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*But an Office 365 subscription is needed to do more than just reading or presenting

It's finally happening: Office for iPad Rumored for March 27 Launch
. According to Forbes, Office for iPad is available starting today for free in Apple's App Store. 
 
However, if users want to do more than just basic tasks, they'll have to pay for an Office 365 subscription. This will allow for more advanced tasks, such as editing documents or accessing OneDrive for Business.
 
The Office suite is available as three separate apps: Microsoft Word for iPad, Microsoft Excel for iPad, and Microsoft PowerPoint for iPad.
 
The announcement came at an event in San Francisco, which covered the intersection of cloud and mobile. Microsoft's new CEO Satya Nadella took the stage to introduce the long-awaited app.

Microsoft Word for iPad

There have been talks about a possible Office for iPad app for years. More recently, it was noted that Microsoft wanted to release its own touch-first Office suite before offering a version on a competing platform.

But it seems Nadella wasn't onboard with that idea. Instead of keeping software locked into Windows devices only, he's making moves to put one of Microsoft's most famous suites out in the open.

Nadella even said that the new Microsoft defines users as "individuals and organizations spanning across all devices."

Office for iPad ended up launching ahead of the touch-first version of Office coming for Windows 8, which has been dubbed "Gemini."

Source: Forbes



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So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By Arsynic on 3/27/2014 3:39:37 PM , Rating: 4
Trying to be productive on an iDevice is a joke. But you can't blame MS for trying to sell Office 365 subscriptions.




RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By tonyswash on 3/27/2014 3:54:30 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Trying to be productive on an iDevice is a joke.


It’s a pretty big joke and growing fast. iOS dominates the rapidly growing enterprise tablet market.

http://media.www1.good.com/documents/rpt-mobility-...


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By retrospooty on 3/27/2014 5:24:43 PM , Rating: 2
"iOS dominates the rapidly growing enterprise tablet market."

So , now suddenly market share matters? Am I confiused, or are you :P

http://imgur.com/xnKgT2K

Also :P


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By tonyswash on 3/27/14, Rating: 0
RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By retrospooty on 3/28/2014 12:22:03 AM , Rating: 1
"The main purposes of my original comment was to gently tease the twerps "

Ugh, yes tony, everyone and their mother knows what your agenda is and what you do here.


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By BSMonitor on 3/28/2014 2:25:11 AM , Rating: 2
LMAO, Pot meet Kettle


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By retrospooty on 3/28/2014 8:25:10 AM , Rating: 2
IF I am the pot and he the kettle, you are the poop on the lawn, so just stay home, ya coward.


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By tonyswash on 3/28/14, Rating: 0
RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By retrospooty on 3/30/2014 9:22:28 AM , Rating: 2
"I guess the whole 'iPad is just for consumption PCs are for real rough tough productive men' drivel is looking pretty tired now."

You do realize that these people still go back to the office and get most of it does on PC right? Tablets at work are like gaming... Good to use while "on the go" but when you want to do real work, you go back to your main system. In other words, tablets are NOT replacing PC's at work, they are being used in addition to them.

How long before we see an Android version of Office I wonder

I posted this above at your same ignorant reference. It's been out, just made free the same day it finally released on IOS. Your 2 year old app argument just doesnt hold water any more.

http://www.androidcentral.com/microsoft-office-goe...


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/31/2014 2:40:19 AM , Rating: 2
That isn't a tablet version, it's the same older phone version Android and iOS have had for years.

Read the comments, lots of complaints that it's just the gimped phone version and not the tablet version. I myself have big problem that it doesn't work with Dropbox and is missing basic AirPrint functionality, but that's a whole other discussion.


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By retrospooty on 3/31/14, Rating: 0
RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/31/2014 6:07:05 PM , Rating: 2
There is little in common between a phone app, even if its on something big like a GN3, and a tablet app.

The formatting and layout are totally different between the two versions. Also, an upscaled phone version run on an Android tablet is inferior to a native iPad tablet version. You might as well say that a gimped phone version would run just as well on a desktop monitor, because size is all that matters and forget about UI.

Display size is only one factor. The UI and layout of the application itself also matters. This is why iPad will keep dominating in enterprise, because the tablet apps are treated as totally different things by developers. I've run Android for years though, so I know what I'm talking about when it comes to its strengths and weaknesses.

Is this your way of rationalizing the upscaling of bad Android phone apps into even worse Android tablet apps? You should tell the users in that thread they don't need a good tablet version for Android because everything Android is already perfect.


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By retrospooty on 3/31/2014 6:40:16 PM , Rating: 2
You are having an entirely different conversation all on your own aren't you. Tell you I say "Hi" when you see you. ;)


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/31/2014 6:58:29 PM , Rating: 2
You tried to say that smartphone and tablet apps are the same given a big enough smartphone screen. They aren't since the iPad version that many Android users want is totally different from both old phone versions. Office on iPad is the big story here so its totally relevant to the discussion.

Why deny a BS argument if you're wrong? You're an old guy, I assume you've learned to say that you're wrong at some point. Does it hurt that much to say that your precious isn't perfect? Act your age instead of like a fanboy on NeoGAF.


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By retrospooty on 3/31/2014 9:31:26 PM , Rating: 2
??? What is with you? Get off your soapbox and stop trying to derail threads into your Apple = better always arguments.

I was ribbing Tony about his "market share is meaningless" argument, (because it isn't meaningless when it suits his needs). I was calling Tony on his obvious double standard, that was all, and you got on your soapbox about it.

Later, I was calling Tony on his comment that there is no MS office for "Android" (go look), I said yes, its been out for a while. You again try to derail that conversation into an IOS vs Android tablet app rant.

"You tried to say that smartphone and tablet apps are the same given a big enough smartphone screen."

No, that is NOT what I said. I said what I said, you can go look at it again and get off your soapbox when you read it this time.... I was saying that the difference of a 4 inch phone to a 10 inch tablet isnt as big as the difference between a 5+ inch phone to a 7 inch tablet, which is where the bulk of Androids sales are in both categories. It wasn't even a main part of the conversation, you ignored the meat of the post, picked one tiny point that co-insides with your soapbox and of course you got back up on your soapbox about it.

That is what I meant by a whole conversation by yourself. You are taking wrong meanings, not understanding the years and years of history here and driving off with the thread.

Like most IT pros, I fully recommend iPad's myself to our users. For phones, its "choose whatever you want that doesn't require BES to get email" LOL- (but i'm not kidding, that is literally our policy). On recommending tablets, like most IT pro's it has nothing to do with "tablet optimized apps". Its about a single platform with a consistent behavior. At work, its hard to support the different Android devices, sizes and versions, especially since up until 2 years ago, they all sucked badly. The iPad has a consistent model, and has a huge head start. Nothing but issues with the early Galaxy tabs, they were simply awful and didn't get good until literally the Note 2014 released late last year.

Seriously, chill, you are having arguments all alone in your head. It's all good.


By KoolAidMan1 on 4/1/2014 3:49:37 PM , Rating: 1
I didn't know you were having a childish argument with a stranger. When I hear people say that there is no difference between phone and tablet apps given a big enough phone screen then I should know better than to think they're really being serious.

I'll pay better attention to who you troll


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By domboy on 3/31/2014 4:18:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I guess the whole 'iPad is just for consumption PCs are for real rough tough productive men' drivel is looking pretty tired now.


The funny thing to me is, probably about half the people I've seen using an iPad to take notes at conferences and such have bought real keyboards for them...


By retrospooty on 3/31/2014 6:45:19 PM , Rating: 2
Even at that, they aren't replacing PC's in any way as Tony wants to imagine. They are being used while mobile... People still go back to the office and get on their full Windows PC's and get their work done. Its not a "PC or a tablet" it's a "PC and a tablet"


By Argon18 on 3/31/2014 4:30:51 PM , Rating: 2
"It is nice that Apple is helping to make Microsoft relevant again, they need all the help they can get"

Apple helping Microsoft stay relevant? Microsoft does indeed need all the help it can get, as it slowly slips into irrelevancy.

Mac? Or PC? Or Linux? Who cares, everything is via web browser. Remember when people used to *buy* their web browser? Netscape Navigator for $39.95. Seems silly today, paying to buy a web browser for your PC. Soon the operating system will be the same. The idea of paying $100 for a Microsoft OS will be laughable.

As for Office on the iPad, I don't see how this helps Microsoft at all. Now there's zero compelling reason to choose a Microsoft tablet over an iPad. But then again, we all know Microsoft Tablets were slated for the failed product rubbish bin of yesteryear anyhow.


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/27/2014 9:13:43 PM , Rating: 2
That chart lacks context. Marketshare matters but so does the type of marketshare.

Productivity apps and games sell significantly better on iOS and run on a larger unified platform of high performance hardware, so that's where developers go first. It is more profitable, cheaper to develop for, running on a better foundation. A massive number of low end hardware being sold in China, India, and to low end users in the western world who don't buy/use apps are not the marketshare that matters to developers.

Here's a picture illustrating tablet deployment in enterprise: http://i.imgur.com/OYz2RYM.png

Its a chicken and the egg problem. Nobody is making productivity apps for Android tablets so there's no reason to get them. Mass deployment on a larger scale is another issue, one that most OEMs aren't as well equipped to deal with. Its the same reason why Windows is so dominant over Linux on the desktop, even though Linux is a capable and free platform.

This will all change when high end hardware running Android sells about 5x better rather than the niche that it currently is, that's what it would take to catch up with where iOS is right now. The thing is that number stopped growing last year while iOS continued to expand, but we'll see if the trend changes.


By robinthakur on 3/28/2014 7:36:26 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed, iPads, iPhones and Apple TV's with Airplay for wireless presentations have long been a fixture everywhere I've worked in the last few years, it's how people seem to prefer to present rather than being shackled to a keyboard and mouse. This will now be a perfect solution with an Official Office App and you won't be worried that your animations and transitions won't work properly in Keynote etc.

I can see this being used for minor edits, I'm still not sure you'd want to do any serious productivity hunched over an iPad (or a Surface for that matter) for any length of time. It also depends on the organisation having signed up to Office 365, which most have not done yet. For what its worth I use Office 365, and I like it, but find I have to use Office less and less these days mainly because people have found other solutions in the several years while Office has not been available on the iPad.


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By atechfan on 3/28/2014 3:38:48 PM , Rating: 1
Market share is only part of the equation. Sure, Android may have tons of marketshare, but who cares when it is mostly low end crap. Android user don't buy apps, so that app store is becoming irrelevant. Android has by far the largest userbase, and a huge app catalog, yet the revenues from the Android app store makes less than 1/6th what the Apple store does, and makes barely more than what the Windows Phone App store does with 1/10th the number of phones out there.

Android users are either pirates, which explains why nearly all the smartphone malware is on Android, or just use free crap Apps, or have phones too weak to run anything. The per download revenue for iOS is 24 cents, for Windows Phone is 23 cents, and for Android is 0.4 cents. If that continues, expect the Android app market to dry up as devs abandon it.


By ET on 3/31/2014 7:55:13 AM , Rating: 2
Can you link to where you figures come from. They sound to me like 3 year old figures. Android has made quite a big leap in profitability. See for example this: http://www.businessinsider.com/android-apps-are-no...


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By corduroygt on 3/27/2014 4:14:34 PM , Rating: 2
There are other ways to be "productive" without using office, such as the music sector, healthcare sector, automotive sector. iPad does this very well.


By NellyFromMA on 3/28/2014 11:45:27 AM , Rating: 2
You're not listing our ways to be productive, just market sectors...? Healthcare sector doesn't really compare to Office software... in fact, I bet the Healthcare sector leverages Office quite a bit...


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By Solandri on 3/27/2014 8:56:03 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Trying to be productive on an iDevice is a joke.

Step back for a minute and stop thinking of these devices as a desktop, laptop, tablet, phone, or smartwatch. Think of them as a computer.

If you've opened up a modern laptop, there's really not much inside. The motherboard only takes up about a quarter of the interior. The mSATA drive is smaller than a business card. The main constraint on laptop size is actually the keyboard and display. This is why the wedge form factor has become possible in recent years - all the important internal parts fit in just the rear half of the laptop.

Computers are just going to continue to become smaller. The Raspberry Pi is many times more powerful than my first desktop. If you actually wanted to use it as a desktop, all you have to do is attach a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to it. So while trying to be productive on just a tablet or phone is silly, if you add a keyboard and maybe a mouse and monitor, it becomes a desktop computer replacement.

That's what's really going on here - Microsoft's/Intel's worst nightmare. The "personal computer" is moving away from the Wintel platform towards smaller form factors. Microsoft tried to stave it off by refusing to offer Office for iOS and Android. It was a calculated risk - if they won they'd be able to maintain their OS dominance by transitioning Windows onto smaller form factors (Win RT, Windows Phone). If they lost, they'd lose not just their Windows dominance, but also their Office dominance.

This move is Microsoft conceding that they may very well lose their Windows dominance. They're hedging their bets to make sure to maintain their Office dominance.


RE: So More People Can Pretend to Do "Work"
By w8gaming on 3/27/2014 11:09:45 PM , Rating: 2
I can only believe productivity computing device can really be replaced using tablets when the processing power of ARM can match up to desktop computing power. As of now, the gap is still very wide. And when it comes to productivity, time saved is more important than style. Or the users would risk losing their jobs.


By KoolAidMan1 on 3/28/2014 10:55:22 PM , Rating: 2
It doesn't take much horsepower to run those kinds of applications. You can do light video, audio, and image editing on an iPad. Graphics are on par with games from a few years ago. A spreadsheet or document doesn't require that much power. The biggest obstacle is physical interface, and a Bluetooth keyboard addresses that. Display size is another issue, but like most productivity apps I see this as a way to do remote work or editing where a laptop would be unwieldy or impractical. It is one more tool, and a feasible one given that you can seamlessly pick up work between desktop and mobile device.


By Zak on 3/28/2014 9:52:12 AM , Rating: 2
I know entire hospitals and research facilities who use iPads for productivity. I guess you must know something they don't. I can put you in touch with their IT departments so you can enlighten them before it's too late.


Hostageware
By Shadowself on 3/27/14, Rating: 0
RE: Hostageware
By themaster08 on 3/27/2014 3:43:18 PM , Rating: 2
The documents are stored in OneDrive. OneDrive is a free service (unless you pay for additional storage or have a OneDrive for Business account).

You can simply access your files via OneDrive using another device or app. Nothing is being held "hostage".

How about try these things and learn how they work instead of spreading the fud which the uninformed tend to believe.


RE: Hostageware
By Shadowself on 3/27/14, Rating: 0
RE: Hostageware
By themaster08 on 3/27/2014 5:41:27 PM , Rating: 2
Your statement is worthless as you can still purchase Office 2013, a non-subscription based Office package, which provides full interoperability between Office 365 and Office 2013 documents.


RE: Hostageware
By themaster08 on 3/27/2014 5:43:50 PM , Rating: 2
I think I need to make myself clear. I am referring to Office 365 as the locally installed version of Office 365. Not the Office Web Apps.


RE: Hostageware
By Crucial on 3/27/2014 3:45:08 PM , Rating: 2
Am I missing something here?

Save your data: After you cancel your subscription, all the data associated with your online services—for example, email and any documents on Team sites—is deleted 90 days after cancellation. If you need any data from any of the Office 365 services, download and save your files to another location before you cancel the subscription


RE: Hostageware
By SpartanJet on 3/27/2014 3:54:47 PM , Rating: 2
Wow so much FUD. Hopefully google isn't paying you much for your shilling.


RE: Hostageware
By ritualm on 3/27/2014 3:56:52 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone with a working brain cell sees your post as "much ado about nothing".


crippled software
By Argon18 on 3/27/14, Rating: -1
RE: crippled software
By themaster08 on 3/27/2014 3:50:42 PM , Rating: 2
An extremely informed analysis. Thank you for your contribution.


RE: crippled software
By inighthawki on 3/27/2014 4:38:19 PM , Rating: 3
I wish in times like these that enough people can collectively vote down a post to below a -1, just to really emphasize what a worthless post it is.


RE: crippled software
By ritualm on 3/27/2014 5:49:17 PM , Rating: 2
Someone failed at reading sarcasm.


RE: crippled software
By themaster08 on 3/27/2014 5:52:19 PM , Rating: 2
I never understood why some people find it so hard to distinguish between a genuine and sarcastic post.

At least someone got it.


RE: crippled software
By FITCamaro on 3/27/2014 5:59:02 PM , Rating: 3
Actually I believe it is you who failed. He was agreeing with the above post and saying he wishes the OP could be down voted even further.


RE: crippled software
By inighthawki on 3/27/2014 10:55:35 PM , Rating: 2
Bingo :)

To quote themaster08, but in a correct context:
"At least someone got it."


RE: crippled software
By ritualm on 3/27/2014 3:54:48 PM , Rating: 4
Crippled is when a Word-compatible document (ends in .doc) created in OpenOffice under one OS cannot be read by the same program under a different OS.


RE: crippled software
By captainBOB on 3/29/2014 11:35:45 PM , Rating: 2
That is why we moved on to .docx....

7 years ago.


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