Sources: The Washington Post, NSA via Intellipedia/The Washington Post
quote: Do I honestly care that it does? No.
quote: Until such a time as people are having the government drop by and execute a search and seizure of their private residence without a search warrant, I'm not concerned.
quote: The constitution wasn't written with the Internet in mind.
quote: Do not compare sniffing internet traffic with kicking in someone's door and taking their household goods at gunpoint. The latter of which is what the constitution was written to protect you against.
quote: When you fail to report a crime, you allow the criminal activity to continue, which makes you an accomplice.
quote: Stop with the bullshit, you, me and everyone else knows the FBI wouldn't and couldn't do anything about it, since its congressional and court authority, if anything the FBI would have likely arrested Snowden and none of the revelations about the criminality and fraud and deceit and corruption going on at the NSA would have seen the light of day.
quote: Everyone knows what they are doing is illegal, unconstitutional, treasonous, criminal, corrupt, but they don't care because the American people are the enemy to these foreign interests that have taken over the USA federal government.
quote: If it's got full congressional and court authority... then by definition it is legal.
quote: Proper channels exist for a reason. If we just assume proper channels are always a waste of time and exist for no reason whatsoever, then by all means lets get rid of them and save some money on the budget.
quote: You turn the evidence over to the authorities.
quote: hope they're going to do the right thing with it.
quote: I don't care who your employer is. If your employer is breaking the law, you have a duty to do something about it.
quote: Failing to report crime is a path to the Dark Side, Master Kenobi. A Jedi should know better.
quote: Failure to safeguard protected information.
quote: Failure to properly handle confidential information.
quote: Distribution of sensitive information to people without the appropriate access levels or need to know.
quote: it was against the law
quote: Just because I don't agree with what my company does, does that give me the right to steal all of their corporate secrets and distribute it to the world?
quote: He broke the law
quote: You don't get a free pass to break the rules you signed when you were hired just because you feel it's the "right thing to do".
quote: No, I think I will turn said information over to the correct authorities and let them take over from there.
quote: I don't need my 15 minutes of fame as a whistleblower to feel justified in my actions.
quote: Easy.-Failure to safeguard protected information.-Failure to properly handle confidential information.-Distribution of sensitive information to people without the appropriate access levels or need to know.
quote: I don't give a damn why he did it, it was against the law and he knowingly and willfully broke those laws.
quote: Just because I don't agree with what my company does
quote: does that give me the right to steal all of their corporate secrets and distribute it to the world?
quote: He broke the law and he should have to pay the consequences for doing that.
quote: The NSA and criminals who engage in online theft bear certain similarities
quote: The NSA and other criminals who engage in online theft bear certain similarities
quote: I think I'm a pretty smart guy, and the Snowden revelations scare the crap out of me.
quote: If you weren't already well aware that every major government around the world is snooping on electronic communications worldwide, then you aren't paying attention, or aren't as smart as you think you are.
quote: Are you trying to claim that a state spying on another state is the same as a state spying on its own subj...er, citizens?
quote: You had a fairly long post, but none of it explained why you think the NSA's actions are defensible.
quote: Or more accurately, why you think "the amount of embellishment and extremist writing in this article is absolutely disgusting" or why you think Jason's "sources don't support half the accusations" he makes.
quote: In total the documents indicate the NSA collects hundreds of millions of email contacts list, inbox scrapes, and IM lists. This makes it highly probably that the NSA uses its "not an American" assumption to seize the personal information of a large percentage of Americans, particularly when you consider that some of the most popular services in regions like China and Europe aren't even mentioned in the report.
quote: If the NSA can make the case that by mining a nation's networks it is monitoring "a valid foreign intelligence target in and of itself", it considers that enough to start interception.
quote: I love watching people try to use geographical barriers in a discussion concerning the internet, which by its very nature does not adhere to them.
quote: All I see is that US data was being collected inadvertently during the procurement of foreign data.
quote: Is it bad? Sure. Is it surprising? Not at all.
quote: If things were really as bad as people think, Congress and the Supreme Court would be on a witch hunt right now to find out who is abusing constitution and bring them to justice.
quote: The supreme court has made ZERO ruling that what is taking place is in fact illegal in regards to the NSA's programs.
quote: find it disrespectful as hell for you to stand here and condemn anyone and everyone who has or does serve this country
quote: I find it disrespectful as hell for you to stand here and condemn anyone and everyone who has or does serve this country
quote: For you to stand here and rant and rave about the legality of if is asinine.
quote: I can thank god for small favors that I don't have you making decisions that affect this country.
quote: And if your carrier wasn't moving that data over publicly accessible infrastructure then they couldn't get it.
quote: I'd bet it's even more effective than having people follow you around all day.