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NPD Group reports the sales figures from the $12.5 billion U.S. video game industry

The official numbers from NPD Group are in, and the undeniable champion of all video game console sales in December is none other than the Nintendo DS. But of course, that’s a handheld and those always sell very well. So among all the play-at-home systems, the leader of them all is PlayStation 2.

Those expecting the current generation systems to top sales charts may be surprised to see Sony’s previous generation machine lead the pack. Apparently, the strong performance of the PS2 surprised NPD’s own analysts. “I literally said 'Oh My God' out loud when I saw the December PS2 numbers,” said Anita Frazier, NPD analyst, to GameDaily. “For that platform to have sold as many units as it did in December up against two new systems in the market was amazing, regardless of the price point.”

One of the “big three” showed up in third spot, and that would be the Xbox 360 cracking past the million mark with 1.1 million sold. The U.S. sales are as follows:

Console

December sales

Total sales to date

Nintendo DS

1.6 million

9.2 million

PlayStation 2

1.4 million

37.1 million

Xbox 360

1.1 million

4.5 million

PSP

953,200

6.7 million

Game Boy Advance

850,700

35.1 million

Wii

604,200

1.1 million

PlayStation 3

490,700

687,300

 “The race is really just beginning. We won't see this play out clearly until we're well into 2007,” said Frazier to GameDaily. “That said, the lead that Microsoft had in establishing the 360 for this generation of systems cannot be discounted. Since Sony and Microsoft are similarly positioning their two systems in terms of the device being more than just a video game machine, the 360 lead is more impactful to Sony than it is to Nintendo whose strategy has been different all along.”

The market leader for its generation seems to be pretty happy with its new found success. “We demonstrated our ability to turn our thought leadership into market leadership,” said Peter Moore, Corporate VP at Microsoft’s Entertainment and Devices Division. “Now in 2007, our challenge is to use our position as market leader to continue pushing the innovation envelope and connecting consumers ever more tightly to their games, their friends and their lifestyle.”

Nintendo, on the other hand, couldn’t have asked for a better holiday season. “Millions of players, both hard-core and brand-new, are already enjoying the unique entertainment provided by Wii, but demand for the system remains incredibly high,” said Nintendo of America President Reggie Fils-Aime. “So our work is just beginning. We're dedicating ourselves to maximizing both manufacturing and distribution full bore throughout 2007, to make sure everyone who wants to experience the future of video gaming can do so just as soon as possible.”

Despite being bested by its current generation competitors, Sony remains confident in its newest offerings. “If there was ever any doubt about the power of the PlayStation brand in the US, the December NPD data should quickly quell it,” said Jack Tretton, president and CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment America. “Not only did consumers drive records for PlayStation 3, they also validated the excellent value represented by PlayStation 2 and the entertainment versatility of PSP. These sales figures bode very well for the company heading into 2007.”



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Well well well...
By jtyson on 1/12/2007 9:37:50 AM , Rating: 4
I'm sorry. I'm really sorry for this. I know it's going to get d-rated as soon as I post it, and while it will probably make some of you laugh, there will definitely be those of you who are angered by it. But I cannot, in good conscience, pass up this opportunity to just point out a few things.

The first thing I would point out is that, of the seven consoles listed on that diagram, three of them are made by Nintendo, three of them are made by Sony, and only one is made by Microsoft. Just thought I'd point that out.

More glaring, and probably recognized by everyone who even glanced at the chart, is the fact that the PlayStation 2 (which is, to date, the highest selling gaming console of all time) is still outselling all other gaming consoles, except the DS. Which means that, even though Sony has introduced the PS2's successor to the market, and Nintendo and Microsoft have made similar attempts at their next-gen consoles, the PS2 is selling more than any of them. Even the Xbox 360, which has been on the market for over a year and is, to my knowledge, superior to the PS2 in every technical aspect. When a person walks into a store to buy a console, they are more likely to purchase a last-gen console than the Xbox 360.

Lastly, and I'll make it brief, is the fact that everybody seems to think that the PSP is some sort of failure. I don't own one, and I don't plan on buying unless the price drops or they release an update for it, but I wouldn't call being #4 in sales out of the top seven competing consoles "failing numbers". Would you?

"Them numbers ain't lyin', youngin'!




RE: Well well well...
By bnme on 1/12/2007 9:57:10 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
only one is made by Microsoft


Except, of course, Microsoft does make the operating system to another gaming device which:

1.) Has an install base significantly larger than any of the consoles, new or old.
2.) Has a variety of games, from casual to hardcore, and also from free to monthly subscription games.
3.) Has DVD and other home theater options.
4.) Can surf the web.
5.) Can connect to a variety of devices, such as MP3 players, digital cameras, etc...

They were touting this at CES too. Apples and oranges, maybe, but they group PC games and console games all as "video games".


RE: Well well well...
By Legolias24 on 1/12/2007 10:02:11 AM , Rating: 2
If you do decide to get a PSP, as I mentioned in an earlier post, Lumines 1 & 2 are addictively fun...same with Gunpey.

If you're like me and just want something to kill time with commuting to and from work, those three games I listed are great because you can just jump into a game! (Mind you, when you get really good your games will last for an hour or more, but still lots of fun! :P)

As for the PS2 outselling all the existing consoles, I think that is pretty funny, but the price point for that console is such that it isn't that far fetched. One reason why the Wii is doing so well is because its cheap when compared to other next gen offerings. (I'm still not getting one as I'm not sold on the control scheme...I can't help but think the controller will be a flash in the pan!)

Anyway, that's my two cents!


RE: Well well well...
By Biggie on 1/12/2007 10:02:15 AM , Rating: 2
The PSP is a failure I own one and I use it more as a video/music player then a game machine. The number of exceptional original games is very limited. The system's biggest problem is the long load times due to the UMD format, waiting over a minute to get into a game is unacceptable.

As for the sales data I'm pretty sure Nintendo would have sold more Wii if they had greater hardware availability. It's kinda sad that Microsoft couldn't shift more 360s when they have no real competition. 2007 will be an interesting year.


RE: Well well well...
By jtyson on 1/12/2007 10:19:05 AM , Rating: 1
...Yeeeaaaah, but that's really more or less opinion and conjecture, which you're entitled to. Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to buy one either (unless the price drops or they update it with a HDD or SSD). But to call the PSP an outright "failure" is to ignore the facts, especially considering that about a million people during the month of December alone would disagree with you.

Worth buying? Depends on who you ask. Failure? Certainly not.


RE: Well well well...
By Alpha2Omega on 1/12/2007 10:06:52 AM , Rating: 3
I'm not going to downrate you, you're welcome to your opinion, but I am going to argue your points.

quote:
The first thing I would point out is that, of the seven consoles listed on that diagram, three of them are made by Nintendo, three of them are made by Sony, and only one is made by Microsoft. Just thought I'd point that out.


The reason for this is MS have only released 2 consoles to date, and one of these is no longer actively pushed. This is in contrast to Sony, who have the PS2, PSP and PS3, and Nintendo, with the GBA, DS and Wii. If MS had a handheld out that they were pushing, with games coming out often, they would likely be on that diagram too.

quote:
Even the Xbox 360, which has been on the market for over a year and is, to my knowledge, superior to the PS2 in every technical aspect. When a person walks into a store to buy a console, they are more likely to purchase a last-gen console than the Xbox 360.


Technological superiority is not the be all and end all. Consoles are bought for all sorts of people on all sorts of budgets, and people don't go shopping for a games console without having one in mind already, nor do they aim for a 360 and then settle for a PS2 and vice versa. PS2 is selling well because lots of people want an inexpesive, but current console, and lets face it, with the GC and Xbox largely finished now, there is no choice but the PS2.

quote:
Lastly, and I'll make it brief, is the fact that everybody seems to think that the PSP is some sort of failure. I don't own one, and I don't plan on buying unless the price drops or they release an update for it, but I wouldn't call being #4 in sales out of the top seven competing consoles "failing numbers". Would you?


Well when you consider that the bottom two are supply limited, and, had there been 3 million units available they likely would have sold all of them, these do not count. Further, the GBA is now 6 year old tech, and has sold decently well still. It's likely most people who want a GBA have one and sales will continue to decline until a new one is introduced or the DS takes over, so now you see the PSP is effectively last. Finally, the main competition for the PSP is the DS, and that sold about 60% more than the PSP in a month. These devices are no longer supply constrained, it's simply that the PSP is not selling as well as it's competitor


RE: Well well well...
By Tsuwamono on 1/12/2007 10:19:26 AM , Rating: 2
Well i agree with you about the reasons why people are buying a PS2. MS doesnt really keep making new games for the Xbox but TECHNICALLY its still far superior to the PS2. The only downside to the original xbox in my opinion was that there was no Gran Turismo. Same for the 360.


RE: Well well well...
By glennpratt on 1/13/2007 12:48:03 PM , Rating: 2
Between RalliSport 2 and Forza Motorsport, I couldn't care less about the Gran Tourismo series.


RE: Well well well...
By R Nilla on 1/12/2007 10:20:06 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Well when you consider that the bottom two are supply limited, and, had there been 3 million units available they likely would have sold all of them, these do not count.

I can't help but point out that this is not true of the PS3. We could speculate all we wanted to during launch, but now that the smoke has cleared, the PS3 is all but readily available in most B&M stores, and even online, while the Wii still remains difficult to track down.


RE: Well well well...
By Alpha2Omega on 1/12/2007 11:22:00 AM , Rating: 2
Oh I'm not going to argue, I just don't have first hand experience living in the UK, but everything i'm reading suggests you are right. My only point was in relation to the PSP, and that #4 on the list is not really that great.

If anything, your observations make another point, which is that Sony's most recent offerings, supply limited or not, just aren't selling as well as their earlier stuff, whereas MS is selling more $400 consoles than Sony is PSPs and the Wii is nigh on impossible to get hold of.

The coming months should certainly be interesting


RE: Well well well...
By jtyson on 1/12/07, Rating: -1
RE: Well well well...
By KaiserCSS on 1/12/2007 2:16:14 PM , Rating: 2
jtyson, your reputation precedes you. Name your "trusted source", or most of us will believe you're just repeating the same things many people hope will happen.


RE: Well well well...
By jtyson on 1/12/07, Rating: -1
RE: Well well well...
By Goty on 1/12/07, Rating: 0
RE: Well well well...
By Goty on 1/12/07, Rating: -1
RE: Well well well...
By Alpha2Omega on 1/12/2007 11:47:17 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe so, I've not played either for more than 5 minutes, but there is usually some overlap. The same could be said of the Xbox 360 and PS3, those who want media capabilities such as Blu-ray will go with the PS3, but if those saying the PS3 is not selling out are right, I think people showing they value a lower cost system above a more expensive, better equipped machine.

Thing is, not everyone who buys these things knows the differences between systems. parents and relatives may purchase a console or handheld not knowing the differences, and often when that happens, price is the key factor


RE: Well well well...
By jtyson on 1/12/07, Rating: 0
RE: Well well well...
By ViperROhb34 on 1/12/2007 11:18:56 AM , Rating: 2
First of all.. PS2 sell well because its only 129 dollars and has a large library.. This points to the PS3 and its lagging sales..

PEOPLE CANT AFFORD THAT MUCH !!

Second of all.. about one system being Microsoft. Do you know they are like 3rd in the entire world in NEW PROFIT ? After they pay all their bills they still bank more then a BILLION a month ! Sony and Nintendo are so far behind that.. they arent even in the top 20.

In actual consoles it'll be Nintendo AND MS leading this time around !

Enough said..


RE: Well well well...
By Goty on 1/12/2007 11:41:14 AM , Rating: 2
You can't compare all of MS to Sony's Computer Entertainment Division and to Nintendo. It just doesn't work that way.


RE: Well well well...
By FITCamaro on 1/12/2007 11:57:39 AM , Rating: 2
Even all of Sony combined doesn't come close to making what Microsoft makes. Especially as they continually loose sales due to their overpriced (some inferior) products. Sony's quality might not be bad, but its not any better really now days than any other manufacturer. Samsung makes just as good of a TV as Sony but at a lower price. Sony's PC division is a joke. And their camera's are good but don't have any edge on their competitor's.


RE: Well well well...
By jtyson on 1/12/2007 2:37:36 PM , Rating: 1
I'm tired of hearing about how Sony's TVs are exactly the same as Samsung's from people who don't know the facts. Just because your buddy from work said that he heard from a friend of his that they're the same does not make it true. I defy you to find any source that proves that point, because you won't. I mean, think about it: if what you're saying is true, then that means that people are, more often than not, going into stores, looking at two identical (quality-wise) televisions, and saying, "Yes, I'll take the one that's more expensive, thank you."
What you heard about Sony TVs being the same as Samsung TVs is a discombobulation of something that is true; Sony uses some of the same components in most (not all) of their TVs. It saves on costs for both Sony and Samsung, and most of the components they are sharing are commonplace in all TVs. The parts that really matter, like the panels, and other components that determine the depth of the Televison, are made by each respective company. For example, when Sony introduced the SXRD LCD TV line, it boasted that these televisions had the highest pixel count of any TV of a comparable size in the world. And they could, because the SXRD panel was made by Sony's technicians in Sony's plants. Samsung did not have a comparable TV. And to purchase said TV, you paid a premium. You could buy a Samsung, which are good TVs, but that's why some people buy Sony, and some people buy Samsung.

Just a little nugget of info: Sony was #1 in total TVs sold last year. So either they make really good TVs, or there are a lot of Americans among us who should have taken a smaller bus to school when they were little.


RE: Well well well...
By Janooo on 1/12/2007 3:42:50 PM , Rating: 2
Sony and Samsung have 50-50 joint venture for the panels. They use the same panels. I am not sure how many Sony makes by them self if any.


RE: Well well well...
By ViperROhb34 on 1/12/2007 1:52:28 PM , Rating: 2
I wasn't .. I was comparing company to company net incomes ( after all salaries, expenses are paid ).. but you helped make my point.. Sony depends on its console sales much more. The console sales have become one of Sony's main incomes. In comparison.. Xbox 360 sales are REALISITICALLY A MERE FRACTION ( almost an experiment if you will ) of their income..


RE: Well well well...
By Goty on 1/12/2007 2:15:37 PM , Rating: 1
I don't think Sony relies on it's console sales THAT much, otherwise they wouldn't be able to sell the PS3 at such a significant loss. I know they have other products in the market, namely the PSP and the PS2, but the amount they lose on each PS3 is enough that I bet the console division as a whole is losing money.


RE: Well well well...
By FITCamaro on 1/12/2007 11:45:26 AM , Rating: 2
1) Microsoft is only selling one gaming system so its hard for there to be more than one on the list. It no longer offers the Xbox.

2) PS2 is still selling well because its cheap and makes most people happy still.

3) When a person walks into a store they are more likely to buy a PS2 over an Xbox 360 which is more likely to be sold than a Wii which is more likely to be sold than a PS3.

4) The PSP is not a failure. UMD somewhat is.


RE: Well well well...
By agent2099 on 1/12/2007 7:27:53 PM , Rating: 2
More glaring, and probably recognized by everyone who even glanced at the chart, is the fact that the PlayStation 2 (which is, to date, the highest selling gaming console of all time) is still outselling all other gaming consoles, except the DS. Which means that, even though Sony has introduced the PS2's successor to the market, and Nintendo and Microsoft have made similar attempts at their next-gen consoles, the PS2 is selling more than any of them.

The reason for this is very simple:

PS2: $129
360: $399


RE: Well well well...
By brandontres on 1/12/2007 8:01:24 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Lastly, and I'll make it brief, is the fact that everybody seems to think that the PSP is some sort of failure. I don't own one, and I don't plan on buying unless the price drops or they release an update for it, but I wouldn't call being #4 in sales out of the top seven competing consoles "failing numbers". Would you?
<I own one and I consider it a failure (for me). Sure, it has a couple cool games (such as my most recent favorite, Daxter) but its not that great. It doesn't have a killer app. Syphon Filter IMO isn't that great. It has very clunky controls.

If you compare PSP sales to DS sales the PSP is not doing as well as anticipated when first released...especially in Japan.


I agree with Nintendo
By Spivonious on 1/12/2007 9:11:38 AM , Rating: 2
"Demand for the system remains incredibly high.”

This is very true. I've been actively searching for a Wii since Christmas and I just got one yesterday. Of course, every store I go to has at least three PS3s sitting on the shelf.

Kudos to Nintendo on those December sales figures. Who'd have thought that people would still be buying GBAs?




RE: I agree with Nintendo
By Frank M on 1/12/2007 9:16:54 AM , Rating: 2
I just bought a GBA this past summer. The new Micro is the only handheld that actually fits in pants pockets. The games are a bit tough to find though.


RE: I agree with Nintendo
By ksherman on 1/12/2007 9:24:40 AM , Rating: 2
My best buy has had a heap of PS3s on display for a while (probably near 30 of them)


RE: I agree with Nintendo
By bplewis24 on 1/12/2007 10:54:25 AM , Rating: 2
After hearing about how many PS3s are stocking the shelves right now I went to a local Gamestop and Best Buy looking for some. There wasn't one in either store. I'm wondering if these stories of dozens of PS3s being on shelves for several weeks isn't exaggerated? A few days seems more like it, which is what some others are saying.

Brandon


RE: I agree with Nintendo
By darkpaw on 1/12/2007 11:06:58 AM , Rating: 1
I was looking for a Wii for the first two weeks after xmas. Every single store had ps3's in stock (target, wal mart, fry's, best buy), only place that had a Wii was Fry's and they would only sell it with a minimum purchase of 5 games too (my ass).

Gave up after that and figured I'd just wait a few months.


RE: I agree with Nintendo
By Goty on 1/12/2007 11:43:57 AM , Rating: 2
These accounts are definitely exaggerated. Sure, stores will have piles of them all over the place... right after they get a shipment. Seeing as how that usually happens every week or so, it's not going to be unusual to see a lot of PS3s in stock every once in a while.


RE: I agree with Nintendo
By bfonnes on 1/12/2007 5:53:30 PM , Rating: 2
Booooooo @ the more PS3s on the shelf rant.

Sony knows what they're doing, too... It's simple supply and demand... The supply is constricted because of some of the parts that Sony uses in the PS3, so until that supply goes up the PS3 will cost more. As long as the PS3 costs more people will buy the other systems and you'll hear from the fanboys of those respective systems more loudly.

Plus, the argument is not being used correctly... Every person that says there are such and such amounts of PS3s on the shelf at such and such store, only mention what store they went to like 33% of the time, and mention their locality about 0% of the time. Of course, there's going to be more PS3s on the store shelf if you're in Chicago as compared to if you're in Alaska, which per capita wouldn't "need" as many.


RE: I agree with Nintendo
By MrDiSante on 1/12/2007 7:22:21 PM , Rating: 2
Toronto, Ontario. EB Games at Yonge + Eglinton and the two and Yonge + Steeles had em, Futureshop same place had em, some small gaming store slightly north of Yonge + Eglinton had em on January 7, 2007 - is that precise enough for you? Oh and thanks for proving the point everyone's been making 5/600 USD is far too much for a console.


RE: I agree with Nintendo
By timmiser on 1/13/2007 6:30:02 AM , Rating: 2
If we learn anything from the sales figures, we learn that price and game selection is king.

PS3 is last in both catagories and the price won't come down and game selection go up significantly until people start buying them which I don't see happening.


RE: I agree with Nintendo
By darkpaw on 1/12/2007 9:51:24 AM , Rating: 1
I was completely surprised about the GBA as well. Kinda a waste of money at this point really and the DS Lite fits in pockets just fine.

I have one of the earlier DS systems and wish I would have waited since games for it were complete crap in the first year anyways. Oh well, live and learn.


No surprises
By edge929 on 1/12/2007 9:10:09 AM , Rating: 2
With the PS2 at $130 bucks and a smaller/sleeker design, this doesn't surprise me at all. Walking through Target and seeing it, I had to do a double-take. I remember the days they were $300+ bucks and it doesn't seem that long ago. Not to mention its title of games is huge and cheap compared to the Crackbox and PS3 rapings of $60 bone.

I was one of those millions of DS buyers this holiday season. I like it but it needs more good games. Nintendogs isn't flying with me.




RE: No surprises
By Legolias24 on 1/12/2007 9:27:56 AM , Rating: 2
You should look at "Big Brain Academy" for the DS. A buddy of mine has one (a DS) and that game and I've gotta admit, I've almost bought a DS just to play it. But then again, I'm big into puzzle games (i.e. Gunpey, Lumines 1 & 2 all for the PSP...all three are highly addictive and lots of fun IMO).

I hear good things about FF3 for the DS though!


RE: No surprises
By slashbinslashbash on 1/12/2007 10:23:42 AM , Rating: 2
What? A lack of good games for the DS?! How about:

Advance Wars
Trauma Center
Phoenix Wright
Brain Age
Final Fantasy III
Marko Kart
WarioWare Touched
Animal Crossing
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Metroid Prime Hunters
Metroid Prime Pinball
Tetris DS
New Super Mario Bros.
Elite Beat Agents
Cooking Mama
Kirby Canvas Curse
Yoshi's Island DS
Meteos
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime
Super Mario 64 DS

The catalog of A+ games for the DS is larger than that of any of the big 3 next-gen consoles and certainly much larger than that of the PSP. Plus it plays all the GBA games!


RE: No surprises
By Goty on 1/12/2007 11:46:23 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Plus it plays all the GBA games!


Which makes sense, since some of those are GBA games anyways. (Though I'd hardly call most of those A+ games)


RE: No surprises
By slashbinslashbash on 1/12/2007 12:47:23 PM , Rating: 2
Which of those are GBA games? A lot of them started on the GBA but ended up on DS (e.g. Mario Kart had a GBA version and a later (much improved) DS version; Animal Crossing started on the GameCube and had a DS sequel. In all cases, I am referring to the DS version). I should have been more specific with some of them, e.g. specifying Advance Wars: Dual Strike instead of just Advance Wars. The rest of those are definitely DS games (except for Phoenix Wright, which was a GBA game in Japan but is a DS game in the US). As for the quality of the titles, almost all of them have gotten reviews of 8/10 or higher from major gaming magazines.


RE: No surprises
By Loc13 on 1/12/2007 9:41:39 PM , Rating: 2
those are all DS games. and they're all great games, please don't comment if you haven't played any of them. Thank you.


RE: No surprises
By timmiser on 1/13/2007 6:33:56 AM , Rating: 2
Dude, please don't sit here on DT and claim that "Tetris" is a great game. Show some repect to your fellow posters.


RE: No surprises
By slashbinslashbash on 1/13/2007 1:38:52 PM , Rating: 2
Tetris DS got mostly quite good reviews:

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/930648.asp

IGN: 9.0/10
GameSpy: 4.5/5
GameSpot: 7.5/10
GamePro: 5/5
EGM: 7.83/10
Game Informer: 9.25/10
1UP.com: 9/10


PSP? PS3?
By CuriousMike on 1/12/2007 12:53:24 PM , Rating: 2
1. I'm surprised by the PSP numbers for a couple of reasons. IMO, the price is still tough to get past. Secondly, there really isn't much in the software library that makes me think "Oh, I gotta have one." And I do have one. And I never use it.

2. The PS3 has strong numbers now -- but I suspect this is the early adopter / hot xmas item boost. I'll be curious to see this chart six months from now. Admittedly the summer is not the hot selling season, but I think (as we're seeing now) the "must have PS3" mentality is waning, and reality is setting in... a) it's expensive, b) it's expensive. I haven't been paying much attention to what "must have" titles will drive sales for the PS3 in the next six months, but Sony has to have something up it's sleeve software wise.




RE: PSP? PS3?
By UsernameX on 1/12/2007 2:47:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
but Sony has to have something up it's sleeve software wise.


At first I was going to say Final Fantasy 13... but isn't that going to be released for the 360 too? Aside from that, MGS4 will be a huge seller... I know that will be the day when I get my PS3 =)


RE: PSP? PS3?
By Goty on 1/12/2007 3:08:51 PM , Rating: 2
FFXIII is still a PS3 exclusive.


RE: PSP? PS3?
By jtyson on 1/12/2007 3:14:15 PM , Rating: 2
And how! Can't wait.


RE: PSP? PS3?
By jtyson on 1/12/2007 2:49:11 PM , Rating: 2
Forget the software, Sony needs to lower that price. When it comes to software, the PlayStation brand carries a lot of pull. They just need to make their console more accessable.


RE: PSP? PS3?
By Goty on 1/12/2007 3:09:59 PM , Rating: 2
The price will come down in time. The yields on the Cell processor are still too low and the blue laser diodes are still in too short supply for Sony to buy them at reasonable prices.


RE: PSP? PS3?
By jtyson on 1/12/2007 3:22:17 PM , Rating: 2
Let's hope so. I already own one, so I won't get to enjoy the money saved, but it's hard to try to describe to people just how amazing that console is. Seriously. You need to experience it for yourself. I just installed a 200 Gb HDD in my PS3 the other day, and it took 10 minutes. Easy as pie, and now I can store movies on it. I will admit that, for the time being, when it comes to quality games, you're pretty much limited to 'Fight Night: Round 3', 'NBA 2K7', and 'Resistance: Fall of Man' (the most fun you're likey to have with an online FPS available now). But that will all change in February/March-ish, when the rest of the heavy-hitters make their debut.


RE: PSP? PS3?
By ViperROhb34 on 1/12/2007 5:26:17 PM , Rating: 2
I have experienced it.. My cousin has a 360 and a PS3.. So far he plays it less then his 360.. I will say I like the way the disc player quietly accepts the disc.. and I like the feel of the keys.. but I you expect that difference over the feel of a console that cost less..

As far as games there aren't going to be alot of reasons to buy a PS3 over a 360 this year. Many of the better games you speak of coming out on PS3 will also be coming out on 360 this year.. and many of those games will probably equal, not best, Gears of War - as far as graphically.

The one game that shows some promise as far as both graphically and content - Assassin's Creed - is said by the developer to have some extra content on the 360 version because of ease of programming the 360, while offering no to little difference in picture quality.



Oranges vs. Apples...
By jskirwin on 1/12/2007 9:27:35 AM , Rating: 2
Handhelds vs Game Systems? That's an odd statistic.

Looked at that way, though, the PSP is outselling the Xbox 360. WTF? I'm surprised that the 360 stat is so weak.

The most interesting stat is the fact that the Wii sold about 1/4 of the number of Xbox 360s out there - in just 6 weeks.

From what I'm seeing when I go to the store with my Kid:
The Xbox 360 is ignored, the PS3 is broken (haven't seen a working version since early Dec at any store in the area) and the Wii's got a group of kids around it.




RE: Oranges vs. Apples...
By Spivonious on 1/12/2007 9:34:02 AM , Rating: 2
What I see is people buying 360s, people upset about there being no Wiis in stock, and people ignoring the PS3.


RE: Oranges vs. Apples...
By Goty on 1/12/2007 11:48:22 AM , Rating: 2
What I see is a bunch of people playing Guitar Hero 2 on the PS2.

Oh, and the line to play motorstorm.


RE: Oranges vs. Apples...
By glennpratt on 1/13/2007 12:59:45 PM , Rating: 2
Motorstorm? Are you serious? Seemed like a chunky arcade game squeezed onto a system that could hardly handle it to me. I played it at the one electronics store I've seen with a functioning PS3. All the rest I've seen were dead (to be fair, I've seen a significant number of dead 360 demos, but not lately.)


RE: Oranges vs. Apples...
By keiclone on 1/14/2007 3:42:21 AM , Rating: 2
360 is outselling PSP...


HUH?
By LostInLine on 1/12/2007 7:04:10 PM , Rating: 2
This doesn't make any sense to me. MS announced that they had shipped 10.4 million consoles life time for the 360.

Maybe these are NA numbers only. But I'd still expect the majority of 360's here.




RE: HUH?
By LostInLine on 1/12/2007 7:05:57 PM , Rating: 2
OOPS, I see it now "U.S." in the title.


PS is like that?
By OrSin on 1/12/2007 9:09:56 AM , Rating: 2
Thats very surprising to me. I'm xbox360 owner so not a fan at all. But the with than many epople still getting the PS2 you ahve to think they will want to keep thier new library of games for at least 3 years. Thats mean in if they buy a new console in the next few years it will mostly be the PS3. I could discount some of Sony PS2 sell from years ago but if they still sell this well now, Sony might just retake the lead in this generation.

Very interesting data.




That was then, this is now
By encryptkeeper on 1/12/2007 9:13:47 AM , Rating: 2
“If there was ever any doubt about the power of the PlayStation brand in the US, the December NPD data should quickly quell it,”

There was never any doubt about the Playstation 2 having brand power and a huge name in video game entertainment. First the dualshock controller, now this. Too bad your current generation products can't win any recognition Sony.




Wii figures doubly impressive
By psychobriggsy on 1/12/2007 10:56:27 AM , Rating: 2
Because they also launched in Europe in December, so some 400k+ units that could easily have been sold in the US were diverted to ensure that Nintendo got a good marketshare in Europe before the PS3 launched.

And everyone I know that has played on the Wii wants one desperately. The PS3 will launch at a bad time, with bad vibes from existing sales, at a rip off price - you have to wonder if they'll sell out of the launch boxes! Yeah, there are enough Playstation brand fans I guess ...




Nintendo's "Flash in the pan"
By vdig on 1/12/2007 11:39:45 AM , Rating: 2
Only six weeks in, and they were that high in the chart. Not bad at all. Even if this is what some people call a flash in the pan, this flash is huge, and will put quite a solid Nintendo install base for this generation of consoles. Further, the appeal will probably never fully disappear, since the Wii is still quite a different experience than the other two contenders. Couple this with the fact that they are already reaping financial rewards, I think Nintendo has made bold strides as a business.

At the same time, the chart shows Sony's PS2 as the powerhouse of the last gen. The clear winner, bar none, the PS2 has a huge library, impressive variety, and was pushed by incredible marketing, such that it killed the Dreamcast and Sega in the process. A shame they did not follow the winning formula for the successor, the PS3. Wow, was that a weak launch or what? The one thing to watch for is that, similar to the DC/PS2 battle, is that the main rival, the 360, is in the DC position as currently having superior lineup and experience, whereas the PS3, like the PS2, was launched later, and has overall worse looking launch titles. PS3 could still come back strong. I just don't think it will be as strong as last time.

Microsoft needs to keep crunching strong titles to avoid repeating Sega's fate. Gears of War and Lost Planet help tremendously in this regard.

Perchance this will be the first time three consoles, plus the PC game media, can survive and coexist, providing Sony gets out of their rut, due to the unusual position of Nintendo's business focus. Not using the Loss Leader approach, and giving users new input methods, amount to some of Nintendo's best moves in recent years.




Microsoft needs a low cost option
By EglsFly on 1/12/2007 4:47:27 PM , Rating: 2
After looking at the data and reading everyones posts, it seems to me what Microsoft should have done is updated the original XBOX into a slim line, low entry point ($) model. This would have allowed them to tackle multiple price points, and continue to grab as much market share as possible.




By borowki on 1/12/2007 8:56:05 PM , Rating: 2
If Sony's claim of having shipped 1 million PS3 to the US is to be believed, then the NPD numbers would confirm the anecdotal reports of weak consumer demand. Total sales of 687,300 means over 300,000 PS3's are sitting unsold at retailers. Few would describe that as flying off the shelves.

The January figures will be interesting. It's traditionally the slowest month for retail. If sales are significantly lower than December, it'll be a PR disaster for Sony. I can see headlines all over blogosphere: "PS3 sales plummeting after two month!" And nowadays the mainstream media pays attention to what's said in blogs.




Look at revenue not just units
By peternelson on 1/14/2007 3:40:09 PM , Rating: 2
The PS3 sales were limited by availability problems rather than people not wanting to buy them.

Also people will wait until many good PS3 specific titles are released. Buying further into PS2 and PS2 games is a temporary measure since the games are forward compatible onto ps3 when you buy ps3 later.

In japan, their own companies will beat microsoft because of national loyalty. Similarly in USA. Therefore no surprise MS does well in this USA listing.

Now look at pricing not just volumes. So Sony shipped about half the number of x360, but the price of those consoles was about double. Therefore in a REVENUE comparison, Sony delivered closer to MS than might appear. Particularly when you consider it also delivered sales revenue off the psp and ps2 consoles.

I'm surprised why original MS Xbox is missing from the listing though???

What this also says is that there are now half a million deployed blueray players, just waiting to consume blueray movie content.




Could we please compare prices!
By iron321 on 1/12/07, Rating: -1
By hecksign on 1/13/2007 8:35:55 AM , Rating: 2
but still, if we compare it like this :
XB360- 20gig + DVD= $400
XB360- 20gig + DVD + HDDVD= $600
PS3- 20gig + built-in Blueray= $500
PS3- 60gig + built-in Blueray= $600
PS3- 20gig = $300
but wait!!! there are no PS3 without the Blueray. I`d choose Xbox360 over ps3 because i dont need HDDVD and thats why
there are too many people complaining about the high price of the PS3. IMO PS3 is just another Sony's strategy on winning the 'BD vs HDDVD format'... Same with the UMD movie format on PSP which failed miserably.


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