Source: Defense News
quote: More importantly they do not have a doctrine of interfering in the affairs of countries around the world like America has.
quote: And you talk about history. You are free to secede from America? That is certainly new.
quote: That's why the Hawaii vote was irrevocable, and screwed over the Kingdom of Hawaii.
quote: From 1946 to 1958, as the site of the Pacific Proving Grounds, the U.S. tested 67 nuclear weapons in the Marshall Islands, including the largest nuclear test the U.S. ever conducted, Castle Bravo. In 1956, the Atomic Energy Commission regarded the Marshall Islands as "by far the most contaminated place in the world".
quote: Are you suggesting that the Japanese or the South Koreans can vote against the American occupation?
quote: In Iran the police can not hold on to a suspect for more than 48 hours. In cases of terrorism, espionage and treason the period is extended to one month by the order of a special judge. I would like to know of any case that has been treated otherwise.
quote: I take it that you agree to be compensated up to the amount of $759 million dollars in exchange for receiving 67 nuclear explosion on American soil.
quote: Sub-Class standing of women in Iran? Where did you get that idea from? American experience? I have to agree that in Iran women are regarded differently from the way they are looked upon in America. Suffice it to say, that women in Iran enjoy higher social respect and legal rights than any American woman can ever dream of.
quote: quote: Are you suggesting that the Japanese or the South Koreans can vote against the American occupation? South Korea has voted to remain a free and democratic society. Not one dominated by a single authoritarian government responsible for abusing and controlling it's citizens.
quote: Are you suggesting that the Japanese or the South Koreans can vote against the American occupation?
quote: Don't forget we pay Cuba to have a naval base on thier land. And if they don't re-new the lease, we would have to leave as well.
quote: A 1934 treaty reaffirmed the lease terms and made the lease permanent unless both governments agreed to break it or the U.S. abandoned the base property. The 1903 agreement set the annual lease amount to USD$2,000 in U.S. gold coins. The U.S. continues to send monthly checks for the inflation-adjusted lease amount ($4,085 As of 2007[update]) to the Cuban government.
quote: we agreed to send them 450,000 metric tons of food, on one of the conditions being they stop ballistic missile test, and then a couple months later, they launch one.
quote: Do you think that is a fair settlement? We could just ask the USA or Russia to give up their ballistic missiles for 450,000,000 metric tons of food.
quote: NK values their safety above all else. They would mind a few citizens dying if that is what takes to stop an invasion.
quote: Moral relativism is foolish at best.
quote: They don't mind letting their population die now why do something different. Name something that NK does that is good in any sense?
quote: Do you think any sensible leader would take up such an offer? No wonder the discussions fail. It is obvious the NK leadership see it biased against them.
quote: They keep militarising and showing to the Iranians that the only way to prevent a US invasion (Iraq, Libya) is a nuclear deterrent.
quote: If you're running a functional country and economy, and an outside country influences it in a way which makes things worse, then you have a legitimate complaint. But if the outside countries are just trying to make things better inside your country, you have no basis for claiming their offers of assistance are biased against you.
quote: The Taliban was financed by US as long as the USSR was in Afghanistan. 10 years later Taliban becomes a terrorist org.
quote: The USS Ohio unloaded 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles in the initial stages of the attack. If you call that a skirmish, I have a bridge to sell you.
quote: That actually sums it up. America does not allow peace between North and South Korea. The rest is American bullsh..!
quote: My God, you are an ahmadinejad cock puppet. Infuckincapable of not drinking your own kool-aid
quote: Which part fires you up like that?
quote: Right they would have just gotten in the way of them restarting their reactor.
quote: How stupid of them. They should have started it long back and kept it running. Look at the price they paid!
quote: Well at least our country didn't change I'ts name to appease Hitler.
quote: The name "Iran", which in Persian means "Land of the Aryans", has been in use natively since the Sassanian era
quote: By the early 1930s, Reza Pahlavi's close ties with Nazi Germany began worrying the Allied states. Germany's modern state and economy highly impressed the Shah, and there were hundreds of Germans involved in every aspect of the state, from setting up factories to building roads, railroads and bridges.The Shah went on to ask the international community to use the native name of "Iran" in 1935 to address to his country, which in Persian means 'Land of the Aryans' and refers to Airyanem Vaejah, the Avestan name of the original homeland of the Aryans. Although the country has been known as Iran to the native people themselves for many centuries, Westerners came to know the nation as Persia through Ancient Greek accounts. Iranians were immune to the racial Nuremberg Laws on the grounds that they were pure blooded Aryans. In 1939, Nazi Germany provided Iran with what they called a Germany Scientific Library. The library contained over 7500 books selected "to convince Iranian readers...of the kinship between the National Socialist Reich and the Aryan culture of Iran"(Lenczowski. 1944, p. 161). In various pro-Nazi publications, lectures, speeches, and ceremonies, parallels were drawn between the Shah of Iran and Hitler, and praise the charisma and virtue of the Fuhrerprinzip (Rezun. 1982, p. 29).
quote: Ya goose there is no such thing as total protection...
quote: Neighboring island Japan
quote: "their mishizzle fizzled"
quote: SAIDS - The rare combination of gonorrhea chipalis herpes and AIDs all in one...otherwise known as SAIDs (super AIDs). This is usually caried by monkeys, or people who have sex with monkeys and then return it back to their native land to spread. Monkey, however, are immune to the disease seeing that they have been living with it for many years, but humans are not so keen to this disease.
quote: And he earned every bit of it, too. Especially the strike Reagan sent upon them.
quote: But, did we take their oil? Did we occupy them? NO!
quote: (That is, unless you try and pass off on us some absurd sci-fi theory that through reverse meson decay we managed to turn the space-time continuum into reverse and siphoned the creamy, black ale from them via a concentrated neutrino beam). It just hasn't happened. Keep trying harder, conspiracy theorists.
quote: How about America earning 9/11 because they wrecked Afghanistan?
quote: Kindly consult BP.
quote: We didn't wreck Afghanistan. You can thank the Soviets for that. We only supplied the resistance weapons to fight the Communist oppression.
quote: Nice acronym. Do you even know what BP stands for? I'll give you one guess, no, zero guesses. I'll tell you!British Petroleum.Their address:1 St. James's SquareLondon, SW1Y 4PDThat doesn't look like America to me.Try harder, I expect more of you if you're going to succeed here on Dailtech.
quote: I know what BP stands for.
quote: Read up on the US assistance in the war. For starters, the USS Ohio unloaded 154 Tomahawks on the first day of the war.
quote: The Afghanis deeply resent the Americans.
quote: If you did, you wouldn't have made such an asinine statement.
quote: Pay better attention to what I wrote. I talked about the Reagan bombing of Libya in 1986. Were you even alive then and of school age? (1-12) I didn't respond at all to your comment about Tomahawks because it wasn't worthy of one. I see no Libyan occupation so get over it.
quote: That's their problem. If you can't see how oppressive Communism is/was then you can't be helped. Try living under Communism for a while before you comment. I know many who have and not a single one misses it.
quote: Yes, we used Afghanistan as a tool, a tool to fight the Cold War indirectly. That's how you fight a Cold War, by the way. I still say if the people stood up for themselves, they'd be better off. I can't help the fact that women are beaten routinely over there, daughters are "honor killed," people are stoned to death and refused education. It is their own fault and has always been such in the thousands of years the repulsive "gang" of Islam has devoured lives.
quote: We didn't support the Taliban in the 80's. There was no such thing.
quote: It was the Pakistians who founded the Taliban. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban
quote: I wrote about BP & oil contracts. Everybody knows Britain, France & USA attacked Libya.
quote: There objectives were oil and if they got it there is no point in prolonging it.
quote: You would cherish communism if you lived under fundamentalism.
quote: Mexico is pretty much controlled.. they are at the "we dont give a damn what you do as long you sell us cheap oil".
quote: What the United States has done with it's Nuclear Deterrent advantage, was usher in some of the longest periods of sustained global peace in the history of mankind.
quote: longest periods of sustained global peace in the history of mankind.
quote: On top of that, our goals were not about stopping Nazi rule of Germany.
quote: What is wrong with you? Churchill was just as bad, or worst, than Hitler? There's just no way to even talk to someone with that opinion. That's an indefensible statement, and radically extremist.
quote: I'm not saying Churchill was perfect, or the UK was for that matter.
quote: But it seems like you're avoiding the simple fact that Churchill did NOT commit military forces to invade it's neighbors and occupy their lands.
quote: Any idiot could tell you who was the "bad guy" between him and Hitler.
quote: Oh and that Holocaust thing? Yeaaah.
quote: This is why I hate people like you who engage in moral relativistic arguments. You can twist EVERYTHING to such a point that it's all shades of grey, and nothing is objective. I bet you could sit here and make a convincing argument that a child rapist is no worst than Gandhi.
quote: UK had the largest land empire. Do you think that swathes of Asia, Africa & Australia were conquered by sweets & toy guns?
quote: Yes because when discussing Churchill, it's important to bring up shit that happened hundreds of years before he was born.
quote: Either one life is precious or none of them are.
quote: You my friend are the one pissing all over America by saying that killing people outside our borders is justified simply because why? we are better than them?
quote: I wonder if you see what an ass you look like right now. And how is the Bill of Rights even part of this, only a twisted mind like yours would even make that connection lol.
quote: Point is, what in the HELL do those statements have to do with nuclear weapons and WWII?
quote: Sometimes that may be difficult, sometimes that may cost lives, those decisions are never easy.
quote: Will their be death in war? Even civilian, Yes. Should we do our best to limit it. Of course.
quote: America is defined by willing sacrifice for others. We have the choice to live absent selfish lives, but we choose to better everyone.. Sometimes at our own expense. That's what it means to be American.
quote: Nobody is holding you responsible for something that happened in the goddamn 1940's. Stop being ridiculous. Talk about a soapbox!
quote: 150,000 plus people incinerated without even a second's chance to escape or survive or surrender is NOT noble. Regardless of the secondary outcomes.
quote: Read this carefully as it may save your life or the life of a relative or friend. In the next few days, some or all of the cities named on the reverse side will be destroyed by American bombs. These cities contain military installations and workshops or factories which produce military goods. We are determined to destroy all of the tools of the military clique which they are using to prolong this useless war. But, unfortunately, bombs have no eyes. So, in accordance with America’s humanitarian policies, the American Air Force, which does not wish to injure innocent people, now gives you warning to evacuate the cities named and save your lives. America is not fighting the Japanese people but is fighting the military clique which has enslaved the Japanese people. The peace which America will bring will free the people from the oppression of the military clique and mean the emergence of a new and better Japan. You can restore peace by demanding new and good leaders who will end the war. We cannot promise that only these cities will be among those attacked but some or all of them will be, so heed this warning and evacuate these cities immediately.
quote: America asks that you take immediate heed of what we say on this leaflet.We are in possession of the most destructive explosive ever devised by man. A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2000 of our giant B-29s can carry on a single mission. This awful fact is one for you to ponder and we solemnly assure you it is grimly accurate. We have just begun to use this weapon against your homeland. If you still have any doubt, make inquiry as to what happened to Hiroshima when just one atomic bomb fell on that city. Before using this bomb to destroy every resource of the military by which they are prolonging this useless war, we ask that you now petition the Emperor to end the war. Our president has outlined for you the thirteen consequences of an honorable surrender. We urge that you accept these consequences and begin the work of building a new, better and peace-loving Japan. You should take steps now to cease military resistance. Otherwise, we shall resolutely employ this bomb and all our other superior weapons to promptly and forcefully end the war.
quote: If this is acceptable warfare, why the need for smart weapons?? Why put any of our troops on the ground, anywhere. Surely we have the ordinance/capability to send nations like Iraq into surrender without losing a single soldier on our side. Simply bomb them into surrender... Why not? Because civilian casualties like Japan ARE NOT acceptable.
quote: "The H-bomb was the most effective weapon for killing and destroying as many of them, without killing as many of us. So we used it."
quote: Who says a full blown invasion was even necessary.
quote: Curious...is there another country a greater beacon of liberty and freedom?
quote: Not to say ours is the greatest, right now. American's beacon is diming, diming fast. :(
quote: It would be better if America keeps the liberty & freedom inside the country.
quote: Ask the Vietnamese, Afghanis & Iraqis.
quote: We tried that twice, didn't work out so well. The result were these two incidents called World War One, and World War Two.
quote: If we reverted to an isolationist policy, the resulting deaths and atrocities that would fill the vacuum would trump anything we've done
quote: Ok and ask the entirety of Europe, South Korea, Asia that we liberated from the Japanese and countless others.
quote: And Iraq? How exactly were they better off under Saddam again?
quote: And more importantly, the most significant contribution to world peace was the forming of the United States itself and NOT submitting to British rule. Can you imagine what history would have been like with the British Empire extending to North America and beyond?
quote: The world has governed itself for thousands of years.
quote: WW II started in 1939. America only entered when Pearl Harbor happened. Thats 2 years later and millions dead.
quote: Europe is quite capable of freeing itself. Last time I checked UK, Germany, France & Russia were European.
quote: You liberated Asia & Japan? Which history book is this?
quote: I have got news for you. The British America did extend to North America and beyond
quote: Might wanna look into how it "governed" itself. I think what we have now is far more preferable. But that's just my opinion.
quote: How does this make me wrong? Point is, it started. WWII would not have started today, because we would have intervened WAY sooner. That's what we do, intervene on the worlds behalf so regional conflicts don't blow up into massive world wars.
quote: You mean today or back then? Do you even understand the context of the discussion? Europe was not proving to be very capable of freeing itself without American involvement, thank you much.
quote: Wow....we freed Asian FROM Japan. Hello? What history books do YOU read! By 1941 they had conquered all of Southeast Asia and much of Eastern China!
quote: Can you read and understand context? When we declared and fought for independence, the single largest expansion of the Imperialistic British Empire was stopped cold. In terms of landmass, resources, and strategic value we cannot overstate how important it was for North America to not fall under British rule.
quote: America did not say a word when Indo China went to the French post WW2. They only intervened after Vietnam freed itself from the French so that Vietnam did not turn communist.
quote: You are talking about too different things. Spreading democracy is different than being a beacon for liberty and freedom
quote: Being a beacon of libtery and freedom implies people should come here where those values already reside. Spreading democracy is the opposite, we go to where there isn't freedom and liberty and open the doors to it.
quote: I would much rather be a beacon than a spreader.
quote: In your last comment, don't speak for the world. Don't be so sure that people don't want our Tomahawks or B-52s. Case in point, during the second Gulf War. I don't remember the travel magazine. A reporter went to Libya to review travel locations in Libya. At one of his stops, at a local eatery, he interviewed a few of the locals. On the TV was coverage of US and what was going on in Iraq. To a man, they wished the US would do the same to Libya that they did or were doing in Iraq. I'm really surprised he kept that piece in his article.
quote: Agree with the first part. Not so for the second part. Case in point: Afghanistan, Vietnam, Cuba etc
quote: Please don't jump all over the place. The example of the Libya people I gave was during the Bush era, not during Obamas. They saw what was happening in Iraq and wished it would happen to them in the there and now.
quote: Not sure what you were trying to say. But you gave examples of spreading democracy which line up with my definition of spreading democracy. So you agree with both parts after all
quote: The funny thing about it, we wouldn't have been in Afganistan or even Iraq if the Taliban would have handed over OBL like we asked!
quote: Can you put 2+2 together and get 4?
quote: Nowhere was it mentioned Gaddhafi and radical Islamists.
quote: And my point stands. If the Taliban had handed over OBL. The US would have had no standing in going into Afganistan. And why did we going into Afganistan? To get OBL. Or was it for oil??!!
quote: Nor would we would have gone into Iraq due to the "War on Terrorism" if we had OBL in hand. A little side note which people over look with Iraq. One of the stated reasons OBL wanted to attack the US was because of our troops being in the holy land, Saudi Arabia. And why did we have troops in Saudi Arabia, Iraq!
quote: Are you sure OBL and/or Taliban had nothing to do with Iraq? Outside of what I stated above. Look up Salim Pak. Surely only Iraqs were getting training at said faclility?
quote: As for the Iraq resolution, can Iraq impose a no fly zone over USA for invading a sovereign nation?
quote: Its no secret that the UN resolution was imposed coz the US wanted to invade Iraq.
quote: BTW, the US invasion was not under UN mandate.