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@evleaks gives us one last "leak"

Notorious devices leaker Evan Blass stated that he was going to retire due to financial and health reasons, but it looks as though he isn’t quite ready to hang up his hat just yet. Today, Blass — via his @evleaks Twitter account — leaked some press renders of the upcoming Moto X+1 ahead of its early September launch.
The images show a Verizon Wireless-branded device in both black and white with a wood grain back cover.

There were no confirmed specs included with the press renders, but the Moto X+1 is rumored to include a 5.2” 1080p display, Snapdragon 801 processor, 2GB of RAM, and 32GB of internal storage.
In other smartphone news, we’ve been shown the additional schematics of the 4.7” and 5.5” iPhone 6 (a single image showing the protruding camera of the 5.5” iPhone 6 was shown earlier this week, but was incorrectly attributed to the 4.7” model). The images were taken from computers running in Foxconn’s smartphone factory.

The leaked images show that the 4.7” model measures 5.4” long and 2.6” wide, while having a thickness of 6.9mm. The 5.5” model measures 6.2” long and 3” wide, with a thickness of 7.1mm. On the 4.7” iPhone 6, the camera ring protrudes out from the body by 0.77mm, while it protrudes just 0.67mm on the 5.5” iPhone 6.

In a separate report on the new iPhone, Reuters indicates that Apple is making some last minute adjustments to the display panel due to issues with the backlight. The report notes:
Apple, aiming for the thinnest phone possible, initially wanted to cut back to a single layer of backlight film, instead of the standard two layers, for the 4.7-inch screen, which went into mass production ahead of the 5.5-inch version.
But the new configuration was not bright enough and the backlight was sent back to the drawing board to fit in the extra layer, costing precious time and temporarily idling some screen assembly operations, the source said.
Reuters went on to state that suppliers are now working in overdrive mode to make up for lost time during the backlight snafu.
The iPhone 6 is scheduled to be unveiled on September 9.

Sources: @evleaks, Mac Rumors, Reuters

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The 5.5 is thicker???
By corduroygt on 8/22/2014 10:45:46 AM , Rating: 2
Makes no sense, usually it should get thinner with an increase in the other dimensions.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By Nortel on 8/22/14, Rating: -1
RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By retrospooty on 8/22/2014 11:02:14 AM , Rating: 2
"I'm pretty excited for the iPhone pro :)"

Welcome to 2012. ;)

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By corduroygt on 8/22/14, Rating: 0
RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By retrospooty on 8/22/2014 11:15:45 AM , Rating: 2
They are pretty amazing with that. They come out consistently with tech that is lacking soooo many features, and usually costs more than its competitors, especially when you put in a decent ram upgrade for $100 each step, and they manage to sell insane amounts. Apple is truly a marketing powerhouse.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By Flunk on 8/22/2014 11:40:17 AM , Rating: 2
I'd argue that lack of features is a feature of its own when those features are either useless or counter-productive. Samsung (and a few other phone manufacturers) often fall into this trap and add a bunch of features that no one ends up using because they're either not good enough or duplicate functionality.

I'd rather have a phone that works well than one with the most features. Especially dubious ones like that eye-scrolling feature the S4 has that everyone ends up trying for the first few days and turning off.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By retrospooty on 8/22/2014 11:59:26 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed, alot of them do some overkill, especially Samsung. But most of that is useless poorly written software, not actual features. Things like SD, removable batteries, NFC, 5th row on keyboards, alt key mapping, widgets, accessible file system etc. are all great. Samsung adding awful apps like S-voice and 2 dozen other poorly written apps on top of those is where they get bloated and bogged down.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By Reclaimer77 on 8/22/2014 1:20:42 PM , Rating: 3
Eyescroll and crap like that isn't the "features" he's referring to and you know it.

Things like, oh I don't know, 4G LTE! I would call that a pretty beneficial feature. SD slots? Supporting files types that AREN'T just exclusive to iTunes. The list goes on and on.

I'd rather have a phone that works well

All phones today "work well". You Apple zealots still talk like it's 2008. Please get a clue.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By hughlle on 8/22/2014 1:57:21 PM , Rating: 2
Doesn't matter, its still a gimmick. It was only a week ago you were lambasting apple for trying to get people to upgrade due to an app, siri, as well as the hardware improvements, but Samsung are exactly the same, trying to convince you to upgrade for an app, eye scrolling. Put more effort into making a good phone as an incentive to upgrade, not an application.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By Spuke on 8/22/2014 3:31:22 PM , Rating: 2
Put more effort into making a good phone as an incentive to upgrade, not an application.
What's bad about their phones other than the gimmicky stuff?

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By Reclaimer77 on 8/24/2014 10:57:58 AM , Rating: 2
Wait, Samsung withholds eyescroll from older models to force an upgrade? I don't think so.

You've completely missed the point of my post. Yes Samsung uses gimmicks too. They just don't try and parlay those into you buying the latest and greatest just for an app like Apple did.

Put more effort into making a good phone as an incentive to upgrade

Done and done. Samsung flagships blow the iPhone away and have ever since the S2.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By Spuke on 8/22/2014 1:42:29 PM , Rating: 2
I'd rather have a phone that works well
I haven't used a phone in at least 5 years that doesn't work well. Not sure what phones you're using.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By Banana Bandit on 8/22/2014 3:39:41 PM , Rating: 2
Don't know what phones you use, but my Samsung Galaxy S4 works just fine thank you very much. Never had an issue with it.

It Just Works.

And guess what? It works fine whether or not I want to use these so-called dodgy features you are referring to.

And I still have 80GB of storage that I can actually run some of my programs from and I can *gasp!* replace its battery in about 5 seconds flat..

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By Nortel on 8/22/14, Rating: -1
RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By retrospooty on 8/22/2014 4:51:56 PM , Rating: 5
Another day, another hilarious Nortel post full of inaccuracies.

"the 80GB of storage you are referring to is incredibly slow compared to the NAND"

Not really. You can get some pretty fast SD cards for cheap these days.

"Developers are just not creating apps for the S4"

Yes they are. It's called the Play store and there are a billion apps. a couple thousand of them are really good ;)

"OS updates are seriously delayed if ever available (4.4.4 just released yesterday)."

It's been on Kitkat 4.4.2 for a while. 4.4.4 just came out 2 months ago.

"Then carry this extra battery around with you at all times... instead of simply having a charger at your desk during the day."

No-one does that. The extra battery would be when and if you go on a trip and wont be around a place to charge. It last a good 2 days of normal use, or 1 full day of heavy use like any phone. The spare battery is for "when you need it" not a day to day thing.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By ummduh on 8/23/2014 5:23:14 PM , Rating: 1
"As for battery, I certainly see this as an advantage but there are caveats which are being overlooked here. The battery does not charge itself. You're device needs to be:

phone plugged in
charged "as is"
phone turned off
back cover removed
charged battery taken out
empty battery put in
back cover replaced
phone turned on
phone unplugged

Then carry this extra battery around with you at all times... instead of simply having a charger at your desk during the day. "

Hmm.. OR, charge the extra battery in a battery charging dock, that usually comes with the battery, and keep it in your lunchbox/glovebox/wherever until you need it. I got 2 batteries and the charger for $15 when I used an S3, and that's exactly what I did. Put the dead battery back in the charger when you get home, and put it back wherever you got the spare from until next time. Less than 30 seconds from dead to 100%.

Also, who turns off their phone before pulling the battery?

So it's more like:

Gather your spare battery
Pull cover off of phone
pull battery
replace battery
put cover back on while turning phone on (don't tell me you can't figure out how to do 2 things at a time!)
Put dead battery back in charger

I like my N5 right now, but as soon as a viable replacement comes around with a mSD card and a swappable battery, it's gone. The S5 is up there, but it's twice what I'm willing to spend on a phone.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By robinthakur on 8/28/2014 8:44:58 AM , Rating: 2
Especially as the first thing you do to a Samsung phone to get it to perform anything like as good as a stock AOSP is... disable all the Samsung features and cull all the animations. On my old SGS5, Air Scrolling, the previous years standout headline feature, was buried in a 3 level menu this year and disabled by default. Samsung seem to be taking the hint though and reducing the pointless features nobody ever uses.

I've found HTC features more Apple-like (i.e. reliable and generally useful) but Apple still is better at telling people about it! A case in point is the Duo Camera on the One M8 which is a key key features of the phone but it is very easy to miss entirely if you aren't in the habit of editing your photos after you take them.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By corduroygt on 8/22/2014 4:31:26 PM , Rating: 2
You can't get a ram upgrade on an iPhone, nitpick but it's storage not memory

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By retrospooty on 8/22/2014 4:52:57 PM , Rating: 2
I know... mental error. I meant storage.

RE: The 5.5 is thicker???
By CZroe on 8/22/2014 4:47:42 PM , Rating: 2

For something the same thickness and materials, it actually gets easier to bend far enough to break the longer it is. Take a long, break-able branch and try to bend it enough to break. If you break it, take one of those pieces and try to do it again. It will get harder and harder to break because you are losing leverage.

My Galaxy Note 3 seems almost too thin. It's hard to tell that it's thicker than an iPhone 5S. If it were as thin as an iPhone 5S, I'd worry about sitting down with it in my back pocket. Because Apple is going almost as large and yet EVEN thinner than an iPhone 5S, it matters even more. The metallic housing may help, but rumors are that it might not get the sapphire display after all. Sapphire actually shatters more easily than mineral glass at 5.5" but theirs is clearly different (demonstrated to be somewhat flexible by MKBHD). I fix several phones a month for customers so I'm worried about getting a 5.5" model without something to address the problem.

By shabby on 8/22/2014 2:15:28 PM , Rating: 2
Is there any other 5.5" phone that is bigger than 77x158mm? Apple definitely wins this round.
They should of hired sharp to design their phone with an edge2edge display.

RE: Monstrosity
By peterrushkin on 8/24/2014 5:39:24 PM , Rating: 2
I know, gimme gimme if that was the case. I do like Sharps design!

Hopefully they will take a cue!

Maybe I am reading too much into this, but...
By siconik on 8/22/2014 2:57:24 PM , Rating: 2
The 4.7 inch iPhone model is coded as N61, where 6 presumably refers to product generation and 1 to model in the series. (It would follow since the iPhone 5 they use for comparison is coded as N51). Does the fact then that 5.5 inch iPhone is coded as N56 suggest it is a development of 5th generation iPhone as opposed to 6th, from the internal hardware perspective, a replacement for i5C, but now with large screen?

By Lord 666 on 8/24/2014 10:06:56 PM , Rating: 2
Think you are dead on, but with the 5.5" phone being updated 5s devices.

Looking forward to the iphone 6, 5.5"
By peterrushkin on 8/22/14, Rating: 0
By retrospooty on 8/22/2014 10:46:40 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, its long overdue. Of the huge list of missing features on the iPhone, the one most people care about is that screen size and res. The rest combined isnt as important as that one. It's going to sell in huge #'s.

4 Corners
By kamiller422 on 8/25/2014 11:09:12 AM , Rating: 2
My Apple masters taught me that if my thumb can't reach all 4 corners then the phone is not worthy. It's lacking thoughtful design. I cannot buy either of these phones unless I lengthen my thumbs, which I'll do. For Apple, anything is worth it.

"It's okay. The scenarios aren't that clear. But it's good looking. [Steve Jobs] does good design, and [the iPad] is absolutely a good example of that." -- Bill Gates on the Apple iPad

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