Sources: AP, Miiquality, BBC News
quote: Personally, I support both sides being tolerant of each other. I don't support intolerance.
quote: Bestiality is not victimless, an animal cannot give consent.
quote: beg to differ. Most animals have a lot more and more dangerous ways to say "not tonight honey" than humans do... hooves, teeth, claws, etc... and any combination thereof...
quote: There should be no marriage "laws" period. No benefits for being married. No punishments for being single. THAT is true equality. We don't need marriage laws to decide who can inherit our stuff, who is our emergency contact, who we want to be able to visit us in the hospital, etc. Then marriage is left up to where it belongs. The church. If people want to make promises to each other, the government has no business in it.
quote: Either everyone can be married, or you're being intolerant. That's the beginning and the end of it.
quote: Just because I don't support gay marriage doesn't make me a bigot.
quote: So you keep telling yourself whatever lies you want. Reality is reality. And denying the same rights to one group of people that everyone else gets is bigotry. Period.
quote: Face it, you are an extremist.
quote: You say: treat everyone equally, except the gays.
quote: And that, my friend, is you. You're so sick with it that it's left you bereft of any possibility of help. The best case would be for you to not reproduce and/or have contact with others, lest you be contagious
quote: You've not got the slightest concept of "equality" - but you are a whacking great egomaniac...megalomaniac maybe, and probably a narcissist. All of which fit in neatly with your extreme form of reality-distortion.
quote: The same thing would happen if they refrained from baking cakes for an interracial couple and stated it was due to their religion
quote: I say: treat everyone equally.
quote: I thought I already explained to you that the solution is to make it so that only religious institutes who do not discriminate would be allowed to legally marry people.
quote: Regardless of what it's termed legally, people will just refer to it as getting or being "married".
quote: Religion has basically stolen marriage from society. This is the root of the issue that needs to be ripped up before this problem is truly solved.
quote: I can't compromise on a solution that doesn't provide equal rights for everyone.
quote: It is within church's rights to marry who they want, but not to tell others who can be married.
quote: It's simple argument, please stay focused. What gives religious people the right over the word marriage.
quote: What they cannot do is dictate to the state who the state can marry
quote: Really if you can't answer this, you lose
quote: Given the tens of thousands of times the word 'marriage' appears in federal, state, county and city laws...
quote: Calling for a constitutional amendment is calling for inaction. The constitution already supports at the least a prohibition against discrimination. This has been upheld explicitly for decades now. That is the basis of state laws against homosexuals being overturned. There is no further legal work needed, the courts simply need to continue to overturn the illegal laws banning gay marriage and the situation is more or less settled. The law already supports this. We simply need to enforce it.
quote: Answer: Everyone gets a civil union. Existing laws are changed so marriage is abolished from the legal language and replaced with civil union.
quote: Every argument you made here was also made in the stand against interracial marriage. And they were just as ridiculous and bigoted at that time too.
quote: Fortunately being gay is also not a disease or mental disorder.
quote: And marriage is about gender for YOU, but not necessarily for others. It used to be about race as well, but fortunately laws were changed and race was removed as a factor, just as gender is being removed now.
quote: Again, same complaints, same bigotry, same end result. Can't wait to see Idaho issuing marriage licenses for homosexuals on Friday, that's another state that would have never done the right thing voluntarily so its good to see the courts step in.
quote: What makes me laugh, is that the gays are so intolerant of everyone else's views.
quote: r how about games made only in english and not any other language?
quote: In addition to sodomy laws, men who have sex with men are denied the ability to act as blood donors in the U.S.
quote: - While estimates show that men who have sex with men (MSM) comprise only about 2% of the U.S. population, this group accounts for most new HIV infections (63% in 2010, with an additional 3% occurring in MSM with a history of injection drug use).4,5 Between 2008 and 2010, annual new HIV infections increased 12% among MSM.- Among MSM, whites accounted for the largest number of new infections (11,200) in 2010, followed by Blacks (10,600).- Younger MSM (ages 13-24) are at particular risk. In 2010, this group accounted for 1 in 5 (19%) of all new HIV infections and 30% of new infections among all MSM. Among Black MSM, this age group accounted for 45% of new infections.- New infections among MSM ages 13-24 increased by 22% between 2008 and 2010, the most significant increase of any age group.- A study in 20 major U.S. cities found that about 1 in 5 (18%) MSM is already living with HIV, with even higher prevalence among Black MSM, and many are unaware of their infection.
quote: HIV cases are well tracked because you are either in treatment or you are soon dead.
quote: And yes it is tested for but that costs money. Why spend money on a small segment of the population (I guess you know more than they do about HIV though) when there is a good chance that you'll end up throwing out the sample anyway.
quote: I don't care about the game either. But if I was a parent, I would question the need for a kids game to have gay marriage. I mean come on, this discussion is getting ridiculous.
quote: The simple fact is homosexuality is a biologically invalid lifestyle.
quote: You are still free to be a donor to a surrogate and have a child or even adopt. Nothing is limiting you from having kids.
quote: Thanks for this. Given that these options are all viable options for homosexual couples, it is nice to see that you have changed your stance on their biological validity.Just one more hurdle overcome!
quote: When did he mention your wife? He didn't. In-fact you did. You were the one who made it a point of argument. He talked about 2 dudes being biologically invalid. It is. 2 dudes even if they separated and went with other dudes will never ever produce a child.
quote: So yeah, it should probably include gay options
quote: I'm sorry but I just can't view gay marriage as a civil rights issue. We are not free to marry whoever we want in this country. I can't have two wives. I can't marry a 12 year old. And I don't know anyone who believes two siblings should be able to marry. There are more and probably better examples, but moving on..
quote: So once you have conceded that not every imaginable relationship should be called a marriage, you are conceding that there is no civil right to marry anyone you want.
quote: To clarify, people do have a constitutional right to get married. But the idea that people have a constitutional right to declare any relationship they might find themselves involved in a marriage is both legally unsupportable and silly.
quote: By making this a "civil rights" issue, it's just all too easy to label someone a hateful bigot if they don't agree. It's just a bit too convenient and simplistic.
quote: Believe what you want but understand that what is happening today is a bizarre event that will end badly.