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Google wants all of your devices to be connected

We’ve seen Google make a push into home-based “smart devices” with the purchase of Nest Labs in early January. That move, along with the recent discovery that Google could have future intentions of turning “refrigerators, car dashboards, thermostats, glasses, and watches” into advertising billboards, has some people concerned.
 
As if the prospects of Google’s expanding advertising ambitions weren’t enough to stir paranoia from the tech masses, this latest report from The Information will likely send skeptics over the edge. Google is reportedly in talks to purchase Dropcam, a startup created by Greg Duffy and Aamir Virani that specializes in connected cameras.


Dropcam CEO Greg Duffy (L) and COO Aamir Virani (R) 
 
The company currently sells the $149 Dropcam which provides a 107-degree field of view, 4x zoom, night vision, two-way talk via the built-in speaker and microphone, intelligent alerts that can be emailed or pushed to your mobile device, and optional cloud recording. A $199 Dropcam Pro ups the ante with a 130-degree field of view, an 8x zoom along with superior low-light and audio performance.


Dropcam Pro
 
The company is also pushing towards a summer release of Dropcam Tabs, which are small, wireless motion sensors that can be placed on windows, doors, or even refrigerators (if you’re into that kind of thing). The device can then instantaneously alert you via your mobile device or PC whenever movement has been detected.

 
If the report is true, the Dropcam acquisition would mesh with Google’s goal to turn the Nest team into a fully functioning hardware group within the company. And with Apple looking to push into the home automation market with “Smart Home,” Dropcam would definitely jumpstart Google’s efforts to become a big player in this space.

Source: The Information



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Jumped the shark
By Nortel on 5/27/2014 12:03:33 PM , Rating: 5
People were already on edge after realizing Google was 'reading' every Gmail and Gchat message to target ads. Then the concern with Nest and targeted ads on those systems... Now we have a system letting Google into our homes 24/7 with live feeds. Are people that stupid to actually give Google access to their lives like this? Microsoft already proved they had the 'technology' to passively monitor items it sees in the cameras field of view and target products as such.

Police/governments can request Google to provide all email or other activity from an account, now they will be able to provide camera data that you yourself were dumb enough to install showing everything you do inside the privacy of your home.




RE: Jumped the shark
By peterrushkin on 5/27/2014 12:21:10 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, its going to happen. Apple/Amazon will probably jump on this too. They'll be the ones holding the data and the police can hit hem up also.

Although I could suggest there are plenty of free alternatives out there. Would joe 6 pack be able to put this together on his own? Doubt it.

So you'll get 2 groups of people. Those who want to hook this up in 2 minutes and have it just work and are fine being in Googles, Apples, Amazons domain.

The rest of us who have a self-built system where potentially a backup is sent to the cloud in the event of a failure or stolen hard disk.


RE: Jumped the shark
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 1:11:31 PM , Rating: 2
Curious you didn't post this in the Apple home automation discussion. But when it comes to Google, out comes that rampant paranoia and conspiracy theories.


RE: Jumped the shark
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 5/27/2014 1:23:19 PM , Rating: 2
The whole "All Knowing Google" doesn't really bother me (I use plenty of Google services), but I'm guessing that for some people it comes down to Google primarily being an ad-driven company while Apple is first and foremost a consumer mobile devices/PC company.

But even in that context, I don't even really see what the big deal is. Just don't buy a Google camera/thermostat/etc. if you're so turned off by the idea... there are plenty of other fish in the sea.


RE: Jumped the shark
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 1:31:00 PM , Rating: 1
I don't see what the big deal is either. A lot of it is ignorance. These people act like someone at Google is literally watching their every move, and reading their every message or something. That's just not how it works.

Fanboism is a big part of it here on Daily Tech, of course. If you don't like Google, you make a huge issue out of the advertising and accuse them of "stealing" data, whether or not you actually believe that, is immaterial.

Microsoft fanbois are the same way. Which is why I'm always quick to point out that Microsoft owns and run their own targeted ad firm, using data they "stole" as well.

Looks like Apple isn't far behind...

http://bgr.com/2014/01/23/apple-targeted-ads-mood-...


RE: Jumped the shark
By atechfan on 5/27/2014 1:39:40 PM , Rating: 2
Perception is a large part of it. Everyone knows that Google is an ad company, whereas Apple is not thought of that way.

Of course, with Apple the announcement was even scarier, since they patented the idea without any related product. We all know where that is heading.


RE: Jumped the shark
By NellyFromMA on 5/28/2014 4:28:39 PM , Rating: 1
He clearly isn't going to be buying based on his response.

You don't need to see what the big deal is if you don't want to or if the pros outway the cons for you.

Someone expressing their opinion isn't equivalent to their telling you to change your mind.

Failure to understand this is to become "Reclaimer", and that's just not good for anyone. We can probably all agree on that.


RE: Jumped the shark
By Reclaimer77 on 5/28/2014 5:36:33 PM , Rating: 3
I'm sorry but he's not just saying this isn't for him. He's claiming police will be using Google's technology to spy on you, and other paranoid ramblings.

This not only is highly unlikely (Google will NOT be recording video from your camera and saving it on a server), but alarmist fanboi talk.

Just because you might agree with him, doesn't mean he's right or he's just innocently expressing some "opinion". Talked BS, got called on it. That's what happened here.


RE: Jumped the shark
By atechfan on 5/29/2014 1:55:30 PM , Rating: 2
No more paranoid than the people who claimed the Kinect was going to spy on them.


RE: Jumped the shark
By Reclaimer77 on 5/29/2014 4:37:42 PM , Rating: 2
Well for the record I was never one of those people. However the big issue with Kinect was that MS originally wanted it required for the Xbox One to function. People felt it was being forced on them.

p.s You have a talent for working an MS product into every topic :)


RE: Jumped the shark
By Nortel on 5/27/2014 2:05:55 PM , Rating: 2
No I did not post in that topic. I'm not a fan of home automation at all ... It just feels so utterly gimmicky and for the most part, pointless.


RE: Jumped the shark
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 3:21:29 PM , Rating: 2
That's a common opinion of those with small minds, so no surprise coming from you.

How is home automation any more "gimmicky" than an automatic car wash, or the assembly line?

The point of home automation is to *gasp* AUTOMATE...


RE: Jumped the shark
By Spuke on 5/27/2014 6:29:32 PM , Rating: 2
Home automation is AWESOME! Not only am I glad that Google is getting into this but I'm happy prices are finally coming out of the stratosphere on these products. Looking forward to new developments from Google.


RE: Jumped the shark
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 7:20:30 PM , Rating: 3
Well if there's one thing Google is good at, it's driving prices down and disrupting markets.

SO yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing what their plans are for smarthomes personally.

Apple? Just..LMAO, noooo, I don't think so.


RE: Jumped the shark
By Motoman on 5/27/2014 1:13:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
People were already on edge after realizing Google was 'reading' every Gmail and Gchat message to target ads.


No they're not. The "people" are far too stupid to understand what is being done to them - like a frog slowly boiling in a pan.

"The people" are infinitely willing to give all their personal details of their lives to the massive corporations, abdicating all control of their own identities and plunging headlong into full-on de facto fascism.

Just watch...the hordes of r3tards will soon be howling about thinking people who object to constant surveillance being "luddites" and such - all the while blissfully ignorant of the fact that they are no longer in control of their lives.


RE: Jumped the shark
By sprockkets on 5/27/2014 2:26:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
People were already on edge after realizing Google was 'reading' every Gmail and Gchat message to target ads.


It's ten years later and still no one gives a sht.

quote:
Then the concern with Nest and targeted ads on those systems


Which was a false alarm, of which DT didn't update their article with a response from Google.

quote:
Now we have a system letting Google into our homes 24/7 with live feeds. Are people that stupid to actually give Google access to their lives like this? Microsoft already proved they had the 'technology' to passively monitor items it sees in the cameras field of view and target products as such.


No one is holding a gun to your head to put one in.


RE: Jumped the shark
By NellyFromMA on 5/27/2014 2:57:23 PM , Rating: 2
Spot on. It's flat-out creepy IMO.

The thing is, Google has a portion of its market that simply doesn't care about the ramifications of any of these personal tech decisions. They absolutely are "that stupid", to borrow from your words, because often times they are very young, don't understand the value of their right to privacy (or any constitutional right for that matter) and simply sacrifice all in the name of short-term convenience without regard to the larger-term societal aftermath. It doesn't help that these kids also think they like the new coolest thing and often its a challenge to get them to even see beyond that.

At this point, the public and private sectors do the same thing; Their common goals are to track, collect information on, and profile you.

There's a really small undercurrent of privacy-advocation on both the private and public sides that I really hope evolves into some real privacy rights in the digital era for consumers and citizens.

We'll see what happens.


RE: Jumped the shark
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 3:36:14 PM , Rating: 2
I like how anyone who uses Google services is a "stupid kid".

Part of being an intelligent adult is making decisions based on knowledge. If you think Google is violating your "privacy" in any way, it is YOU who are ignorant, not us 'stupid kids'.

quote:
Google has a portion of its market that simply doesn't care about the ramifications of any of these personal tech decisions.


None of which you or your alarmist ilk ever bothers to go into detail over. It's always some vague fear-mongering.

Tell me, right now, what ramifications? I've been using Google services for over 10 years, at least. So when, exactly, are these ramifications going to impact my life? What's going to happen to me? Please tell me, I want to know.

quote:
There's a really small undercurrent of privacy-advocation on both the private and public sides that I really hope evolves into some real privacy rights in the digital era for consumers and citizens.


LMAO!!!

We have the NSA illegally spying on everyone, and you think private advocacy groups should worry about Google? Which you can totally opt-out of.


RE: Jumped the shark
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2014 3:45:02 PM , Rating: 2
Let me ask you something, and I want a honest answer, do you use a credit card or debit card?

If so, then you're a "stupid kid". Ignorant of all the 'ramifications'.

You walk into a Target and make a purchase. You are giving complete strangers your very life savings, the keys to your very lifeblood! Trusting that they wont rob you, that they'll protect your information, keep it safe.

Suddenly you're the victim of identity theft, your whole life is turned upside down. And you did nothing wrong.

And I don't think there's a damn one of us here who can honestly say we don't use electronic payments.

So before you accuse others of being stupid and too trusting, just you know, really think about it.


RE: Jumped the shark
By Spuke on 5/27/2014 6:37:56 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
So before you accuse others of being stupid and too trusting, just you know, really think about it.
Yep! ANYONE that's ever purchased ANYTHING electronically has personal financial information stored on someone's servers. If you have a bank account, you have personal financial information stored on someone's servers. YOUR critical financial info could be accessed by law enforcement 30 years ago before Google or any of these tech companies were glints in their fathers eyes. If you believe otherwise, YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT . Get over it already!


RE: Jumped the shark
By NellyFromMA on 5/28/2014 4:25:08 PM , Rating: 2
Guy, once again you are twisting my words trying to capitalize on my quoting the OP.

I don't have time to address you any further. If you want to ask legit questions, frame them as such and not in your ultra-sensational-extremist slanderbox bs.

If you can't figure out how to RESPECTFULLY address someone, you have a long way to go before adulthood, "stupid kid".


Will open door to competitors who won't sell your data
By tayb on 5/27/2014 12:53:17 PM , Rating: 2
Nest and Dropcam were pretty interesting because they weren't in the business of acquiring information about you to sell to advertisers. With Google behind the helm I have no interest in either of these products. Because when you deal with Google you aren't the customer you are the product.

I want motion sensors that help control my climate, turn the lights on when I walk into a room, and alert me that someone has entered my house. I don't want the habits inside of my home being sold to advertisers to better send me targeted advertising. I'm not interested in business relationships where I am the product another company is selling.

I have nothing against Google but I don't want them in my house. They already have enough insight into my personal life via my phone, maps, and browser. I don't need or want them to know more about what I do inside my home.




By Spuke on 5/27/2014 6:38:28 PM , Rating: 2
Penis.


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