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MyWi 4.0
AT&T isn't playing games when it comes to unauthorized tethering apps

Things are quickly changing when it comes to internet data plans. While we were used to a plethora of unlimited data plans for our smartphones and even our home internet connections, service providers are now implementing bandwidth caps to curb data usage

When it comes to smartphones, many users feel that that should be able to use that data anyway they please, however, service providers clearly don't feel the same way. For this reason, data tethering -- which allows you to share your smartphone internet data connection with other devices -- is usually a separate charge from your data plan.

Those that get around this extra fee by jailbreaking and using "unauthorized" apps had better start watching your back -- AT&T is beginning to crackdown on users. According to TUAW, AT&T is sending out letters to customers that it believes are using unauthorized tethering solutions. Here's a snippet from the full text (which can be found here): 

Tethering can be an efficient way for our customers to enjoy the benefits of AT&T’s mobile broadband network and use more than one device to stay in touch with important people and information. To take advantage of this feature, we require that in addition to a data plan, you also have a tethering plan. 

Our records show that you use this capability, but are not subscribed to our tethering plan…

If we don’t hear from you, we’ll plan to automatically enroll you into DataPro 4GB after March 27, 2011. The new plan – whether you sign up on your own or we automatically enroll you – will replace your current smartphone data plan, including if you are on an unlimited data plan.

If you discontinue tethering, no changes to your current plan will be required.

One of the most popular apps for jailbroken iPhones is MyWi. MyWi allows a user to tether their iPhone without payingthe additional monthly tethering fee to AT&T. The app allows tethering via USB, Bluetooth, or Wi-Fi and is available for a one-time fee of $19.99

The letter doesn't say how AT&T was able to determine that the customer was tethering, but it stands to reason that grandfathered unlimited data plan customers that are using multiple gigabytes of data per month are prime suspects.



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Automatic Contract changes?
By GeekWithFire on 3/18/2011 10:07:27 AM , Rating: 5
Sounds like a pretty easy way to get out of a contract. Last time I checked, any changes a carrier makes to your services allows you to opt out and cancel. When you do, come on over to any of Sprint's Android phones. The internet is fast and isn't capped. Silly AT&T, tricks are for kids.




RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/18/2011 10:09:25 AM , Rating: 1
But is that applicable if you are clearly violating your own AT&T contract by using tethering solutions?


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By JBird7986 on 3/18/2011 10:13:00 AM , Rating: 4
They'd have to prove it. Who's to say that you're not just watching tons of movies on your phone?


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By SilthDraeth on 3/18/2011 11:34:23 AM , Rating: 5
If you are connecting through their network, they know what you are doing with your phone?

If you haven't heard of Carrier IQ... I know my Samsung Epic "HAD" it. Now it doesn't. Of course this is a Sprint/Samsung Phone, but I am willing to bet that phones on other carriers have it, or something similar installed by default, so unless you have a ROM with it removed, they know "exactly" how you are using your phone if they want to.

h t t p: / / forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11763089

Posted by k0nane on XDA Developers for Samsung Epic

"What Is Carrier IQ? Why Should We Care?

Put simply - and bluntly - Carrier IQ is a software package buried deep within Android by Samsung at the behest of Sprint. It has been in active use since the time of the Moment, if not before. The company that develops it, also known as Carrier IQ, bills it as "Mobile Service Intelligence". In their own words,

[T]he combination of the MSIP and IQ Insight lets you move seamlessly from broad trend data across many users, through comparative groups down to diagnostic data from individual devices. Now, not only can you identify trends, you have the power to drill down to specific instances, giving you the insight your specialists need to make a difference.

On its own, that description can vary from harmless, to worrying, depending on how you look at it. It's not until one drills deep down into the system and ferrets out every piece of the software that one truly knows what it contains. As some of you might remember, ACS took the first steps toward disabling the Carrier IQ software with the release of SyndicateROM and Xtreme Kernel 1.0. That, however, didn't even scratch the surface.

Carrier IQ's native libraries are plainly visible - libiq_client.so and libiq_service.so in /system/lib. During every boot, this service is launched - you can see it in Settings > Applications > Running Services as "IQAgent Service". These native libraries are called by non-native (Android application) libraries located in ext.jar (the client) and framework.jar (the service). Removal of these (rather obviously-named) libraries alone, be it the .so files or the libraries in framework or ext, will, obviously, break boot. So I - k0nane - had to dig deeper. To make a long story short, reference to the IQ Service and IQ Client were littered across the deepest portions of the framework, and some of the most basic functions of the Android system as we know it.

Carrier IQ as a platform is designed to collect "metrics" at any scale. What I found it to hook into is far beyond the scope of anything a carrier needs - or should want - to be collecting. Carrier IQ sits in the middle of, and "checks" the data of, SMS and MMS messages. It listens for and receives every battery change notifications. It hooks into every web page you view, and every XML file your device reads. It receives every press of the touch screen. It 'sees' what you type on the physical keyboard. It reads every number you press in the dialer. It can track which applications you use, what 'type' they are, how often, and for how long. It hooks into data sent and received.

I, and the rest of ACS, ask Samsung and Sprint - why do you want this information? Why do you need it? Why is the capability in place?

The only saving grace - if there is one - to this nasty, ten-legged mutant spider is that its logs are off by default..."


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By vol7ron on 3/18/2011 3:18:56 PM , Rating: 2
Also, if you're using a browser then basic HTTP shows your user agent. Easy to determine a mobile browser from a laptop browser.


By theapparition on 3/18/2011 4:03:11 PM , Rating: 2
Not really, because it's quite easy to enable desktop mode in mobile browsers.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By theArchMichael on 3/18/2011 11:42:50 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly, smartphones that have full support for flash 10 can access just about any site that a pc can (unless it is disallowed... like Hulu), so who's to say which device was the termination point?

What are they going to do? Intercept your data packets and read the browser request headers to determine the user agent. If that's the case, I think they may be overstepping their bounds of being a wireless transmission provider. I would rather my wireless carrier THAT I PAY not root through my (self) important work and also have knowledge of the weird porn that I watch.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By DM0407 on 3/18/2011 2:53:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What are they going to do? Intercept your data packets and read the browser request headers to determine the user agent.


The dolphin browser allows you to spoof your device to look like a PC so websites think your using a normal browser.

I think they are mass sending this letter to high usage subscribers in an attempt to kick them off unlimited data plans and hope that most will choose to stop tethering or get the tethering plan.

19.99 is a rip off for a tethering app, it just shows how misinformed (or rich) apple users are.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By tayb on 3/18/2011 8:21:05 PM , Rating: 3
Misinformed or rich Apple users? I've never even heard of this app or known anyone who tethers to do so using this app. Just because an Anand article states that's it is popular doesn't mean it is popular.

If I was a customer who received this letter I would call them and inform them that I do not authorize them to change my plan and, if they do, I shall be canceling my plan immediately. Prove that I'm illegally tethering.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By mherlund on 3/21/2011 3:37:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I've never even heard of this app or known anyone who tethers to do so using this app. Just because an Anand article states that's it is popular doesn't mean it is popular.


Just because you have not heard of it does not mean that it is not popular. I have heard of MyWi, pretty much every article I have read about mobile phone tethering mentions it.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By mherlund on 3/21/2011 3:34:24 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
19.99 is a rip off for a tethering app, it just shows how misinformed (or rich) apple users are.


What are they misinformed about? What is the alternative? Paying $20/month vs a $20 one time fee? I think the $20 fee is the cheaper way to go...a "rich" person would be the one paying the extra $20/month.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By AstroCreep on 3/18/11, Rating: 0
RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By Gzus666 on 3/18/2011 12:14:21 PM , Rating: 2
I'm going to go out on a limb and say this isn't how they do it. MAC is only passed to layer 2 boundaries, the minute it hits a layer 3 device, the MAC is changed to that device. I am not familiar with the inner workings of the tether apps, but they likely work like a wireless router and therefore would obfuscate the MAC. On top of all that, MACs can be faked very easily, so that is far from fool proof.

I would think they just check for these tethering programs running on their network.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By DanNeely on 3/18/2011 1:14:31 PM , Rating: 2
The other obvious way to see what's attached would be to look at browser IDs, if their packet sniffing indicates you're surfing the web using a desktop browser that's a pretty good indication you're tethered.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By CZroe on 3/18/2011 4:16:20 PM , Rating: 2
MAC is part of the Ethernet frame, not a TCP/IP packet. Even so, all ISPs run proxy servers, so privacy isn't the biggest barrier. They can tell any number of ways. I think the best solution is to ensure that it's running over the same data as your smartphone apps and then connect to an encrypted VPN at home and tunnel through with your tethered device. That will count toward BOTH data caps though.

FWIW, I have the grandfathered unlimited plan and there is still a 5GB unspoken cap. Cross it too many times and expect a nasty letter threatening to end your service.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By GeekWithFire on 3/18/2011 10:40:45 AM , Rating: 2
I think they only leg they have to stand on is getting to the point of calling Jailbreaking or Rooting a violation of contract (which I think the courts have already ruled on). Otherwise, you are just using software on the phone. So don't call the software tethering, call it data syncing.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By theArchMichael on 3/18/2011 11:33:06 AM , Rating: 2
That may be for an Iphone, but for Android I'm not sure rooting your phone violates any agreement. I have also used an open source tethering solution called Barnacle Wifi tether (5 stars btw, it supports a lot of even older Androids) and it can be downloaded directly from the Android Market, I don't think it needs root access.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By vision33r on 3/18/2011 12:34:28 PM , Rating: 2
Android's policy does not override the Carrier's policies they are 2 different policies really.

They don't have to give your Android device service if they choose to.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By DM0407 on 3/18/2011 2:54:27 PM , Rating: 2
Barnacle requires root.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By Jeffk464 on 3/18/2011 4:38:08 PM , Rating: 2
Apple went to court to try to make it illegal to modify the iphone. The court ruled against apple so I don't think they can say anything about rooting or jail braking.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By fearrun on 3/18/2011 10:41:47 AM , Rating: 1
How would a contract apply to a Nexus One owner on their network or any unlocked phone that has a form of tethering?

I am now running Gingerbread and WiFi hotspot has been built in since Froyo. I am literally only paying for their voice and data service, they do not own any part of my phone nor the OS and software that runs on it.

If they so much as raise a whisper about me violating any terms of service, they will have immediately lost a customer.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By Jeffk464 on 3/18/2011 4:34:30 PM , Rating: 2
Does AT&T really want to come up with more reasons for people not to want to join their network? Since they lost exclusivity with the iphone there really isn't ANY compelling reason for people to use them. It seems their new policies along with capping DSL are designed to chase away all of their customers. If you want a cap on smartphone data just put it in the contract and don't tell people how to use their phones.

Verizon is currently offering the HTC thunderbolt 4g LTE smartphone with an unlimited plan. So who in their right mind would sign up for AT&T anyways.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By Stuka on 3/18/2011 1:57:28 PM , Rating: 2
Every consumer contract usually starts or ends with a clause about how the company can add to, remove from, or amend anything at any time. Just like after 9/11, my insurance company amendded my policy to not cover Acts of War, whether invasion or civil unrest, to include, but not limited to, direct or indirect damage by missile attack. Maybe cell contracts are different, but I highly doubt that.


RE: Automatic Contract changes?
By DM0407 on 3/18/2011 2:56:58 PM , Rating: 2
Every cell phone contract I've ever had states that they have a right to change service agreements but they must give you 30 days notice and the right to cancel your contract if you do not agree with the new terms. By not opting out you are essentially accepting the new contract agreement.

I was able to get out of a T-mobile contract because they raised the rates of SMS messages by 5 cents even though I had an unlimited text plan.


You can go pound sand AT&T
By MeesterNid on 3/18/2011 9:58:23 AM , Rating: 5
What a total load of bull #$@%! So you pay for data, if you don't use it up within the billing cycle it's, poof, gone. BUT if you dare use it however you want to, since you paid for it and all, you need to pay more!? WTF kind of reasoning is this?!

This is exactly why I absolutely refuse to get any sort of data plan from any of the cellular providers! I'd rather suck it up and pay for wifi hot spots when I need data access, or just do without it!




RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By xti on 3/18/11, Rating: 0
RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By Snow01 on 3/18/2011 10:41:14 AM , Rating: 2
What are you using to watch? I just got playon up and running and it's working great.


RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By xti on 3/18/2011 12:53:06 PM , Rating: 2
the NCAA app on the iphone store, think there is an android one too.


RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By Murst on 3/18/2011 11:16:03 AM , Rating: 2
You don't have wireless in the restrooms @ work? Our wireless at work works way better than any 3g/4g connection a carrier provides...


RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By DanNeely on 3/18/2011 11:24:42 AM , Rating: 2
At a guess he's unlucky enough to work for someone who's blocking video streaming to save on bandwidth costs.


RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By xti on 3/18/2011 12:52:37 PM , Rating: 2
yeah the internal network is limited a bit, vpn stuff, etc etc.


RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By dgingeri on 3/18/2011 11:01:01 AM , Rating: 2
I've been with AT&T for over 3 years and haven't had problems, but this is going too far. I had heard this was what was holding up the FroYo update for my Captivate, but I wasn't sure I believed it. I do now.

If we don't get 2.2 soon, with tethering intact without extra charges, by June, I may cancel my contract early and go with Sprint. I'll have the money at that point. I'll be telling them that in no uncertain terms.


RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By Cheesew1z69 on 3/18/2011 2:48:58 PM , Rating: 2
And I believe Sprint charges for tethering, so good luck with that!


RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By Jeffk464 on 3/18/2011 4:51:00 PM , Rating: 2
You shouldn't run stock android on any phone. Go to http://www.xda-developers.com/ they have the instructions and software to fix your phone.


RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By fearrun on 3/18/2011 8:34:01 PM , Rating: 2
Even a Nexus One? That was one of my main reasons for buying it.


RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By KC7SWH on 3/20/2011 3:37:56 AM , Rating: 2
2.2 was released for the captivate almost a month ago (2/24).
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_...
Time to pull you head out and get it installed.


RE: You can go pound sand AT&T
By Adonlude on 3/18/11, Rating: 0
Prepare to Litigate
By TheRealArdrid on 3/18/11, Rating: 0
RE: Prepare to Litigate
By macrogeek on 3/18/2011 10:31:50 AM , Rating: 2
I would bet that if you read through the contract the customer signed, they agreed not to use applications to circumvent the tethering fee.

I understand how you feel about your data being device and content agnostic, but that doesn't legally have anything to do with the contract the customer signed with AT&T.


RE: Prepare to Litigate
By Murst on 3/18/2011 11:33:39 AM , Rating: 2
You obviously have never read through your contract. Let me make it easy for you:

quote:
Furthermore, plans (unless specifically designated for tethering usage) cannot be used for any applications that tether the device (through use of, including without limitation, connection kits, other phone/smartphone to computer accessories, BLUETOOTH® or any other wireless technology) to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for any purpose. Accordingly, AT&T reserves the right to (i) deny, disconnect, modify and/or terminate Service, without notice, to anyone it believes is using the Service in any manner prohibited or whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network or service levels or hinders access to its wireless network, including without limitation, after a significant period of inactivity or after sessions of excessive usage


Taken from: http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/leg...

You should probably be familiar with the terms of a contract before you start making claims about it.


RE: Prepare to Litigate
By ICBM on 3/18/2011 12:02:40 PM , Rating: 2
I agree data is data, and it should not be discriminated against. However it looks like they covered themselves with this clause, as disgusting as it is.

Typically in this case, one would say don't use ATT and go with someone else, but I am sure all the other guys have similar clauses. Now when data plans were unlimited, I could understand putting this tethering clause in. However with data caps in place now, I don't see this being applicable.

This seems to be more like a price fixing / monopolistic type of action which the SEC should look into.


RE: Prepare to Litigate
By kmmatney on 3/18/2011 12:31:02 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. AT&T's actions make sense for those with unlimited plans (which I have at the moment), but seems greedy for those with data caps.


RE: Prepare to Litigate
By DM0407 on 3/18/2011 3:12:25 PM , Rating: 2
The one problem I see is they need to prove beyond doubt that the user was tethering and that it is just not an assumption based on usage. Also "modify service" is a questionable term. Does that give them to right to add unauthorized fees or just disconnect or limit your bandwidth?


RE: Prepare to Litigate
By theapparition on 3/18/2011 4:08:55 PM , Rating: 2
Beyond doubt??? This isn't a court of law. People get that confused.

This is a private contract between you and AT&T. The contract states that they are free to change terms at any time. If they exercise their right to change terms, you also have the right to cancel the contract with no penalties.

Don't like it, go to a carrier that you do like.


RE: Prepare to Litigate
By Jeffk464 on 3/18/2011 4:54:44 PM , Rating: 2
It can very well end up in court, this is the type of thing that class action lawsuits are all about.


RE: Prepare to Litigate
By TheRealArdrid on 3/19/2011 12:40:54 PM , Rating: 2
And you should perhaps do some research into contractual provisions and how the courts feel about them. Just because AT&T throws something into a contract does not mean it's enforceable by any stretch of the imagination. Unilateral contractual modifications have been repeatedly denied by the courts as being unconscionable, despite what plain language appeared in the contract at the outset, and particularly in situations where one party (AT&T) has considerably more bargaining power than the other party (consumer).

Do your homework next time.


RE: Prepare to Litigate
By dxf2891 on 3/21/2011 4:43:55 PM , Rating: 2
So what you're saying is due to the fact that I've been a customer of this company since it was Cingular One, I should be able to send them a letter stating that "Unless you dispute this request in 90 days, from that day forward you agree to give me and my family your service for free until a time that we are no longer satisfied with said service"? This is essentially what AT&T is telling me, a loyal customer for 12 years. I sold you an unlimited data plan, that I am now going to limit. Oh and by the way, you can only use the data that I say you can use. And if you don't like it, I'll send you a letter that you won't probably read invalidating our contract only to replace it with one in my favor. K.M.A. AT&T.


Fascinating
By Pjotr on 3/18/2011 12:29:00 PM , Rating: 4
This is really amazing to me living in Europe. Here, phones are not limited in technology. If I want to surf on my laptop via my phone, I connect using a USB cable, Bluetooth, or if the phone supports it, WiFi. I have a data plan subscription from an operator, which can range from 200 MB/month to fully unlimited (often included with your monthly fee). When you hit the limit, speed goes down to 64 kbit, but still works and you can pay extra to increase again.

An operator limiting functionality on devices would commit suicide. Noone would accept that operators control what features are available in phones, when phones clearly support them.

It seems clear that the market here works, while in USA it's an oligopoly where operators are able to dictate terms over consumers.




RE: Fascinating
By aegisofrime on 3/18/2011 1:31:26 PM , Rating: 4
I live in Singapore, and I'm amazed that a first world country like the USA has to deal with such shenanigans. Here,I use my data plan however I like it, I had to look up what the hell is phone unlocking (apparently, it's against the law to carrier lock phones here).

I think Americans have to stop worshiping the free market. Too free a market means that powerful corporations will screw over consumers when they have a chance. Oh sure, you will argue,"In a free market if I don't like a company I can go for it's competitors" Fine, if there are competitors, but there's things like market entry barriers (cost of R&D, acquiring distributors etc) and collusion.


RE: Fascinating
By Jeffk464 on 3/18/2011 4:46:05 PM , Rating: 2
Yup, there are very bright people sitting in their corporate offices spending all their time thinking how to extract the most money from their customers.


RE: Fascinating
By Kurz on 3/19/2011 9:16:12 AM , Rating: 2
>.> they wouldn't be using their time to screw their customers if the FCC didn't give them monopoly control of the market.


RE: Fascinating
By Shadowmaster625 on 3/21/2011 9:02:50 AM , Rating: 2
America is not free market. That's called propaganda. It is as obvious as the gaudy pictures of the big red white and blue Uncle Sam. AT&T is still around for one reason and one reason only: stupid people give them their money. And AT&T uses that money to build a better mousetrap.... for its customers.


Imagine...
By shabby on 3/18/2011 10:38:24 AM , Rating: 3
Imagine if your isp charged you extra if you wanted to connect a second or third pc to your router to use the internet... tethering is such a scam im surprised people are actually buying this crap.




RE: Imagine...
By Rage187 on 3/18/2011 11:00:57 AM , Rating: 2
Smart people aren't paying. It is the dumb ones who keep opening their wallets and bending over every time AT&T finds a way to screw the customer.


RE: Imagine...
By Murst on 3/18/2011 11:21:07 AM , Rating: 1
ISPs already kind of do that.

For example, Time Warner charges something like $5 or $6 for turning on the wireless in the modem they provide you.

The difference is that they don't force you to pay extra if you use your own wireless router. However, if the cellular providers somehow succeed in forcing users to pay for tethering, I could see ISPs using the same logic to force subscribers to pay extra for using wireless, even if the subscriber buys their own wireless router.


RE: Imagine...
By Gzus666 on 3/18/2011 12:18:04 PM , Rating: 2
Correction here, they charge you to turn on the wireless cause they have to support you at that point. It costs money to support the many non-technical folks out there with their wireless. They charge a fee so they can cover this cost.


RE: Imagine...
By DM0407 on 3/18/2011 3:05:25 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Correction here, they charge you to turn on the wireless cause they have to support you at that point. It costs money to support the many non-technical folks out there with their wireless. They charge a fee so they can cover this cost.


Six dollars to explain to someone how to connect to a wireless router? I bet its unencrypted to prevent a deluge of calls and they probably charge extra for in house service of the wireless... In other words they are both profit makers.


RE: Imagine...
By Murst on 3/18/2011 4:00:33 PM , Rating: 2
The provided support ends with them turning on the wireless. If you actually need support after they turn on the wireless, you are charged with their standard support visit fee.

If the charge was truly based on the 60 seconds it takes to turn on the wireless, it would be a one time charge. However, this charge is a recurring monthly charge for their wireless router being turned on.


RE: Imagine...
By spamreader1 on 3/18/2011 12:36:00 PM , Rating: 2
But time warner doesn't fine you or unilaterily add additional contract plans for using your own soho wifi router either...

I'm in the boat of due to geographic location I use an aircard which has a tiny limit of 5GB/mo. When I use about 4.8GB (about 1 out of 3 months depending on remote support usage) I tether my iphone using mywi for the additional 500MB-1GB to avoid the .05/mb overage charges for the 5GB hard cap that is now imposed.

Now if ATT used sense and charged air card fees the same as cell phone data plans I would never have to do that in the first place. I'd love to pay the same way for the air card data the same way as cellular data. $10-$20 per GB is a bit high but reasonable, $0.05/MB is unreasonable. ($50/GB for those who don't want to do the simple math) If the 5GB plan is $59.99 why can't they simply charge for each additional 1-2GB the same way as smartphone users?


Whats next, I wont be able to use a router again? :)
By RMSe17 on 3/18/2011 11:14:28 AM , Rating: 3
Haven't they learned anything from the broadband industry and routers? Back in the day broadband providers would sell you multiple IP addresses if you wanted to have more than one computer with internet access, and a router was a big no-no... Now they assume that you have one, cause everyone does. It appears AT&T prefers to have their head in the ground, but that's ok, it will catch up to them.




By DanNeely on 3/18/2011 1:18:12 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Haven't they learned anything from the broadband industry and routers?


Yup. They've spent more money buying congress than the land line companies did back in the day.


Data Speeds
By btc909 on 3/18/2011 2:39:31 PM , Rating: 2
You should be capping data speeds per cell tower depending on demand. If the data usage at a particular time on a particular cell tower is low relax the data speed cap. If you are still running ancient T1 lines to your cell tower for internet connections well then you have another obvious problem.




RE: Data Speeds
By Jeffk464 on 3/18/2011 4:43:34 PM , Rating: 2
Rumor is that verizon is doing exactly that. They said that they were going to start throttling customers that use a lot of bandwidth and I have read that people are noticing but only during peak hours.


How to get out from AT&T?
By Roy2001 on 3/18/2011 4:08:43 PM , Rating: 2
I am sick of this. I have capped (2GB) data plan, I usually use less than 1GB of data, occasionally I will use ipad to surf through my hacked iphone (PDANet), 1-2 times a month. They want to charge $20 for that? No way!

Anyone know how to get rid off ATT contract without early termination fee?




RE: How to get out from AT&T?
By Veerappan on 3/23/2011 1:49:25 PM , Rating: 2
Go read your contract. As several people in this thread have now mentioned, you may be able to opt out of your contract as a result of this if you receive one of AT&Ts letters.


Is Verizon any better?
By DuctTapeAvenger on 3/18/2011 1:05:56 PM , Rating: 1
I am absolutely sick of AT&T and am actively working to end my contract. Is Verizon any better about things like this, or is Sprint the way to go?




RE: Is Verizon any better?
By shortylickens on 3/20/2011 2:51:11 PM , Rating: 2
I've been screwed over with all 3.
The only company that hasnt ripped me off is Tmobile and their coverage is so spotty its not a good option for most people.
But Verizon has never given me a hard time about going over on data. Nor have I received any threats after tethering.


Mobile Carriers Have Too Much Power
By Arsynic on 3/18/2011 1:17:16 PM , Rating: 2
This reminds me of the old days when cable/dsl carriers used to charge extra for "Home Networking" if you had more than one computer in the home that accessed the Internet. Obviously that only flew with complete idiots. The rest of us used NAT on our routers. This is the same thing.

Do carriers have the right to tell us what we can install on our devices? If so, who owns the device? Since you are on contract maybe you don't actually own the phone.

These cell carriers have way too much power and it's going to take a massive class action suit to take this power away.




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