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HP TouchPad
Combining Staples discounts will get you a 16GB HP TouchPad for $350

HP's webOS 3-based TouchPad has been on the market for only a few weeks, but you can already find the 9.7" tablet for much less than MSRP. Members over at Slickdeals are reporting that both HP's online and store and OfficeMax will be selling the 16GB and 32GB versions of the tablet for $399 and $499 respectively from August 5 through August 7 -- this marks a $100 price cut from the original MSRPs.

If $100 isn't enough of a price drop for you, Staples currently has an even hotter deal. They currently have an instant discount of $50 off 16GB and 32GB TouchPads. They also have an additional $100 off coupon (in-store only) which lasts until August 7. That means that you could get a 16GB TouchPad for $350 or a 32GB version for $450. 

HP's TouchPad got off to a rocky start with reviewers, as they complained about a lack of apps and bugs/performance issues that cropped up with the latest iteration of webOS. Reviewers also didn't have many kind words to say about the build quality and heft of HP's latest tablet entry. 

HP has addressed most of the bugs with the webOS 3.0.2 update, but those wanting a more svelte webOS-based tablet will have to wait until the next generation.

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Want a bigger/better ecosystem
By BPB on 8/4/2011 8:47:19 AM , Rating: 2
I’d consider this, but I want a bigger and better ecosystem, so I am waiting for a Windows 8 tablet. Of course I have an Android phone, so I am also considering Windows Phone 7 for my next phone. I think if WebOS had more available options with which HP could tie this together it would be more appealing.

RE: Want a bigger/better ecosystem
By Flunk on 8/4/2011 8:55:29 AM , Rating: 2
You're right there. WebOs seems like a fantastic OS but without developer buy-in it's not going anywhere.

I develop apps for phones in my spare time and there is no reason I would put out a version of any of my current products for WebOS because I would need to extensively recode them (from C#) to Javascript (which I, and many other developers, are not keen on).

I doubt I would ever make enough on them to make the money back. I'd have to charge $50 for an app that sells for $3 on other platforms. For anyone who likes WebOS, Windows Phone 7 offers a similar level of effortlessness and fluidity along with a lot more hardware and developer buy-in. Of course there is always Android.

RE: Want a bigger/better ecosystem
By Mitch101 on 8/4/2011 9:36:10 AM , Rating: 3
One thing all these companies need to learn is if your going to come out with an unestablished platform you need to sell the hardware at a loss to gain market share. Make the money on selling Apps and build a following for your product. The cost of building the hardware will come down over time and eventually you make money on the hardware but the apps is where the money is for now.

This is the way the Game Consoles established their following. They sell the hardware at a loss and make the money on games. Once an established base has been created your good to go.

RE: Want a bigger/better ecosystem
By amanojaku on 8/4/2011 10:22:01 AM , Rating: 3
Normally, I agree with you. Unfortunately, that model woudln't work for Google, I think.
Starting in early Q1, developers will also be able to distribute paid apps in addition to free apps. Developers will get 70% of the revenue from each purchase; the remaining amount goes to carriers and billing settlement fees—Google does not take a percentage. We believe this revenue model creates a fair and positive experience for users, developers, and carriers.

As far as I can tell, Google doesn't make money off of Android licensing. I'm sure there's still an indirect revenue path with search, location data, carrier contracts, etc... but I never realized how much of a risk Android was for Google until now. No wonder Apple is rich...

By Mitch101 on 8/4/2011 11:34:40 AM , Rating: 2
Google also isn't taking the risk on the hardware the manufacturers are. They are only providing the software and they make their money collecting information on the user and their purchases.

By bubbastrangelove on 8/4/2011 10:36:56 AM , Rating: 2
I'm guessing Netflix streaming is out of the question because of WebOS...anyone know if that's the deelio?

RE: Nextflix
By GreyMulkin on 8/4/2011 12:43:55 PM , Rating: 2
I believe WebOS has Flash and that works just fine.

RE: Nextflix
By GreyMulkin on 8/4/2011 12:55:27 PM , Rating: 2
Seems I got bad information as this is not the case.

RE: Nextflix
By n00bxqb on 8/4/2011 12:56:42 PM , Rating: 2
No, Netflix brings a page up saying you must be running Windows or Mac OS in order to use it, which is lame. It has to have an App to run it on non-Windows tablets.

RE: Nextflix
By mrjminer on 8/4/2011 6:19:03 PM , Rating: 2
Perhaps someone that owns a WebOS system can try replacing their browser's user agent string with a desktop version?

If that doesn't work, then maybe there's a Silverlight setting / key that can be altered...

By VooDooAddict on 8/4/2011 10:34:29 PM , Rating: 3
At $350 it's a better budget buy then a $300 knock off.

TouchPad has better software and hardware out of the box then the no-name non-multitouch android tablets based off ancient 2.x android builds.

Going, going, gone!
By melgross on 8/4/2011 11:51:55 AM , Rating: 2
If there was any question as to whether these things were selling or not, this pretty much answers the question. They are not.

I suppose it's too bad, but it is what it is. It does seem that there are no tablets other than the iPad that are selling. The largest assumed sales were for Samsungs' Tabs, but now that they have said that they will no longer give out sales numbers for tablets and phones, we can see that they are not selling well. The Playbook is a failure. So this isn't surprising.

We can't go by numbers shipped, and this is why some companies that announced fairly big shipped numbers in the past are no longer announcing them.

By vision33r on 8/4/2011 3:30:31 PM , Rating: 2
Anytime you see a price cut immediately made is to help polish off excess inventory.

When you see the WebPad needed a pricecut, obviously it is sitting taking up space at retail.

Many of the Android tablets like the Asus Transformer, Xoom, and even the new Samsung GalaxyTab is also selling slowly as excess inventories are keeping their prices low.

The Asus TF was hard to find but now it is selling at $349 with deals and GalaxyTab is at $439 below $499. These things obviously are only popular to geeks or Apple haters.

Everywhere and everybody else is buying iPads. Businesses and schools everywhere are buying them. Android tablets are just beta wannabe tablets.

By JonathanKramer on 8/8/2011 5:30:54 PM , Rating: 2
There are better alternatives. GiveMeApps doesn't charge developer fees, and gives developers 100% of their profits. They also help market your app with reviews, have customizable store fronts with social media tools and blog/news feeds to help you do business, all with an active forum to boot. I've been using GiveMeApps for about a month now and have been making decent coin which is a must in this crappy economy......

By lawrance on 8/5/2011 8:43:03 AM , Rating: 1
"but those wanting a more svelte webOS-based tablet will have to wait until the next generation."

Could be written:

"but those wanting a more svelte tablet should buy an iPad."

Too little too late HP
By Pirks on 8/4/11, Rating: -1
RE: Too little too late HP
By Mitch101 on 8/4/2011 12:38:47 PM , Rating: 3
WHAT? Playbook? Have you seen their sales?

Android Tablets are eating away at the iPad sales (ASUS Eee Pad, MOTOROLA XOOM, Acer Iconia, Toshiba Thrive, Samsung Galaxy) by 4th quarter iPad sales will be the runner up. As for the cheap china knockoffs you get what you pay for.

If Apple isn't worried why even try block Samsung Galaxy tablets?

As for HP they will probably give a good run but ultimtely move on to Android or Windows 8. When Windows 8 tablets come out good luck competing with Microsoft Office, Sharepoint, Lync, and X-Box.

RE: Too little too late HP
By Pirks on 8/4/2011 2:46:47 PM , Rating: 1
What? A Mac? Have you seen their sales compared to PCs?

Oh wait...

RE: Too little too late HP
By n00bxqb on 8/4/2011 1:11:05 PM , Rating: 2
As polished as the Playbook ? Ha! Have you ever used the Playbook, let alone owned one ? I assume not, because it is STILL buggy as hell 4 months after release! I made the mistake of buying the Playbook on launch day and sold it about a month ago because RIM had done nothing to improve it, the app selection sucked, and about the only thing good about it were the cameras (which you still can't even use for Skype).

I tried the Asus Transformer for a short period, but the lack of multitasking bothered me plus it, too, was pretty buggy as well (lots of freezing issues). I traded that in for an HP TouchPad as I've always liked webOS, so I wanted to give it a shot. It's definitely a lot better than the Playbook. Web browsing is equal (then again, so is Android) to the Playbook, the TouchPad already has more and better apps, it multitasks better, and I don't know where you're getting your info from, but the TouchPad is nowhere near slow. One of the great things about webOS is the Homebrew community which makes it very easy to load on custom software, patches, and kernels.

The Playbook is at the bottom of the heap as far as I'm concerned. I've only had the TouchPad for a few days, but I am enjoying it so far. Oh, and inductive charging = win.

RE: Too little too late HP
By Pirks on 8/4/2011 2:55:27 PM , Rating: 2
I dunno what magic Touchpad did you get but my Playbook is significantly faster, especially in web browsing, I hate constant delays and freezes when Touchpad browses heavy web sites, while Playbook flies through them like a freakin' rocket. And there are no apps for Touchpad since it's been released way later than Playbook, so good luck with that straw man. Your multitasking argument is funny too since there can't be better mutitasking than on a Playbook by definition. It's as good as technically possible with QNX and RIM GUI shell on top.

And Touchpad and iPad are so huge and heavy and inconvenient conmpared to 7" Playbook, I can't believe people are that dumb to suffer their weight and excessive size. I understand iPad 'cause there are gazillions of fart app lovers, but Touchpad? Excuse me? No fart apps, nothing but the slow OS, ugly slow browser and huge size and weight compared to really portable and light Playbook. I don't get it at the moment. Will try Touchpad later again but for now it's a real dud, not a tablet. A pain to use compared to my playbook.

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