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The information leaks continue when it comes to the iPhone 6

Apple definitely isn’t the only game in town when it comes to smartphones, but the fervor surrounding each upcoming iPhone release definitely eclipses smartphone launches from other manufacturers. In keeping with that tradition, physical 3D models of the device compared to the current flagship iPhone 5s along with supposed schematics of the upcoming iPhone 6 have been leaked to the internet.
 
The physical mockups of the iPhone 6 show a device that is thinner, wider and taller than the iPhone 5s – the mockup measure in at 5.43” long, 2.63” wide, and 0.27” thick. Whereas the iPhone 5s has more hardened edges, the iPhone 6 has “softer” curves reminiscent of the original iPhone.


 
The latest mockup also clearly shows the repositioning of the lock button from the top of the device to the right hand side. Given the iPhone 6 is quite a it taller than the iPhone 5s, the new button placement will allow users to more easily power on/off the device one-handed.

 
One thing to note, however, is that the mockup doesn’t appear to show provisions for the dual-LED camera flash as seen on the iPhone 5s.
 
Also leaked over the weekend from Feng.com were 3D design schematics for the iPhone 6. The schematics match up nicely with the physical mockups, so either this is very close to the final design for the iPhone 6 or someone really has a lot of time on their hands to fake all of this leaked information.

 
The iPhone 6 is said to feature a 4.7” display (with a much higher resolution than the existing 1136x640 iPhone 5s), A8 processor, 802.11ac wireless, and hopefully LTE-A support.

Sources: Feng.com, NWE



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4.7" Display? Really?
By peterrushkin on 5/12/2014 10:12:03 AM , Rating: 2
Hardly an improvement over the current generation.

Colour me very unimpressed so far.

I'll be hoping for none of this: oh we'll refresh with a 5.5" next year b.s. I'll be jumping ship to someone else.




RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 10:15:12 AM , Rating: 5
You haven't already? Get with the times man!


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By laststop311 on 5/13/14, Rating: -1
RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By MikeDiction on 5/13/2014 10:01:28 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
If apple releases a 5.5" iphone 6 I will probably give them another shot. As long as it is fully jailbroken and i can sideload whatever stuff i want for free. I love my rooted android and refuse to pay for apps and games.


Thanks kid, glad you're enjoying yourself. Just one thing to keep in mind whenever you become an adult: All the rooting software, ROM's, games, applications and even pirated apps were done by somebody using their valuable time and skills for benefit of people other than themselves.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By Reclaimer77 on 5/13/2014 12:04:11 PM , Rating: 2
Here's a question. What would iOS look like on a phone that big? Just more space between the icons?

Anyone that has used an iPad knows what I'm getting at. iOS's UI gets more stupid and ugly looking the bigger the screen gets. It's horrible!


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By quiksilvr on 5/12/2014 10:32:49 AM , Rating: 5
Just because it doesn't cater to a particular person's needs doesn't mean this move just opened up a lot of doors from them.

It's 2014 but there is finally a 1080p iPhone with a decent screen size.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By Bateluer on 5/12/2014 5:16:27 PM , Rating: 2
> It's 2014 but there is finally a 1080p iPhone with a decent screen size.

Technically, no, there isn't. Nothing has been announced officially yet. Only the rumor mill and blogosphere.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 5:38:00 PM , Rating: 2
OK, granted its not out yet, but this is not just a rumor... You cant hide from the supply chain at this late of a date. Especially for something that will be made in the 10's of millions. These parts that go into phones all need to be pre-ordered, staff hired and production ramped up. We are talking 10's of thousands of people mobilized on the supply chain. The larger screen iPhone is a done deal, not a rumor. Just an unannounced product that will definitely be here.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By synapse46 on 5/12/2014 10:49:09 AM , Rating: 2
I don't even like apple and I thought it was neat.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By bhaberle on 5/12/2014 11:06:42 AM , Rating: 4
I guess I am part of the minority as everyone else seems to think a larger phone is better now... but I do not want a huge phone that can barely fit in my pocket.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By inighthawki on 5/12/2014 11:09:21 AM , Rating: 3
I agree. The 4.7" screen is actually a selling point for me.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By BRB29 on 5/12/2014 12:39:58 PM , Rating: 3
Yep, i want the 4.7", not the 5.5". The size looks like it should fit just fine in my pockets. I normally to wear fitted or tailored clothes so pockets can get tight.

I thought my Samsung Galaxy Nexus was the perfect size at 4.65 but I didn't like the build quality or the half-day battery life. When upgrade time comes, every phone was going for 5". iPhone was the only choice for a high end small phone. But 4" is too small.

The only thing I hate about this new design is the fact that it looks like an iPad Air or Mini Retina shrunken down. I like the edgy sides better.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By inighthawki on 5/12/2014 9:10:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The only thing I hate about this new design is the fact that it looks like an iPad Air or Mini Retina shrunken down. I like the edgy sides better.

I was thinking the same thing. Not a huge fan of all the roundedness. As someone who has in the past been pretty open of my dislike towards Apple, I have been a fan of the iPhone hardware since iPhone 4. If I could've gotten an iPhone 4+ with the Windows Phone OS on it, I would've been a happy camper, and happily spent the money for it. (There's a few people here probably cringing in their seat right about now)


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/13/2014 8:28:03 AM , Rating: 2
I kind of like the rounded edges. Somewhat unique. The lack of sharp edges gives it kind of a more modern look, and it will make it easier to slide that "gargantuan phone" onto your pocket ;)


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 11:10:45 AM , Rating: 1
If you like a small phone, that's cool, there are options... But "barely fit in my pocket"? This confuses me. I can fit my Wife's old Note 2 in my pockets and it was 5.5 with large bezels (by today's standards). Millions of people all over the world are putting phablets in their pockets without even noticing it.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By peterrushkin on 5/12/2014 11:21:10 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly. Insert the 4" crowd must have really small appendages for their hipster tight jeans.

I have small hands, but after using a friends Note 3, its hard to use another iphone.

Also since when is the iphone 6 1080? Or is that more speculation?


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By inighthawki on 5/12/2014 11:41:56 AM , Rating: 5
Personally, I prefer smaller phones (~4.5") because of the way I hold and use my phone with one hand. For me it has nothing to do with the size of fitting it in my pocket. I have tried several 5.5 and 6" devices and they're not my thing.

That said, I don't see why there seems to be this cult around large display phones being the best and how everyone who likes smaller phones is just dumb or inexperienced or something. What is so bad about a 4.5 or 4.7" display on the iPhone? Clearly there are still enough people out there making it wildly successful that either don't care or like the size.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By Reclaimer77 on 5/12/2014 12:54:08 PM , Rating: 1
I think we're just tired of every new phone announcement being accompanied by the token "OMG TOO BIGZORZ" by the Apple fanbase.

It's obvious that some of you, not all, have been so indoctrinated by Apple's rigid 'one size fits all' mantra, that you seem almost incapable of embracing just how much choice is out there outside your walled garden.

This bias seems to have gotten to the point that any advanced NOT brought forth by Apple are instantly shunned, called gimmicks, or dismissed altogether.

I was pretty shocked at some of the responses on the LG G3 QHD discussion last week. It made our entire community look like a bunch of technically illiterate Luddites. This is what Apple does to people!

You just know that if Apple came out with QHD displays first, these same people would be falling all over themselves in glee and anticipation.

But instead we get caveman logic of "Big phones + QHD = stoopid!". And why? Because Apple didn't do it first...

Here we are with the same double standard. Big phones are stupid, until Apple releases their own, then they're great. Proving that their problem never was big phones, it was just an excuse to bash OEM's that compete with Apple.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By BRB29 on 5/12/2014 1:13:49 PM , Rating: 2
"It's obvious that some of you, not all, have been so indoctrinated by Apple's rigid 'one size fits all' mantra, - See more at: http://www.dailytech.com/Physical+Mockup+of+Apples..."

or we can stop judging people and just let them buy what they want...


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 1:21:48 PM , Rating: 2
"or we can stop judging people and just let them buy what they want..."

That is exactly what he is saying... You are putting an "or" in but agreeing. He is referring to the multitude of people here at this site that crap all over any large screen or high res phone that comes out. If you dont want it dont buy it, but let the market give us options. not everyone wants the same thing.

As far as the above. I think its a great idea for Apple to offer all 3, a 4, a 4.7 and a 5.5 inch iPhone. That is just smart business.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 1:13:59 PM , Rating: 2
"Here we are with the same double standard. Big phones are stupid, until Apple releases their own, then they're great. Proving that their problem never was big phones, it was just an excuse to bash OEM's that compete with Apple."

Gauranteed, when Apple finally releases a 5.5 inch phone with res matching what the competition is offering (and the 5.5 IS coming) it will be perfect. Perfect size and perfect res to all the Apple yahoo's smacking down larger screens and higher res today.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By tayb on 5/12/2014 11:33:22 AM , Rating: 3
Your jeans must extraordinarily baggy. There is no way in hell I could fit a 5.5" phone in any pocket on my person. These aren't skin tight jeans just normal non-baggy jeans. I have a few pairs of shorts that it would fit in but it wouldn't be all that comfortable to sit down.

My problem with huge phones is that you can't really use them with one hand. I never use my phone with two hands. Anything above 5" and I can't reach the notification bar with my thumb. Phablets aren't for me.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 11:37:13 AM , Rating: 2
No, just normal Levis, not at all baggy. Your are too tight. :P .

Like I said, millions of these sold, no-one is complaining about jeans pockets.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By inighthawki on 5/12/2014 11:43:36 AM , Rating: 2
Just to be clear, front or back pocket?


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 12:58:46 PM , Rating: 2
Front.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By tayb on 5/12/2014 1:59:15 PM , Rating: 2
Sitting down or standing up? I can fit a phone in my pocket to walk around but sitting down feels like I am going to break the phone.

I have a very hard time believing you can comfortably sit down with a 3"x5" thick rectangle in your front pocket. Actually, I don't believe it at all. If you can fit that giant rectangle in your pocket while sitting down your pants are extremely baggy. Basic geometry.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By distinctively on 5/12/2014 5:04:12 PM , Rating: 2
I work in construction and my Galaxy Note 2 resides in my front pocket all day long. That's sitting, standing or whatever maneuver the situation requires. It's really no different than my Nexus 4 was. My pants are not "extremely baggy"


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 5:50:01 PM , Rating: 2
? Yes sitting down. As does everyone with the Note series... A giant rectangle? Exactly how much larger do you think these are than a regular phone? We are talking a 4 inch screen to a 5.9 inch screen. Not a 8 inch screen. We are lookign at actual height of 4.87 inches long to 5.95 inches long from the smallest popular small phone to the largest popular phablet. That is only 1.08 inches longer - less than 20%. LEts all get a grip.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Apple-iPhone-5s_i...

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-No...


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By Reclaimer77 on 5/12/2014 6:02:35 PM , Rating: 3
Why do people have to resort to these insane arguments to fight against the inevitability of larger phones?

We have people here saying they physically "cannot hold" a 5+" phone with one hand. Just...come on, that's not even believable.

Now we have this attempt, the "I can't fit them in my pockets" BS. Just..LOL. Okay guys, whatever.

Unless Daily Tech has an impossibly high percentage of little people (dwarfs), I'm calling this a bunch of fanboi horsesh*t.

And yeah, good call on the little refresher course. Kinda sad that on a 'tech site' we have to inform people screen sizes are measured DIAGONALLY!


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 6:16:38 PM , Rating: 2
I dunno, isn't it funny though? All that fuss about slightly over 1 inch difference in height from the smallest end of the spectrum (iPhone) to the to the large end (Note3)? LOL.

"I can fit my 4.87 inch iPhone just fine, but add 1 inch to that and I can no longer sit. Now I have to stand all day." /s


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By flyingpants1 on 5/12/2014 7:34:58 PM , Rating: 1
At least try to use logical arguments when attacking iPhone users. Of course 1" can make a large difference for some people.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 8:41:56 PM , Rating: 3
right back at you. If you don't like a large phone that's perfectly fine no one can argue with that. What to say it doesn't fit in your pocket when something thats really close in size 1 inch shorter fits fine is ridiculous. That's all I'm saying


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By Reclaimer77 on 5/12/2014 8:52:15 PM , Rating: 2
We're not attacking iPhone users. We're just saying to stop lying.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By inighthawki on 5/12/2014 8:58:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
We have people here saying they physically "cannot hold" a 5+" phone with one hand. Just...come on, that's not even believable.

As one of the two people in this article that has even mentioned one handed use, neither of us stated "cannot hold" at all. What we both did mention, however, is using the phone. This depends entirely on how the person holds a phone. I for example tend to grip my phone with my whole hand. I actually have a super old Samsung focus flash (3.7" display, 4.5" in height) and even with that I can have some trouble reaching the top notification bar on the display with the way I hold it. I actually have fairly large hands, and I have no trouble holding and using a 5" phone either, it's just way more difficult to do everything one handed.

But feel free to tell me "I'm holding it wrong" or something. I'm sure you haven't considered how other people might hold or use their phones, and are probably basing it off your own usage patterns. Not everyone does it the same.

quote:
Why do people have to resort to these insane arguments to fight against the inevitability of larger phones?

Inevitability? Larger phones are already here. Are you saying you're so arrogant as to believe that your belief of only ever having large phones is appropriate for everyone in the world? Why can there not be many sizes to choose from?

quote:
Now we have this attempt, the "I can't fit them in my pockets" BS. Just..LOL. Okay guys, whatever.

I imagine most people are probably referring to the larger phablet phones like the galaxy note 3 or the lumia 1520. I can't imagine many people would have trouble fitting them in a pocket, I can definitely see it being uncomfortable while sitting. I wear fairly baggy cloths though - never jeans - so I can't really comment.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 11:29:52 PM , Rating: 2
"Are you saying you're so arrogant as to believe that your belief of only ever having large phones is appropriate for everyone in the world? Why can there not be many sizes to choose from?"

are you not paying attention to this thread at all? That is what we are saying. There are many sizes available. There are so many phones of all sizes that anyone can get any size they want. Yet there is an incredibly large amount of people here arguing and complaining every time a phone gets bigger or res gets higher. it happens in every article about a new phone. What we are doing is telling these people to shut up and buy the phone that they want. There are hundreds of phones out there. get one that suits your needs and stop complaining every time an OEM makes their flagship bigger.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By Reclaimer77 on 5/13/2014 12:11:00 AM , Rating: 2
It's just amazing...

Do these guys even read posts IN CONTEXT...like ever?


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By inighthawki on 5/13/2014 12:30:58 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry, that's just not at all the tone he comes off with on his reply full of insults and complete arrogance claiming that everyone is completely wrong. The same guy who calls everyone a luddite every time they disagree with a new piece of technology.

Apologies, Reclaimer, if I mistook your post, but you could definitely use some etiquette in your posts. Maybe if they were less insulting they would sound less one sided, and more objective.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By ritualm on 5/13/2014 12:49:53 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
are you not paying attention to this thread at all? That is what we are saying

We? Who is this "we" you're talking about, quack-tro-spooty?

This is turning into a "if you don't like the phones getting bigger, you can go play with your outdated small iPhones!" vs "bigger is not better". You and Reclaimer77 - natch, Testerguy3 - belong in the former. I'm on the same boat as inighthawki right now, and both of you "bigger is better" tards keep saying how we lack context, resistant to change, etc.
quote:
there is an incredibly large amount of people here arguing and complaining every time a phone gets bigger or res gets higher

How is it wrong that some of us want smaller phones? Oh right, because it goes against the idea that "bigger is always better". Which, by the way, has nothing to do with improving usability, but more towards bragging "world's first thisandthat".

You're fine with phones edging towards 6". All I'm going to say is "man, you look effin ridiculous with that 6-inch phone against the side of your head!". Most Android phonemakers don't give a damn about the users anymore. All they care about is bragging rights - "who has the biggest e-Penis in town". It's stupid.
quote:
What we are doing is telling these people to shut up and buy the phone that they want.

Negative. You're telling us that we're wrong in wanting smaller phones, that we should suck it up and buy into bigger and bigger ones.
quote:
There are hundreds of phones out there.

Less than a dozen when it comes to current flagship phones 5" and under. Nope, not buying your argument.

Get off your imaginary high horse and have some respect, both of ya. Calling us "luddites" and "idiots" simply because we disagree with you does not help your cause at all.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/13/2014 1:17:32 PM , Rating: 2
"How is it wrong that some of us want smaller phones? Oh right, because it goes against the idea that "bigger is always better". "

No, you don't get to do that. You cant turn this around. You have been twisting arguments like LOTR's Wyrmtongue for long enough.

We (the people arguing for options) are doing just that. Saying lets leave the options. You on the other hand are complaining every time some OEM comes out with a bigger phone. YOU are wanting to limit options and stifle what the free market is clearly dictating by going with larger phones because more people want larger phones. I will say this again since you seem to not be getting it. Its quite simple.

- If you want a smaller phone, get a smaller phone. No-oone is forcing you to buy anything.

"Which, by the way, has nothing to do with improving usability, but more towards bragging "world's first thisandthat"

That is probably the stupidest part of your immensely stupid argument. It has everything to do with usability. usability is at the very core of wanting a larger screen. Todays phones do so much, regardless of which platform you prefer. To put all that functionality on a tiny screen is a waste to most people, thus the reason we want larger screens. My phone is a tool. I am more productive with a larger screen and higher res period. Secondly it is an entertainment device. A large screeen is better there too.

"You're fine with phones edging towards 6". All I'm going to say is "man, you look effin ridiculous with that 6-inch phone against the side of your head!"

I cant even remember that last time I used it as a phone... but OK. If you are worried about "how it would look" then then that speaks volumes about your mindset (childish and insecure). If that is what you want and what drives your purchase get a small one. No-one is stopping you.

"Most Android phonemakers don't give a damn about the users anymore. All they care about is bragging rights - "who has the biggest e-Penis in town". It's stupid"

You just don't get it do you. I will try once more to explain it and get it through you THICK head. OEM's are not pushing larger screens on the public. The public is wanting larger screens so the OEM's are making them. I don't know how that can be said any clearer. THAT is the root of it and the part you just dont seem to get. What is so hard about it?

There are still small phones available. There is still a 4 inch iPhone. If you want one get one. The majority wants larger so the OEM's even Apple is going larger DEAL WITH IT!

"Negative. You're telling us that we're wrong in wanting smaller phones, that we should suck it up and buy into bigger and bigger ones."

Again, no one said anything like that. It has bee said to you a dozen times, if you want a small phone, go for it, but don't complain that OEM's are making large ones for the majority as that is clearly what the majority wants... Even Apple is going big... You are being a moron. You can quote me on that last part.

"Less than a dozen when it comes to current flagship phones 5" and under. Nope, not buying your argument."

I didn't say hundreds of flagships under 5 inches. I said hundreds of phones are out. If you want a small phone there are options, that is the point.

Get off your imaginary high horse and have some respect, both of ya. Calling us "luddites" and "idiots" simply because we disagree with you does not help your cause at al"

Clearly you are too much of a luddite to grasp why you are being called a luddite. It's not because you want a smaller phone or that you disagree. You are being called a luddite because

A) you cant follow a conversation and are arguing all over the place.
B) You are ignoring facts and getting confused as to what is being said to you
C) you cant grasp the simple concept that the market drives the OEM's to make larger phones , it's not the OEM's driving the market. That isnt how commerce on planet Earth works.

I am done with you on this... You have gone off the deep end of stupid here. Good luck with that.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By Reclaimer77 on 5/13/2014 1:58:33 PM , Rating: 1
Retro..lol man, you have way more patience than me. I just don't understand the problem here at all. We're speaking in the same language but something is getting lost.

I think a lot of it is, the iPhone crowd doesn't really grasp that smartphones are basically personal computers. They're talking about these as if they are "phones" still and describing them as such.

For every hour I spend on my "phone", I probably spend 5+ consuming media or playing games or doing whatever.

Would you hook up a 7" monitor to a Windows PC? Hell no. So why would you question why phone displays are ever-growing? They're computers!


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/13/2014 3:44:45 PM , Rating: 1
I dont know what this guys mental block is. He comes in every article complaining that phones are getting too large. Then people like you and I and others tell him it is what most people want and that options exist for a reason - he dives into a bunch of personal reasons why he personally doesn't like it, then he accuses us of attacking people that want small phones? WTF? We are just explaining why, and that he can still get a small phone. There is the iPhone 5c and 5S, there are many small SP phones, and Androids as well. Tons of them.

Lets take the phone out of this ritual since you cant seem to see clearly on that subject... So lets do a hypothetical... Say most of us all drove small compact economy cars. Then one company starts making bigger and bigger cars and even SUV's and people liked it, so they sell well. Years later other manufacturers are all making large cars and SUV's as well as compact cars. Even long time industry holdouts are getting on board releasing SUV's (like Apple above)... Now these companies still make compact cars, but they make SUV's too, and because most people want the SUV's that is what gets alot of press, so that is what the auto makers concentrate on... Now here you are complaining every single time a new SUV is announced. Explaining that its all "gimmicks" and "Bragging rights" going on and on about it, getting into arguments left and right with anonymous strangers because you don't like the fact that Auto makers are making too many SUV's... Even though it has been explained to you 1000 times, they still make compact cars and you can buy one right now today. What is the hell are you all up in arms about? Just buy the one you want.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By ritualm on 5/13/2014 4:11:43 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
retrospooty's wall of text

So where did I say I wanted a 4" phone? Or is it one of those instances where you put your words in my mouth? Yep, sounds like the latter, doesn't it?

There you go again, closing your ears and claiming I'm a luddite just because I don't agree with you. Keep saying that and maybe it'll stick!
quote:
I think a lot of it is, the iPhone crowd doesn't really grasp that smartphones are basically personal computers. They're talking about these as if they are "phones" still and describing them as such.

Or is it that you can't accept some of us wanting smaller phones? Judgmental pricks.

Both of you claim "go buy the phone you want"... and then say "get with the times, man!" How contradictory and hypocritical.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/13/14, Rating: 0
RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/13/2014 4:40:58 PM , Rating: 1
"There you go again, closing your ears and claiming I'm a luddite just because I don't agree with you. Keep saying that and maybe it'll stick!"

BTW, I explained why I think you are a luddite. Pay attention.

A) you cant follow a conversation and are arguing all over the place.
B) You are ignoring facts and getting confused as to what is being said to you
C) you cant grasp the simple concept that the market drives the OEM's to make larger phones , it's not the OEM's driving the market. That isnt how commerce on planet Earth works.

Dont see "disagrees with my preference in phone size" or anything like it in there.

Really, how old are you? I feel alot like I am arguing with my 10 year old daughter. Your just not able to reason like an adult on this subject.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By FITCamaro on 5/12/2014 12:47:59 PM , Rating: 2
Levi 559s here and I have a Note 2 in my pocket right now. Fits just fine.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 1:02:01 PM , Rating: 2
Same here, and TBH, I am heavier than I was when I got these jeans, they are kind of tight... Still no issue with a Note2, or 3.

I mean, if you like a small phone fine, no one can tell you what you like, but don't use Jeans pockets as a reason to deprive yourself of large screen glory. If you cant fit a phablet into your pants, your pants are too damn tight, period.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By heffeque on 5/12/2014 1:56:31 PM , Rating: 2
Either that... or he's not american and prefers normal clothes instead of large clothes with huge pockets.

Try travelling abroad. You'll be surprised as how quick people are knowing that you're american just by taking a quick glance at you.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 5:01:44 PM , Rating: 1
Seriously? Go to ANY store you shop at that sells ANY jeans... Now look at the rack and grab a pair of your favorite jeans and look at the front pocket - do this on several brands, any and all jeans... It is WAY bigger than any Phablet. If your phone isnt fitting in the pocket it isn't that the pocket is too small, its the fact that there is zero room in between your leg and the jeans because they are too tight. Slacks like you would have to wear at any "business casual" office are even larger in the pocket.

If wearing abnormally tight jeans is more important to you than your smartphone then by all means, get an iPhone. You probably already have one you giant narrow minded hipster douchebag. ;)


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 5:03:24 PM , Rating: 3
Sorry, wrong comment. That was meant for Murloc.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By Murloc on 5/12/2014 4:50:02 PM , Rating: 1
okay now it's clear, it fits because you wear grampa jeans.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 5:03:42 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously? Go to ANY store you shop at that sells ANY jeans... Now look at the rack and grab a pair of your favorite jeans and look at the front pocket - do this on several brands, any and all jeans... It is WAY bigger than any Phablet. If your phone isnt fitting in the pocket it isn't that the pocket is too small, its the fact that there is zero room in between your leg and the jeans because they are too tight. Slacks like you would have to wear at any "business casual" office are even larger in the pocket.

If wearing abnormally tight jeans is more important to you than your smartphone then by all means, get an iPhone. You probably already have one you giant narrow minded hipster douchebag. ;)


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By atechfan on 5/12/2014 6:15:51 PM , Rating: 3
I got over the whole wearing my pants tight enough that people could check out my package thing in the mid-80s. Phone size is not that big of an issue. After reading this thread, I decided to try to fit my wife's Playbook in my front pocket, and other than one corner sticking out, it fit. I wouldn't want to sit long with it there, but this is a 7 inch device. So I am sure any phone would fit there just fine.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By heffeque on 5/12/2014 1:53:05 PM , Rating: 2
You must be american. Anywhere else in the world people generally wear clothes that aren't huge.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 1:58:36 PM , Rating: 2
???

I am not some teenager with loose baggy Jeans. My jeans fit normally like an adult. In fact, most of them are a bit tight as I put on a few pounds in the past few years.

There are 10's of millions of Notes, Note2 and 3's out there in the world and other models as well. Europe, asia, all over... These phones are going in pockets without problems. As will the upcoming iPhone 5.5 inch model.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/12/2014 9:20:37 PM , Rating: 2
That's a pretty ignorant comment.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By room200 on 5/12/2014 3:52:16 PM , Rating: 2
"I do not want a huge phone that can barely fit in my pocket."

What the hell are you? ......a munchkin?


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By HardwareDufus on 5/12/2014 11:16:42 AM , Rating: 3
I use a Nokia Lumia 920. It has a 4.5" screen @ 1280x768 resolution. It has never felt lacking.

An I-Phone @ 4.7" with 1080p res would put it close to Nokia Lumia 930/Icon specs (5" 1080p). A mild evolution of a very successful product.

5.5" and 6" screens are monsters and might end up alienating existing users ready to upgrade.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By koenshaku on 5/12/2014 11:20:24 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah I use a Nokia Lumia 920 also. This mock of the new iPhone looks like a nokia lumia 925 though. Either way one of the reasons I left iOS was because of their boring UI and small screen size. This could actually be a game changer since the iPhone will properly sync my playlist.. If windows 8.1 doesn't get it together and their new flag ship isn't impressive I will be making a return to apple.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By nikon133 on 5/12/2014 5:14:42 PM , Rating: 2
I think you'll be happy with WP8.1. I'm loving it (developers' preview). I'm even playing with Cortana a lot, though I was always saying I'll never talk with my phone.

Also Lumia 920, by the way. I'm finding 4.5" good size, but then again, my previous phones were iPhone 3Gs and 4s... so I wasn't hard to impress.

iOS. I used them all between iOS3 and iOS6. I moved to Lumia before iOS7, but I did play with it on my wife's iPhone 5s. Even with all the changes they have made with 7, it still feels... conservative. So I'm not considering to return to iPhone, not any time soon. But I'm sure a lot of people love that it doesn't change radically and it's very easy to move from old to new iPhone. Heck, my wife thought iOS7 is to much changed, and first week or two kept asking if we can "downgrade" her new iPhone to iOS6 :)


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 2:00:41 PM , Rating: 3
"5.5" and 6" screens are monsters and might end up alienating existing users ready to upgrade"

Options... There will be 4, 4.7 and 5.5 inch iPhones. No-one needs to be alienated, in spite of the uproar. Buy the one you want.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By name99 on 5/12/2014 11:51:27 PM , Rating: 2
So tell us what you would consider an improvement then.
We're all dying to hear what REALISTIC and USEFUL hardware improvements Apple can add beyond what's there already.


RE: 4.7" Display? Really?
By kmmatney on 5/13/2014 12:45:50 AM , Rating: 2
I have a 5.5" phone, and frankly it's a little too big. Browsing the web is great, but I'm not sure that offsets the overall hugeness. It won't fit into the pocket of most of my pants. I've learned to deal with it, but I think 4.7" to 5" is perfect size for me. I was thinking my current phone would be a tablet replacement, but 5.5" doesn't really do that, so I'd rather have something that works better as a phone.


Small is Good
By ICBM on 5/12/2014 11:41:26 AM , Rating: 2
Actually the size of the current iphone is the only thing I really like about it.

Apple along with HTC One Mini has been the only options for a smaller phone with decent hardware. The other smaller phones typically have lower end specs and crappy builds. It alienates a bunch of people looking for high end but small. I don't see a reason not to attack both markets.

4.7" is too big btw.




RE: Small is Good
By hpglow on 5/12/2014 12:29:35 PM , Rating: 2
I have a 5 and for most uses it is nice, but anytime I can't get to a real PC or tablet for browsing it just sucks. That tiny screen and the camera are huge sticking points for many of us still clinging on.


RE: Small is Good
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 1:04:51 PM , Rating: 2
Yup... And most people that did leave Apple, left for the screen size. Not because they didnt like it, or werent happy with the "walled garden" or apps or anything esle. Most people that lft Apple left for the screen size. Apple's internal research even shows that and that is why a 4.7 and a 5.5 inch iPhone is coming. My bet is they keep a smaller one too to keep those people happy.


RE: Small is Good
By Fleeb on 5/12/2014 5:37:43 PM , Rating: 2
Bubububut.. perfect / sweet spot screen size. What happened?


RE: Small is Good
By inighthawki on 5/12/2014 5:56:47 PM , Rating: 2
Things change over time. What was once ideal is not the case when you introduce new features and people become more familiar and comfortable with technology. I'm sure Apple has done their market research and determined that 4.7" may be the best tradeoff between peoples' wants and their supply chains.

Now truthfully, the correct option is to have multiple models to fit everyone's needs. Perhaps several devices ranging from 4" to 6".

Additionally, I'm sure there are tons of people who still find 4.5" and below to be the sweet spot. There is no reason to make fun of them because they hold a different opinion than you.


RE: Small is Good
By macca007 on 5/13/2014 3:23:46 AM , Rating: 2
Have to definitely agree with you there as I am one of those you speak of.
Was happy with everything the iPhone was except the screen size. Went from iPhone 3gs to the Note 2 on release day, massive difference. No problem fitting N2 in pockets either don't see what all the fuss is about from apple users.
I will say this though, My next phone will be 5 inches and don't care what brand, I think it is the exact sweet spot in phone market and offers the best compromise. Over 5.5 inches may as well get a tablet pc and connect a phone, Under 4.5 inches then smart phone is useless for browsing anything, May as well buy a tiny flip phone.


RE: Small is Good
By Camikazi on 5/14/2014 2:30:47 PM , Rating: 2
I have a Note 3 which is 5.7" and a Nexus 7 and they do not compare at all, for general browsing the Note is good but the Nexus is MUCH better for everything. I love my Note but a 5.7" screen is not even close to the same as having a tablet. Hell my entire phone fits inside the screen of the Nexus with screen space still visible around it, the difference is huge and that is only the smallest of the tablets.


RE: Small is Good
By darkpuppet on 5/12/2014 3:03:40 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with you -- I know it's different for everyone, but a larger phone may be an issue with multi-device users... I have no need for larger than what my iphone already is -- Anything larger, and I'm encroaching on my perfectly sized 7" tablet..

I know it's all subjective, but I think this may hurt sales with CEOs and other rich folk types who are typically your big adopters in business... If I have to buy a gangster chained-sized phone, I may as well save a few bucks and switch to android.

But then they suck you back in with that damned sapphire screen and wireless charging...


RE: Small is Good
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 3:44:57 PM , Rating: 2
"I know it's all subjective, but I think this may hurt sales with CEOs and other rich folk types who are typically your big adopters in business...

I am sure they will still have a 4 inch model. It's not taking anything away, just adding new size options, becasue hte majority of people want it.


RE: Small is Good
By piroroadkill on 5/12/2014 5:03:23 PM , Rating: 2
Wrong on the HTC One Mini and Apple iPhones being the only decent small devices. HTC One Mini barely counts.

Sony Xperia Z1 Compact is the only phone that doesn't compromise at the size. Same SoC, same camera..


Ports
By Chadder007 on 5/12/2014 10:18:54 AM , Rating: 2
The Lightning and Headphone ports look a bit smaller than they should be...




RE: Ports
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 5/12/2014 10:27:21 AM , Rating: 2
It's because they have plastic inserts in the cutouts instead of the production spec, metal ports.


RE: Ports
By ilt24 on 5/12/2014 10:41:01 AM , Rating: 2
Even more so in this picture from the original site.

http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/...


RE: Ports
By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 11:13:00 AM , Rating: 2
What BH said... Plus, it's not a pre-production phone in that pic, its a mock up. The type of thing they send out to accessory makers so they can get the size right and have cases, etc ready at release date.


Nexus One
By nemoshotyany on 5/12/2014 10:27:00 AM , Rating: 3
Is it just me or does the mock up kinda resemble the nexus one




RE: Nexus One
By name99 on 5/12/2014 11:55:04 PM , Rating: 1
Given that the nexus one copied the original iPhone pretty blatantly, what exactly is your point?


LED flash
By Guspaz on 5/12/2014 11:30:31 AM , Rating: 3
"One thing to note, however, is that the mockup doesn’t appear to show provisions for the dual-LED camera flash as seen on the iPhone 5s."

People keep saying this, but everybody forgets that a single LED module can have multiple LED elements. It's entirely possible that for newer products, Apple has got a manufacturer to do a custom LED module for them, whereas for the 5S they were using two off-the-shelf modules.




Yawn
By GotThumbs on 5/12/2014 12:11:42 PM , Rating: 2
Meh.




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