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Amazon appears to be clearing out the Lumia 520 to make room for the new Lumia 530

The Lumia 530 may be the “new hotness” when it comes to Microsoft’s budget smartphone offerings, but the best-selling Lumia 520 is still hanging around in the mean time.
 
We’ve just gotten word courtesy of WP Central that the AT&T version of the Lumia 520 is now available at Amazon for $39.99 off-contract. You can use the smartphone with you existing AT&T service or with a prepaid SIM via GoPhone.

 
The Lumia 520 comes with a 1GHz dual-core processor, 512MB of RAM, 8GB of internal storage, a microSD slot for expansion, an 800x480 display, a 5MP rear camera (without flash) and a 1430 mAh battery.
 
The Lumia 520 definitely isn’t going to win any beauty pageants or lavish you with a ton of features, but it does provide smartphone functionality and support for Windows Phone 8.1. And it’s also hard to complain about a brand new off-contract smartphone that comes in at under $40.

Sources: Amazon, via WP Central



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520 is a better device
By coburn_c on 8/13/2014 10:59:10 AM , Rating: 4
The 530 has half the Storage and an inconsequential processor upgrade.

Windows Phone doesn't need the extra performance, and all other specs are equal, the new model is a dud.

Pick this up now for the moms in your life; it's the perfect old lady smartphone.




RE: 520 is a better device
By OS on 8/13/2014 11:01:43 AM , Rating: 2
Indeed, excellent phone at this price even for just voice. Windows phone maps also works offline.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Belegost on 8/13/2014 11:09:17 AM , Rating: 2
At this price I bought one just to stick in the car, offline maps + a pile of music on the uSD card for less than 50 bucks? Yes please.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/13/2014 1:53:56 PM , Rating: 2
I just bought one as well. For $40, it'll be a backup phone for my wife (who has a tendency to drop her phones).


RE: 520 is a better device
By Mitch101 on 8/14/2014 4:17:52 PM , Rating: 2
Tempted to replace my Zune 30 in my Ford Fusion with this.

Amazon also has the AT&T Nokia Lumia 635 - No Contract GoPhone is $99.99 & FREE Shipping

The Lumia 635 isn’t your average smart phone. Powered by Windows Phone 8.1, a Quad core processor and supporting a microSD card of up to 128GB of memory , it’s fast and smooth. It’s also got apps that update easily with live tiles on your screen at 4G LTE speeds. Don’t forget the inclusion of a free streaming music service – all at a great price!


RE: 520 is a better device
By Reclaimer77 on 8/14/2014 4:46:51 PM , Rating: 2
And people say I'm a paid shill for Samsung?

quote:
The Lumia 635 isn’t your average smart phone. Powered by Windows Phone 8.1, a Quad core processor and supporting a microSD card of up to 128GB of memory , it’s fast and smooth. It’s also got apps that update easily with live tiles on your screen at 4G LTE speeds. Don’t forget the inclusion of a free streaming music service – all at a great price!


This doesn't even read as if you wrote it. In fact, I'm CERTAIN you didn't.

Oh look, what do you know folks? He copied that WORD FOR WORD from Nokia.com!!!

http://www.nokia.com/us-en/phones/phone/lumia635/

"UNCOMPROMISED PERFORMANCE

The Lumia 635 isn’t your average smart phone. Powered by Windows Phone 8.1, a Quad core processor and supporting a microSD card of up to 128GB of memory, it’s fast and smooth. It’s also got apps that update easily with live tiles on your screen at 4G LTE speeds. Don’t forget the inclusion of a free streaming music service – all at a great price!"


So not only is Mitch a paid shill, but he's a plagiarist too!


RE: 520 is a better device
By Mitch101 on 8/14/2014 5:12:56 PM , Rating: 2
I didnt and Im not sure what point your trying to make or actually care but It was a good hardware description and I actually pulled it from Amazon. It was in Amazon's recommendation list when looking at the 520. Sorry to burst your conspiracy shill plot your trying to make. I guess your trying to improve your credibility but failing to do so. But if you want a confession I love my Windows Phone its been nothing but great to me. The secret is out.

http://www.amazon.com/AT-Nokia-Lumia-635-Contract/...

For $100.00 plus I have a 64gb memory card lying around I can throw it in my fusion to replace my Zune 30. The downside to my Zune 30 is that I had to dumb down my wifi WPA with lax security on it for wireless sync to continue to operate as I pull into the driveway or just before I leave it wireless syncs with my PC so I leave it in the center console. With this I can up my wifi security and have the same functionality along with another 30+ gig of music/podcasts storage space.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Mitch101 on 8/14/2014 5:17:45 PM , Rating: 2
Another possibility is If my battery is drained I can pull the SIM and use the second phone without having to wait for my main one to charge since the second one would always plugged into the USB port of the car for SYNC. I literally haven't seen my brown brick in the 3+ years its been in the console. I leave it there year round hoping winter or heat will kill it but it lives on. I should name it Christine but she does the job.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Reclaimer77 on 8/15/2014 8:26:52 AM , Rating: 2
Can we cut the crap? You "pulled" things from Amazon and posted it as your own viewpoint, without quoting your source. That's not only morally wrong, but it calls into question YOUR credibility, not mine.

I mean you couldn't even change a few words around, or just tell us how YOU personally enjoy the phone? You had to just copy and paste directly from somewhere else? Honestly, you're really going to sit here and pretend that's cool? How can you defend that!?

I'm certain you've done this before, a lot of your posts have this PR campaign vibe tone to them. But this time I Googled it and the very first hit was from Nokia.com.

I hope everyone sees this and realizes that you cannot be trusted, you have a clear agenda here, and you'll go as low as to STEAL someone else's writing in order to help sell a commercial product.

I'm pretty sure if I copied PR nonsense directly from Google.com or Samsung.com I would be roasted alive here. By you of all people. You think you can just skate past this with some BS excuse?

No you got busted here pal. I hope you enjoy this conversation, because you're going to see it a lot in the future.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Mitch101 on 8/15/2014 9:34:47 AM , Rating: 1
I'm guessing you have run out of ideas to try and discredit others. Sure I took it from Amazon I admitted that. Whats your point? Its a good description of the device.

WTF are you even talking about? I work in tech but in the financial industry get a grip on reality you have clearly fallen off the deep end and need professional help.

You might be nuttier than Tony Swash now.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Reclaimer77 on 8/15/2014 10:27:34 AM , Rating: 2
Wow...so you really see nothing wrong with putting forth others ideas and writing as if it was your own? That's wrong, plain and simple. How many times have you done this here anyway? Who knows!

You only "admitted" it because I called you out on it! And you still seem to think you did nothing wrong or dishonest.

So whenever you go and make your "Reclaimer free Daily Tech" you've talked about, are you simply going to lift articles word for word from other tech site bloggers too without giving them credit?

I don't have to "discredit" you here, your actions have done that far better than I ever could.

And Tony Swash? You don't even deserve to use his name that way. At least he writes his own posts!


RE: 520 is a better device
By Mitch101 on 8/15/2014 2:19:40 PM , Rating: 1
WTF is wrong with you?


RE: 520 is a better device
By coburn_c on 8/13/2014 11:02:40 AM , Rating: 3
**note: pair it with a Windows 8.1 system and their photos, contacts, and accounts sync seamlessly to the desktop

It + Metro means they get to experience all the features of this millennium without knowing how to


RE: 520 is a better device
By BioHazardous on 8/13/2014 11:27:41 AM , Rating: 2
I actually bought a 520 about 2 weeks ago to have as a device for Endomondo when I go running. I didn't like carrying my S5 with me running. Seems to work fine for my purposes, but haven't actually tried to use it for much.

I thought the feature to automatically connect to open Wi-Fi networks and accept their terms to connecting was a neat feature. Not sure if that exists elsewhere already, but just noticed it while playing with settings. Particularly useful for a device you never plan to connect to an actual AT&T plan.

If you want a different color one, they sell the colored back covers/shells on microsoftstore.com. (my wife wanted the yellow one). They're pretty slick devices for the price. I also looked at the newer model a bit and realized it was actually worse in some areas. I believe the graphics processor is worse on the 530 from what I remember.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Alexvrb on 8/13/2014 7:50:32 PM , Rating: 2
I agree that it doesn't really strike me as an upgrade so much as a cost-cutting version. Of course if it's just as good and they can make a better margin, more power to them. In some ways it is even a little better. These are targeted at people who don't need a higher-end smartphone, just something that works well enough, and at less-wealthy nations.

Regarding CPU horsepower: The OS itself might not require more power but some apps can take advantage of it. The quad core in the 530 is a good bit more powerful, and I'd bet you can even notice it while browsing demanding desktop webpages (I rarely bother with mobile versions of sites myself). The extra cores will also help the phone run smoother with stuff running in the background (such as app updates).

The display is also slightly higher resolution, although the difference is not substantial. The lack of internal storage was kind of silly on the one hand but on the other hand anyone who plans to actually use either of these phones is going to drop a microSD card in it. WP 8.1 has far better support for memory cards and so you don't really need the internal storage. A good brand name 32GB UHS-I mSD card can be had for around $20.

I would like to see them release "Plus" variants of their low-end models with more storage and RAM, at a somewhat higher price.


RE: 520 is a better device
By StevoLincolnite on 8/14/2014 3:27:20 AM , Rating: 2
CPU horsepower is a tricky one.

The CPU in the Lumia 530 may indeed loose out in single and dual-threaded scenario's when compared against the Dual-Core Krait in the 520. (Derived Cortex A9 for the 520 and derived Cortex A7 for the 530)

Besides, more-cores isn't always better, just take a look at the Pentium Anniversary, even with the same architecture, reduced cache, bandwidth etc', once overclocked can hang with it's big-boy quad-core brothers despite being crippled.

Plus, the GPU in the Lumia 530 got a bit of a downgrade too. (Adreno 302 vs 305)
So gaming (Which the 520 was pretty darn' acceptable at) is going to take a hit.

And the screen got downgraded, basically the increase in screen resolution is to accommodate for the "Windows Buttons" which were physically on the bottom of the phone but now is part of the phones GUI. - So no, you don't really gain any additional real-world usable screen resolution.
Plus they downgraded the screen from an IPS panel to a TFT panel, so viewing angles and colours got hit AND you loose the glance feature.

Then you have the reduction in storage space, which may or may not be a problem for some.

For now, the Lumia 520 is easily the better steal, if you want more Ram to play everything in the windows store, then the Lumia 525 is the better option with it's 1Gb of Ram, with all other aspects being identical to the 520.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Reclaimer77 on 8/14/2014 8:36:31 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Besides, more-cores isn't always better, just take a look at the Pentium Anniversary, even with the same architecture, reduced cache, bandwidth etc', once overclocked can hang with it's big-boy quad-core brothers despite being crippled.


Key words: Once OVERCLOCKED.

I don't see this as being a solid argument. If you overclocked the 'quad core brothers' the same percentage, the Anniversary would still be that much more behind.

Looks like the 530 is a step down in a lot of ways. Which is kind of surprising because the 520 was pretty much as low as you could get.

Not that it will matter. The same Windows Phone fanbois will be on here claiming the 530 is the best phone on the planet too.


RE: 520 is a better device
By ritualm on 8/14/2014 12:55:27 PM , Rating: 2
Oh looky here, it's Reclaimer77 bashing Windows Phone (again!) and subliminally cheering Google/Android in the same time!

You're just too predictable, and your schtick is getting old.

Just like how the other guy said, your day job is all about trolling for Google/Samsung. There is no other explanation.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Reclaimer77 on 8/14/2014 2:46:57 PM , Rating: 2
Believe me, if I had subliminal powers you would have killed yourself long ago.


RE: 520 is a better device
By ritualm on 8/15/2014 12:20:18 PM , Rating: 2
ROFL, Reclaimer77 threatening someone with death on the internets.


RE: 520 is a better device
By StevoLincolnite on 8/14/2014 6:19:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Key words: Once OVERCLOCKED.


You're missing the point completely, which for you, isn't entirely unexpected.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Alexvrb on 8/14/2014 8:37:51 PM , Rating: 2
No, I'm afraid you're mistaken. The G3258 Pentium in question has to be overclocked heavily to hang tough with higher-end dual cores. Anandtech has an article on it - they were comparing it to a lowly i3-4330. A 3.5Ghz dual core with hyperthreading that lacks turbo. Even then, in order to be competitive (and sometimes still lose) the Pentium had to be overclocked to 4.7Ghz. Look at the gaming benchmarks. They remove the GPU bottleneck by adding a second 770, and despite a 1.2Ghz clock advantage the i3 still wins more often than not. If the Pentium had HT it would be a true budget overclocking hero like the old Celeron 300A. But it doesn't, so it's not. ;)

Even then I don't feel it's a realistic comparison. Nobody in their right minds is going to murder battery life on their daily driver smartphone by overclocking the heck out of it. :D Yes, the old model Krait (A9-ish) is decent and it might have a somewhat higher IPC, but it has to battle a 20% clock deficit out of the gate, and it has half the cores. In lightly threaded workloads the difference won't be noticeable, and when running well-threaded tasks or multiple tasks the quad-core Snapdragon 200 will run circles around the old dual-Krait.

The Adreno 305 vs 302 is clearly a loss for the 530 but I'd be willing to bet at these low resolutions neither device will run into any issues with any game that manages to fit in the 512MB of memory they both sport. When you move up to the higher-end Lumias with much higher resolution displays it really becomes a necessity.

Regarding the display, isn't it the same size? If so PPI goes up slightly. As for soft buttons can't you do things like hide them or rotate them? Despite all that I did say it was a cost cutting version. I'm just pointing out that it isn't strictly worse. It's really "about the same but cheaper to make". I do hope they do better next time around. I'd like to see some WP devices with Rogue in them.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Mitch101 on 8/14/2014 10:30:06 PM , Rating: 2
The 3258 isnt bad. They are actually neck and neck even in Anadtech's article. Even came close to some of the 4690k numbers. Hey some game engines aren't what they should be.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-...

http://anandtech.com/show/8232/overclockable-penti...

I got a newegg deal for $100.00 G3258 with MSI B85M GAMING mobo for my virtual pinball cabinet build. If your on a serious cash diet its hard to beat a CPU/MOBO combo for $40.00 less than the price of just the i3 and since thats 4.6-4.7ghz on a stock cooler its not bad at all.

If you got extra sure the i3 but for $100.00 Mobo/CPU this was a no brainer.


RE: 520 is a better device
By Reclaimer77 on 8/15/2014 8:36:16 AM , Rating: 2
Please explain to me how I've missed the point?

Your "point" was akin to someone bragging they beat a Porsche 911 Turbo off the line in a Nissan, only to discover they dumped $20k into their cars engine to double it's horsepower rating.

Sure you can overclock the HELL out of an inferior CPU and get more performance out of it, but uhhh, YOU'VE missed the point! That's where the comparison ceases to be relevant because you're no longer comparing stock to stock clocks and IPC...


RE: 520 is a better device
By StevoLincolnite on 8/18/2014 5:35:54 AM , Rating: 2
You're still missing the point.

Perhaps one day you may understand, young whippersnapper.

Back in my day we weren't so uptight and ready to jump the gun.


RE: 520 is a better device
By atechfan on 8/16/2014 8:35:29 AM , Rating: 2
This Windows Phone fanboy doesn't see the point to the 530. Why get it when the 520 is both better and cheaper? The 530 is a rather disappointing handset, whereas the 520 was actually very good for the price when released.


do these
By stevessvt on 8/13/2014 12:01:38 PM , Rating: 2
Do they come unlocked?




RE: do these
By Gunbuster on 8/13/2014 1:22:41 PM , Rating: 2
Nope, you would have to buy an unlock.


RE: do these
By sprockkets on 8/13/2014 1:30:27 PM , Rating: 2
locked to att.

Cricket versions (also basically att but better prices for slower speeds) is $50

Tmob wants like around $80 or so for the 521.

Seeing how each major carrier offers it might as well get the vastly cheaper locked version.


RE: do these
By ritualm on 8/13/2014 4:01:37 PM , Rating: 2
I'm really tempted to buy this one as a spare, but seeing it locked to AT&T is balls, and I don't live in the US. What unlocking options do I have?


RE: do these
By Peter-B on 8/14/2014 8:32:36 AM , Rating: 2
I tried to buy it, but they don't ship it abroad, at least not to Switzerland. I don't care if it's locked, I just want it to get familiar with Windows Phone 8.1


RE: do these
By ritualm on 8/14/2014 12:59:35 PM , Rating: 2
Grab a Nokia Lumia 620 (3G only) or 625 (with LTE, also somewhat larger) then.


Straight Talk
By ChelseaOilman on 8/13/2014 1:45:19 PM , Rating: 4
I just got a Straight Talk Wireless SIM which uses the AT&T network for my Nokia 520. Now I just get Straigh Talk cards from Walmart. A lot cheaper than using AT&T.




RE: Straight Talk
By plonk420 on 8/14/2014 12:46:06 AM , Rating: 2
but does this $40 phone work on ST?


RE: Straight Talk
By ChelseaOilman on 8/15/2014 6:10:09 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, this phone works on ST as long as you switch the SIM to a ST SIM. It's the exact same AT&T GoPhone I purchased last time Amazon had them on sale for $49.99. I just bought another as a spare during this current sale. Because it's locked you'll be using the AT&T network. In my remote location AT&T works better than the Verizon network.


Great little phone.
By Gunbuster on 8/13/2014 11:27:26 AM , Rating: 2
Have the 521 T-Mobile versions. Great little phones, takes a beating too. For this price get one just to use for snowboarding or going out to the bar. If it gets wrecked/lost you wont care.




RE: Great little phone.
By hughlle on 8/13/2014 12:13:34 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly, at this price, it doesn't make much sense not to buy one. It always amazes me how many people seemingly don't give 2 damns about very expensive hardware and the next morning post a message on facebook saying my iphone has been stolen, lost, broken give me your numbers. If i am going trekking, i don't wear my dinner jacket, because it will quite likely get ruined, why would i treat my phone any different?


RE: Great little phone.
By Gunbuster on 8/13/2014 1:21:27 PM , Rating: 2
Indeed, most consumers don't realize how crazy the real price of their phone is, for example an iPhone 5S 32GB is over EIGHTEEN times more expensive than this handset.

Can you imagine choosing between two products in the store that both do the same thing (Call, Txt, internet) and selecting the one that costs 18X more?

$90 Taco Bell Box? $3900 walk behind lawn mower? $540,000 Midrange sedan?


heh @ CPU
By plonk420 on 8/14/2014 12:50:07 AM , Rating: 2
i didn't notice the CPU specs until i'd done my first reply, but i just bought a 1.2ghz dualcore LG running Android 4.4 for Straight Talk $30 brand new at A Big Chain Known for Abusing Employees that works on Page Plus (Verizon MVNO), no flashing or rooting.

sadly, i'm assuming the Nokia will have a better camera *knock on wood*




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