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RIM's BlackBerry London  (Source: The Verge)
The smartphone is the BlackBerry London, and will be released in mid-to-late 2012

A photo of a smartphone has caused quite a stir in the tech community, as many believe it may be Research In Motion's next-generation touchscreen BlackBerry smartphone running the new BBX operating system.

The Verge got its hands on the first photo of what is believed to be the BlackBerry London. This smartphone, which is expected to be released mid-2012, is to offer the upcoming BBX operating system, which was announced at the fourth annual BlackBerry Developer Conference in October and is based on QNX.

The BlackBerry London allegedly features a 1.5 GHz Tl OMAP dual-core CPU, 1 GB of RAM, 16 GB storage capacity, a 2 MP front-facing camera and an 8 MP rear camera. According to The Verge, the London is the same size as a Galaxy S ll (though it was unclear which one) and is thinner than the iPhone 4.

The photo contains a "dummy" model of the phone, but a BGR source says the model in the picture is indeed real. The London has replaced the BlackBerry Colt, which was the first QNX-based RIM handset that was in-progress, but the Colt was terminated in favor of the London.

While the launch date of the London isn't set in stone, The Verge notes a June 2012 release is in order. BGR, on the other hand, predicts a Q3 2012 release.

Sources: BGR, The Verge



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RIP RIM
By Church of Dirac on 11/15/11, Rating: 0
RE: RIP RIM
By Chadder007 on 11/15/2011 12:17:19 PM , Rating: 2
Since when was it an extra $20 a month just for a blackberry compared to other Smart phones?
If the OS is nice, then I'll go to it. Personally I'm getting fed up with the issues i deal with day to day with Android devices.


RE: RIP RIM
By mckirkus on 11/15/2011 12:45:59 PM , Rating: 1
Our head sysadmin just told me there are only six of us left using Blackberries with BES. Everybody else has moved to Android/Iphone with the Good app for secure email. People who own RIM stock shouldn't be allowed to drive.


RE: RIP RIM
By spread on 11/15/2011 2:46:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
People who own RIM stock shouldn't be allowed to drive.


Not people, more like institutions. It's one of the defacto tech stocks to invest in. Or rather, was.


RE: RIP RIM
By Solandri on 11/15/2011 4:07:47 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah, RIM's "killer app" was secure email to/from a mobile device. That's why companies loved them - they could give them to their employees, and control emails sent with them to keep them secure. (In the corporate espionage sense. There's no stopping a government determined to snoop your emails.)

Nobody else was able to put together email over phones which worked as well and as securely as RIM's solution at the time. But once phones became capable of regular secure email over a phone's regular data connection (i.e. your phone is indistinguishable from your computer on the Internet), RIM's advantage evaporated.


RE: RIP RIM
By Calin on 11/16/2011 3:54:09 AM , Rating: 2
Not to mention the couple of server outages at RIM that left the email not working (once for four days).


RE: RIP RIM
By omnicronx on 11/16/2011 9:07:32 AM , Rating: 2
You are sadly mistaken if you think this is the norm.

Not a huge fan of RIM myself, but they still have a stranglehold over the enterprise market.

Secure email is one of many concerns, nor does a secure email client does not magically solve many of the problems that still exist in the Android/iOS ecosystem (security or otherwise). Deployment/Maintenance reasons alone is a big reason why many companies will flat out not switch.


RE: RIP RIM
By retrospooty on 11/15/2011 12:59:47 PM , Rating: 2
"Since when was it an extra $20 a month just for a blackberry compared to other Smart phones?"

Since always. If your IT dept used BES, then they pay $20 per month for your blackberry to get what everyone else gets fro free with Exchange activesync.

If your company is not using BES, and you have a Blackberry then you REALLY need to evaluate your choice in phones. LOL


RE: RIP RIM
By theslug on 11/15/2011 1:42:22 PM , Rating: 2
The $20 fee doesn't apply to all organizations using BES.


RE: RIP RIM
By retrospooty on 11/15/2011 1:44:34 PM , Rating: 2
I used to work for a company that had it at $15. I suppose some have deals that get it even lower. Good for them.


RE: RIP RIM
By jimbojimbo on 11/16/2011 12:13:32 AM , Rating: 2
False. It used to cost extra but after BES Express came, which didn't require the enterprise plan, they removed the extra charge.


RE: RIP RIM
By retrospooty on 11/15/2011 12:21:55 PM , Rating: 2
"It looks like a nice design"

I dunno, it has a certain coolness to it, but in another way it looks like a 1980's version of "the phone of the future" LOL.


RE: RIP RIM
By omnicronx on 11/16/2011 8:52:32 AM , Rating: 2
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It looks like a nice design, too bad no one cares about RIM anymore.
Exactly...Well, except for the entire enterprise market.... oh wait..

I would also tender a guess that the design seen here is nothing but a prototype..


No QWERTY keyboard
By phatboye on 11/15/2011 12:39:58 PM , Rating: 2
A BlackBerry is just not the same without a keyboard. I never thought I'd ever live to see the day when BlackBerry made a keyboard-less smart phone.

I really don't understand the move to virtual keyboards. Does a QWERTY keyboard add that much to manufacturing cost? Why is it that the selection of smartphones with QWERTY keyboards so small? I've tried many virtual keyboards also tried swipe and yet no matter what I find that I am almost always more efficient with a physical keyboard.




RE: No QWERTY keyboard
By Dean364 on 11/15/2011 1:15:09 PM , Rating: 2
I'm with you here. I am one of those must have keyboard types. I hate onscreen keyboards that require to STOP everything I'm doing just to respond to a simple text message. It just doesn't work for me. I love the Blackberry keyboard and as a result I'm able to accomplish so much more work on a BB as opposed to those other toy phones.


RE: No QWERTY keyboard
By retrospooty on 11/15/2011 1:33:25 PM , Rating: 2
I need one too. Fortunately there are many options like the Droid3. It has a full keyboard and isn't a dinosour. A Toy? Sorry, I use it daily at work and its far more productive, compatible, useful than any Blackberry ever made.

QNX may change that, it looks very promising, but then again, by the middle of next year we will be coming up on IOS6 and Android 5, possibly Windown mobile 8, so BBX damn well better be awesome.


RE: No QWERTY keyboard
By jimbojimbo on 11/16/2011 12:25:26 AM , Rating: 2
I consider my Droid 3 a mini computer. I hate virtual keyboards since when you remote into another computer that damn keyboard covers half the screen! That and a virtual keyboard sucks big time when trying to pass shell commands.


Market
By Gio6518 on 11/15/2011 12:55:17 PM , Rating: 2
Was wondering if this device will access Android market, like the playbook. If so, I can see this phone being very desirable, has good specs, IMO the design has gotta be one of the most attractive phones out there.




RE: Market
By omnicronx on 11/16/2011 9:01:05 AM , Rating: 2
From my understanding yes, eventually all BBX based devices will be able to use the Android market. (at least that is the plan, I'm not sure if they have worked out a deal with Google yet)

I'm actually surprised how well it works on the playbook (early stages and the interface is rough around the edges, but does work).

Still not enough to entice me, but I'm sure this is going to make more than a few people curious once they start to roll out support for it.


Too Little Too Late
By matty123 on 11/15/2011 3:06:20 PM , Rating: 2
LOLed at the Q3 2012 release date, the phone looks beautiful and BBX has a lot of potentail ecspecially if it natively runs android apps giving it access to a massive market without the need for new developers but the release date is way to late, if {and I mean if} blackberry isn't bankrupt by that time they will struggle to win back customers who have brought into either the apple, google or possibly windows eco-system. I used to have a blackberry before my iphone and at this point I am almost to invested in the apple platform to move even if I wanted to, also while the specs look good now by the time this phone comes out I would expect far far superior androids and possibly even iphones.

But it's good to see blackberry making a move in the right direction, while blackberry purists may hate the lack of a keyboard after using an iphone this long it doesn't bother me and that's the direction smartphones are moving in anyway.




RE: Too Little Too Late
By jimbojimbo on 11/16/2011 12:16:57 AM , Rating: 2
No kidding. They're planning on mid 2012 so let's say it comes out late summer. By then EVERY phone coming out will be quad cores with much faster processor. I hope those specs aren't what they're planning.


Ugly
By some1new on 11/15/2011 7:49:46 PM , Rating: 2
Am I the only one who thinks that thing looks kinda ugly?




RE: Ugly
By ShaolinSoccer on 11/16/2011 12:31:53 AM , Rating: 2
Am I the only one who thinks it looks long? It's like double the length of my HTC Evo?


Ugly!
By IronChef75 on 11/16/2011 12:31:17 AM , Rating: 2
It looks like the side vision mirror from a DeLorean.




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