is still going to come with a boatload of Sambloat. I prefer picking up the phone and using it right away, not spend the first 24 hours rooting and flashing the damn thing.


By maroon1 on 8/14/2014 2:45:22 PM , Rating: 2
- 312 ppi is terrible ppi ?! I hope you are joking

- Galaxy Alpha display is better than galaxy S5 in some aspects. Like for example grayscale accuracy is superior on galaxy Alpha
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Early-Samsung-Galax...

Unfortunately, a lot of people seems to care about ppi and resolution, and forget about other aspects of display.

- Exynos 5430 is the first 20nm ARM CPU in the world. It more power efficient than any of the older Exynos, and also support HEVC (H.265) hardware decoder
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8382/samsung-announc...

And benchmarks shown that it can compete and sometimes wins when compared to snadragon 801 which is used by most high-end android phones in 2014
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_alpha-revie...

You say that this is meh CPU. LOL !!

- Lack of SD card might be bad for some people, but this thing has 32GB storage is which more than enough for most people. At least it is better than regular Iphone 5S which is only 16GB and no SD card

- Specs are not joke at all. THey are clearly using a high-end specs. It has high-end CPU, it has latest and best AMOLED display even if it is only 720p, it has 32GB storage and fingerprint sensor. Low-end and mid-ranged phones can't compete with it.

- Why would buy this vs a Galaxy S5 or iPhone 6 ? Maybe because some people want high-end phone with smaller size and thinner than S5, and Alpha has the overall best specs for 4.7 inch android phones. Iphone 6 are usually expensive at launch, and some people have limited budget.


Gimped S5
By agent2099 on 8/13/2014 10:11:45 AM , Rating: 3
If they really wanted to compete with the upcoming iphones they wouldn't have regressed in so many areas. By the specs this should be a budget model. 720p is outdated for a screen this size, and why not the same camera sensor as is on the S5? Did they really need to go backwards this much in order to maintain margins for the metal body?

No thanks I'll wait for the X+1.




RE: Gimped S5
By Reclaimer77 on 8/13/2014 10:38:42 AM , Rating: 1
What "budget" phones come with 2 gigs of RAM, 32 gigs of storage, a top end Octa SoC, and is thinner and lighter than most flagship out there?

Not to mention that "budget" phones look like crap, and this thing is gorgeous.


RE: Gimped S5
By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 10:47:48 AM , Rating: 2
Yup... The specs are pretty high end other than the screen. Not that 720 is "bad" for 4.7 inches. I would like it higher personally, but it's not "low end" by any means. Different? Yes, and that is a very good thing for Samsung IMO. I like this.


RE: Gimped S5
By EasyC on 8/13/2014 12:04:20 PM , Rating: 3
I'd say it's a perfect resolution for that battery size.

Low end would be 800x480 or 960x540 at that size...


RE: Gimped S5
By jabber on 8/14/2014 6:31:23 AM , Rating: 2
I would have thought at least 1280x768 would have been a better choice, same as the 4.7" Nexus 4.

But whats in a few pixels?


Does 1080p make a big difference on 4.7 inch anyway
By maroon1 on 8/14/2014 2:22:35 PM , Rating: 2
Resolution is everything

Galaxy Alpha using the latest and best AMOLED display. Samsung has been improving their in every generation. Grayscale accuracy for example is even better than Galaxy S5

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Early-Samsung-Galax...

Would you guys rather have an old a low quality AMOLED display like Galaxy S3 but with 1080p resolution, or would you rather have the latest and best AMOLED with highest color accuracy and brightness but only 720p resolution ?

I prefer high quality 720p over old and poor quality 1080p display, specially if the screen size is only 4.7 inch. I don't think that 1080p will make a big difference on 4.7 inch anyway.




By retrospooty on 8/14/2014 2:28:17 PM , Rating: 2
It depends on your eyes.

All things being equal, a good 1080p 4.7 vs. a good 720p 4.7 , the 1080p looks better, unless you dont see too good at close range. A poor quality 1080p, vs. a good quality 720p isnt the same.


FWIW
By Dug on 8/14/2014 5:47:03 PM , Rating: 2
I think this will sell very well.

90% of people don't care about specs as long as it can run the apps they want.
What app can't this phone run? Probably none, so what speed it runs at makes no difference.

Those same people couldn't tell the difference in resolution, and could care less about an sd card. Not only do they not have time to figure it out, they wouldn't know what's on the phone and what's on the sd card. So if it they needed to swap it out, they would loose things they were using.

People do want good looks, low weight, and thin. This hits all three of those.




2 years old
By Marty_LK on 8/18/2014 6:36:50 PM , Rating: 2
Sad that this device will already be 2 years old before it's even released. The size is smaller than a GS3 and the resolution is the same as a GS2, which is over 2 years old. And this one doesn't even have a card slot.

The GS3 is a better phone...




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