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The Wii U will be available in two different models: a Basic Set and a Deluxe version.

Nintendo announced price, launch and system details concerning its new Wii U console today -- and U.S./Japan residents will soon be able to get their hands on it. 
 
Nintendo fans can expect two different Wii U models: a Deluxe version and a Basic Set version. The Basic Set features 8 GB HDD, a Wii U Pad controller and it in comes in white. The Deluxe model, on the other hand, offers 32 GB HDD, a Wii U Pad controller, power cradles for the Wii U Pad, an HDMI cable and it comes in black. 
 
Some extras that Nintendo fans can look forward to include a separate controller called the Wii U Pro, which resembles an Xbox 360 controller; 25 GB game discs; Wii U's social network Mii Universe, and the system itself is backwards compatible with the original Wii console. 
 
The launch titles for Wii U are "Nintendoland" and the "New Super Mario Bros." 
 
Looking to pick up a Basic Set? It'll cost you $299.99. Or, if you're looking to go all out with the Deluxe model, Nintendo will hit your wallet for $349.99. 
 
Wii U will hit the U.S. on November 18 while those in Japan will have to wait until December 8.

Source: Kotaku



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Too expensive
By tayb on 9/13/2012 6:35:34 PM , Rating: 2
I like the Wii. I get more fun out of the Wii than I do with my 360 or PS3. Not much beats getting together for mario kart or super smash bros.

Unfortunately I paid $100 for my Wii on craigslist with a boat load of accessories and that was about as much as I would be willing to pay. At $300 it needs to have some serious value and that value needed to include blu-ray, much larger hard drive, better graphics capabilities, etc. I think Nintendo is in trouble.




RE: Too expensive
By ChronoReverse on 9/13/2012 6:43:15 PM , Rating: 3
Supposedly it's native 1080p instead of the 720p scaled to 1080 the 360 and the PS3 does. It also has 4x the RAM of the 360 (and functionally 8x the PS3's split 512MB) so that goes along with the 4x GPU power needed to push 1080p.

So power-wise it's not that bad.

As for the hard drive, you can plug in whatever cheap USB storage you have. Better than charging an arm and leg and trying to "differentiate" models.


RE: Too expensive
By someguy123 on 9/13/2012 9:47:09 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not really sure why they differentiate the RAM in their reveal but I'm assuming they have a similar setup to the ps3 with two different RAM pools, so essentially it's 2~4x the 360 and 4x the ps3. Seems like 1gb is much too much for dedicated system ram in a console, though, so maybe it's unified. 2gb pure ram would be pretty substantial considering even most PC games don't go over the 32bit limit.


RE: Too expensive
By TakinYourPoints on 9/14/2012 1:35:20 AM , Rating: 3
It isn't different RAM pools, it is different local storage sizes for games and media.

RAM on all hardware will be the same, it has to be since there needs to be a uniform baseline spec for developers.


RE: Too expensive
By someguy123 on 9/15/2012 4:14:56 AM , Rating: 2
What? The wiiU's specs are 1gb of system RAM and 1gb of ram "for games". It actually is two ram pools.

I'm not referring to the NAND storage.


RE: Too expensive
By Samus on 9/13/2012 11:56:16 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Unfortunately I paid $100 for my Wii on craigslist with a boat load of accessories...


Come again? How is that unfortunate?


RE: Too expensive
By tayb on 9/14/2012 9:25:14 AM , Rating: 2
Haha. Really poor wording. Unfortunate for Nintendo because that is about the maximum I was willing to pay for the wii. I would be willing to pay maybe $200 for the wii U but not $300+


RE: Too expensive
By SPOOFE on 9/14/2012 3:09:35 PM , Rating: 2
It's just a matter of time for you, then. You're just a "I won't buy it at launch" person. That means if and when you do buy it cheap, there'll also be a slew of games for you, also for cheap.

Go you. Patience has its rewards.


$50 difference?
By xti on 9/13/2012 5:47:44 PM , Rating: 2
with $50 being mice nuts, was surprised there wasnt a good $100 gap between the 2 models.




RE: $50 difference?
By anactoraaron on 9/13/2012 6:23:27 PM , Rating: 2
Nintendo is no apple.


RE: $50 difference?
By fic2 on 9/13/2012 7:34:32 PM , Rating: 2
No kidding - most people will think that the HDMI cable alone is worth the $50 upcharge!


Umm
By Ish718 on 9/14/2012 12:26:58 AM , Rating: 2
So, how much does an Wii U Controller cost? $100?




RE: Umm
By ChronoReverse on 9/14/2012 12:45:15 AM , Rating: 2
You can only have 2 connected anyway; it's meant for asymmetric gaming it seems.

For most games this is the controller you need: http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/03/wii-u-pro-contro...

Or the Wiimote+Nunchuk combo it seems.


RE: Umm
By FITCamaro on 9/14/2012 1:39:17 PM , Rating: 2
A new one of the controllers with the screen is going to cost $170.


i am geting the 350 one
By lenardo on 9/14/2012 10:09:42 AM , Rating: 2
the article forgot one MAIN difference between the basic and deluxe-a game.

the deluxe ALSO comes with nintendoland (50 dollar value)
rechargable cradle for the tablet and auto enrollment in their digital deluxe program- you get 10% back in digital dollars per digital purchase for additional digital content

so say you buy zombiu digitally for 60, you get 6 dollars "in your account" to buy anything else in the nintendo shop.

for those saying "weak"

do NOT compare this to the ps3 or 360 compare it to nintendo's LAST console. the Wii...

this console -graphically- is ~20x the power of the wii,

sure it is no powerhouse vs what is coming next from ms and sony, but it does not need to be, it just has to be "good enough" to get all the ports- which is it). will ports for the ps3 or 360 look BETTER on the wiiU? no, because those consoles are cpu centric for it's power, the wiiu is gpgpu centric, so all "next gen" engines that are gpgpu centric designs, will run...yes that includes unreal4.




By inperfectdarkness on 9/14/2012 1:56:45 PM , Rating: 2
100% agree. if gaming is going to remain stagnant at 1080p, then the wii u has plenty of power for the task at hand.

this console war (ms will be next, sony isn't planning on a release for several more years) will be very much determined by software support, and not by hardware specs. nintendo has always had a strong pimp-hand when it comes to 1st party games. let's hope that 3rd parties don't continue to exhibit the fanboishness that they have with the current console generation.


By ChronoReverse on 9/13/2012 6:32:49 PM , Rating: 2
Although I'm not holding out too much hope because Nintendo tends to be backwards in at least one area every generation it seems.

At least I can plug in whatever HDD I want.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/wii-u-memory-ti...
quote:
The Nintendo Wii U may only have 8 to 32GB of internal memory, but the company's taking a decidedly open approach to expanding that memory: add your own. "You can plug in a full-on three terabyte hard drive if you want. I'll love you as a digital consumer," Nintendo America CEO and president Reggie Fils-Aime told us during a post-press conference investor Q&A. Much like Sony's PlayStation 3, the Wii U allows for expansion of memory via USB, whether that memory be Flash or otherwise. Fils-Aime explained that, with the continuously dropping price of memory, there was little reason to offer pricing for the Wii U -- available in $300 and $350 -- tied to an evolving hardware model. "The reason we did it that way is that the cost of that type of storage memory is plummeting. What we didn't want to do is tie a profit model to something that's gonna rapidly decline over time. We'll let the consumer buy as much as they want, as cheaply as they want," Fils-Aime said.




Junk.
By Roy2001 on 9/13/12, Rating: -1
RE: Junk.
By Warren21 on 9/13/2012 6:00:22 PM , Rating: 4
Actually, The Wii U has higher capabilities than both the 360 and the PS3...


RE: Junk.
By lightfoot on 9/13/2012 6:09:55 PM , Rating: 1
And the XBOX 360 has more power than the PS2 and the Gamecube. This console needs to compete with the next generation of consoles, not consoles that are over 6 years old.

It looks to me like the vast majority of the Wii U technology is in the controller and not the console its self.


RE: Junk.
By Warren21 on 9/13/2012 6:19:56 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
And the XBOX 360 has more power than the PS2 and the Gamecube. This console needs to compete with the next generation of consoles, not consoles that are over 6 years old.


I can't argue with that. I do believe however that Nintendo played the 7th (current) generation console war the smartest.

They are releasing two consoles in the same time the competition released one; will sell both from day one with profitability on the hardware; sell both at an acceptable launch price that people are willing to buy (remember "599 U.S. Dollars!" anyone?); do not have to over-extend the life period of the console (Sony wanted the PS3 to last for "10 years" ... realistically not feasible) in order to feel like they didn't take a massive hit on the bleeding edge hardware.

That being said, I don't even own a Wii, but I've owned two 360's (RROD on first) and a PS3 slim. Still, I tip my hat to Nintendo. I might even buy a Wii U sometime in 2013.


RE: Junk.
By someguy123 on 9/13/2012 9:40:25 PM , Rating: 2
That's true, but ultimately the 360/ps3 were overspec'd at the time and cost both companies billions to subsidize, and now we're at an incredibly long console cycle with the next gen still a rumor. Nintendo is a pretty small company compared to sony and microsoft so I doubt they will ever be able to compete with them in specs, so they may as well go to alternative gameplay mechanisms, even if gimmicky.

Right now they're also managing to scoop up some decent japanese games, which is causing a bit of a negative uproar for some reason. I guess everyone asking for nintendo to get decent 3rd party content never expected it to actually happen.


RE: Junk.
By Samus on 9/14/2012 12:05:30 AM , Rating: 2
Nintendo a small company?

Toyota Denso, Fujitsu Heavy Industrial and Nintendo are among the three largest companies in Japan. Nintendo makes billions of dollars a year. They're no Apple (thank God) but they still have a huge profit margin on consoles, accessories and licensing.

They are the most profitable and largest in revenue videogame company in the world.

http://www.dailytech.com/Nintendo+Now+the+Fifth+La...


RE: Junk.
By someguy123 on 9/15/2012 4:18:37 AM , Rating: 2
Hence the comparison to two other companies....


RE: Junk.
By someguy123 on 9/15/2012 4:21:27 AM , Rating: 2
Also nintendo ended up taking a gigantic chunk of their total available cash recently according to their earnings reports, likely to produce the wiiU, so I really doubt they would've been able to overspec this thing even if they wanted to.


RE: Junk.
By Wolfpup on 9/14/2012 9:50:57 AM , Rating: 2
Does it? I've seen absolutely nothing to indicate that it does. The assumption is it'll be about as good to a little bit better, but there's no actual indication of that, and nothing Nintendo has said or shown so far looks as good as better games on the other two consoles.


RE: Junk.
By ChronoReverse on 9/14/2012 10:13:38 AM , Rating: 2
Simply by outputting 1080p, that alone implies 4x the capability. Keep in mind, both the 360 and the PS3 currently render at 720p and upscale to 1080p. In fact, for the earlier games, they even had to render at slightly below 720p!


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