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New device will be available on T-Mobile, AT&T, and Verizon

It's well noted that two key niches are today driving ongoing smartphone growth -- budget handsets and large screen (phablet) handsets.  Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) Lumia line continues to turn up the heat on Google Inc.'s (GOOG) Android alliance in both categories.  It's rumored to be preparing a nice upgraded to one of its first phablet -- the Lumia 1520 -- which launched in late Oct. 2013.
 
The Lumia 1520 featured a relatively strong hardware spec including a 6-inch 1080p (1920x1080 pixel) display, a 2.26 GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800 chip from Qualcomm Inc. (QCOM), 2 GB of DRAM, a 20 megapixel PureView camera (with optical image stabilization), and a generous 3400 mAh battery.
 
The Lumia 1525 -- a rumored upgrade -- will feature the newer Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 chip (either 2.36 GHz or 2.45 GHz), according to top Android leaker @evleaks.  Its unclear if other upgrades will also be onboard.
Many of the premium Android devices have switched to quad-HD (2560x1440 pixel) displays.  Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd.'s (KRX:005930) (KRX:005935) upcoming Galaxy Note 4 will feature a QHD display.  Samsung has not officially announced the device (the QHD was confirmed via a post to its website), but it's probable that it will launch in September, the company’s usual Galaxy Note refresh window.
 
Even if the Lumia 1525 doesn't pack a QHD display, it's probable that it will feature slightly faster DRAM (the Snapdragon 800 used by the Lumia 1520 featured up to 800 MHz DRAM; the Snapdragon 801 supports 933 MHz DRAM).  The device will feature Windows Phone 8.1, as you would expect.


The biggest news though is that the Lumia 1525 is expected to be no longer an AT&T Inc. (T) exclusive.  While AT&T is expected to receive the new model, T-Mobile U.S., Inc. (TMUS) and Verizon Communications Inc. (VZ) (Verizon Wireless) are expected to carry the device as well.  Sprint Corp. (S) -- who remains focused primarily on the iPhone and older Android devices -- is expected to be the only U.S. carrier not to offer its customers access to the device.
Qualcomm SoC
The  phablet will get a new Snapdragon 801 SoC from Qualcomm.

The Lumia 1320 -- the lower end companion to the Lumia 1520 -- has also sold well.  Most recently it came to contract-free budget carrier Cricket Wireless (a subsidiary of AT&T) for $229 USD off contract.
 
The Lumia 1320 currently features a relatively aged dual-core 1.7 GHz Snapdragon S4 processor.  If we had to guess, we would predict it might receive a Lumia 200 or Lumia 410 processor in the near future as the Lumia 1325.

Source: @evleaks on Twitter



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I love my 1520
By cknobman on 7/7/2014 1:56:28 PM , Rating: 3
I absolutely love my Lumia 1520 and not regretted leaving Android for one minute.

Phone has a huge and beautiful display, lightning fast, and the 20mp camera takes great pictures.

Despite its large size I dont find it too big and it fits in all of my pockets.

The best part about the phone is the phenomenal battery life. I have never once successfully drained the battery. The lowest I have ever gotten the battery is 38% and that was after a lot of gamin.
The usual day for me takes the phone off charger at 7am and puts it back on at 11pm with around 58% of the battery left.

I put 8.1 on my phone a while back (developer preview) and it shores up most if not all of the shortcomings Windows phone had.




RE: I love my 1520
By CyCl0n3 on 7/7/2014 2:20:25 PM , Rating: 2
Absolutely true! It was the best decision to switch to WP. And WP 8.1 solved all what i was missing. The Pics what theese Lumias take are phenomenal and the devices look beautiful.


RE: I love my 1520
By dgingerich on 7/7/2014 3:26:15 PM , Rating: 2
I have a 925, and that thing won't fit properly in any of my pockets. It is decidedly uncomfortable to have in my pocket when sitting down. I feel like I'm going to break it. Even at the very bottom of my pockets, it pokes me in the hip when sitting. I have to keep it in a holster, and it's screen is only 4.5". You must have huge pockets or be about 6'6" tall.

I do love moving over to Windows Phone, though. I do understand that point.


RE: I love my 1520
By retrospooty on 7/7/2014 4:20:06 PM , Rating: 2
Dood, your pants are too tight. Most people with Note 2 and 3's fit them fine in their pockets and they are way bigger than a 925


RE: I love my 1520
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/7/2014 6:20:33 PM , Rating: 2
Sometimes I have wonder about these people who claim their phones can't fit into their pockets. My G2 fits in my pockets just fine.


RE: I love my 1520
By OoklaTheMok on 7/8/2014 1:18:46 AM , Rating: 2
Must be wearing emo pants? /s


RE: I love my 1520
By stoogenadoot on 7/8/2014 4:36:41 PM , Rating: 2
Some people must just pour themselves into their jeans like a big haired 80's high school girl.

Whatever guys, if your tight pants take priority over your smartphone then you probably already have an iPhone. heh


RE: I love my 1520
By Reclaimer77 on 7/7/2014 6:25:43 PM , Rating: 2
Wtf kind of clothes do you wear that a 4.5" phone is THAT uncomfortable to you?

Seriously when some of you people talk about phones, it's like you're from another planet or something. Seriously I just cannot relate.

quote:
Even at the very bottom of my pockets, it pokes me in the hip when sitting.


What the...are you trying to cram your phone into the little pocket made for spare change? I've never owned a pair of pants or shorts in my LIFE where the bottom of the pocket is lined up with my hips. Hip!!?? Don't you mean thigh?


RE: I love my 1520
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/7/14, Rating: 0
RE: I love my 1520
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 9:08:33 AM , Rating: 4
Uhhh wouldn't my pockets be TIGHTER if I was a "fatty"? You make no sense. I'm VERY comfortable in my clothing.

To claim you need a belt holster because you can't fit a 4.5" phone in your pocket is absurd.

And aren't you the guy who has a Galaxy S4 yet claims the iPhone is king? Yeah...stfu. You are no stranger to larger phones.


RE: I love my 1520
By stoogenadoot on 7/8/2014 4:32:55 PM , Rating: 2
They make all sorts of pants in all sorts of sizes. If you cant fit a 4.5- 5.5 inch phone comfortably in your pocket, then your pants are too tight period. No matter how chubby you are.


RE: I love my 1520
By Gungel on 7/7/2014 5:06:36 PM , Rating: 2
Couldn't agree more. I have the 1520.3 that includes QI wireless charging and absolutely love that phone. But the availability of local apps and specialty apps is still a big problem.


Nice...
By retrospooty on 7/7/2014 11:34:04 AM , Rating: 3
I have to say, I am having 2nd thoughts about the LG G3. This 1525 is now on my short list. I would really liek it a bit smaller though. The only SP phones I see are 5 inches and 6 inches, but nothing in the middle (unless I am missing something). That aside, I really wish there was a try it before you buy it program. I would really love to use WP for at least a few weeks. 5-10 mins in the store using the floor model just isnt enough.




RE: Nice...
By Labotomizer on 7/7/2014 11:54:11 AM , Rating: 2
Usually you can return a device for two weeks with a $35 restocking fee. That's fairly reasonable.

Although I think T-Mobile is going to start offering 30 days without according to rumors I've read other places. But who knows.


RE: Nice...
By retrospooty on 7/7/2014 1:17:56 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I saw that about T-MO. I am on a company Verizon account, so options are limited. Anyhow, looks like a nice phone.


RE: Nice...
By Reclaimer77 on 7/7/14, Rating: 0
RE: Nice...
By themaster08 on 7/8/2014 2:03:30 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
A 6" phablet flagship that's not QHD
We don't know if this device is or isn't going to be QHD, even the article states this.

quote:
Why not go with the 805 in a brand new phone?

Why does it need to be the absolute latest, especially if valuable time has been spent optimising the device for the 801 SOC? What are you planning to do with this device that will fully utilise the 805?

quote:
No stylus which is standard for a phablet
No it isn't. The LG G3 doesn't have a stylus. The Samsung Galaxy Mega doesn't have a stylus, just to name a couple. Besides, stock Android has been heavily modified by Samsung in order to include stylus support. You know that Windows Phone does not allow for such heavy UI modifications.

quote:
Meh, the Note 4 is going to sh*t all over this phone. And the LG G3 already does.
Really? That's purely the opinion of an Android zealot, that provides no real objective opinion which will benefit the OP's buying decision. The OP clearly doesn't think that the G3 "sh*ts" all over Nokia's 150X range, hence the reason he is considering it.

quote:
This is just like every other Nokia, but bigger. They keep making the same phone over and over again.
No. They make a variety of phones to compete at different price points. They have phones with interchangeable covers, removable batteries and SD cards, wireless charging capabilities, devices with the best cameras on the market, just to name some differences between their devices.

Whilst Windows Phone doesn't offer the versatility of Android, it does offer a very consistent UX, a wide range of devices, and something that is actually a welcome change from iOS and Android.


RE: Nice...
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 9:28:18 AM , Rating: 2
The G3 isn't a phablet. And the only phablet that's ever sold en mass has been the Note line. Hence, for phones actually being used in the wild, a stylus IS the de-facto standard for "phablets". Sorry.

quote:
Why does it need to be the absolute latest, especially if valuable time has been spent optimising the device for the 801 SOC? What are you planning to do with this device that will fully utilise the 805?


See this is why Nokia and Windows Phone have been going nowhere. You people just don't get it.

Do we always need the latest and greatest? Nope. That's not the point. If the competition DOES deliver that, you need to have a viable alternative. You need to be able to say, hey, we have all the goodies too, check us out.

I don't understand why you guys fail at marketing so badly. Look, Windows Phone might have the greatest experience out there. But if you don't GET THE PHONES in peoples hands, it's not going to matter.

Everyone on here says the Galaxy S4 was a horrible phone. Laggy, Touchwiz problems, poor "build quality". It's all over the Internet.

So how do you explain how it sold like ~45 million units?

For the price this is just a very underwhelming phone. It's TOO iterative. Nokia should be going for the brass ring and they're not.

quote:
Really? That's purely the opinion of an Android zealot


That's funny. I dare you to back that up. It's an objective fact that the Note 4 will blow this phone away, and sell FAR more units. Why? Because it's a better phablet.

quote:
No. They make a variety of phones to compete at different price points.


Variety? I don't see it. You cannot have a truly viable ecosystem from a single vendor. Where are the metal Windows Phones? What about stereo speakers? Hardware keyboards?

You listed removable batteries? There's like one model that supports that, the 820. And it's apparently a pain to pry the back cover off to do so, not as convenient as Samsung models.

quote:
Whilst Windows Phone doesn't offer the versatility of Android, it does offer a very consistent UX, a wide range of devices, and something that is actually a welcome change from iOS and Android.


That's great, but doesn't make this phone any less of a dud.

Not impressed.


RE: Nice...
By scbundy on 7/8/2014 10:29:05 AM , Rating: 2
I'm a big WP proponent. But I'm with reclaimer on this one. Yes, WP works just fine on an 801 and looks just dandy at 1080. But its not enough to push out a new device that's merely another iterative update. They need to show everyone that they can lead here, not follow. They need something in the hardware that's gonna make people say wow. Like that waterproof phone, that one with the speakers in the front or the one with the fingerprint scanner.

But this is just another windows phone, its nearly the same as the one that came before it. Only is using slightly better tech. Yay...

Wow us, Microsoft. You're sitting at a small single digit market share, you can't afford to play it safe. You need to take a moon shot


RE: Nice...
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 11:15:19 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly.

Microsoft stated that they want to displace Apple and move Windows Phone into the number 2 spot by the end of 2015. That's a HUGE mountain to climb and not much time to do it.

I'm all for that. Hell I would LOVE for Microsoft to pass up Apple. But I just don't see how that's going to happen with a phone lineup that has no unique niche, no gimmicks, nothing to make them stand out. Just iterative update after iterative update to the same tired lineup.

Worse, even the new Lumia phones are ALREADY behind the tech curve!

Selling the experience is fine and the whole "one OS for everything" gameplan. But there lies the problem. How can people experience your ecosystem if you can't put the devices in their hands?

Of course there also is the very real possibility that Nokia just isn't able to "wow" us. They don't make their own components like Samsung, and they can't leverage the massive supply chain discounts like Apple. Maybe they're just doing the best they can.

But sadly, I don't think that's good enough.


RE: Nice...
By scbundy on 7/8/2014 2:46:32 PM , Rating: 2
Yup. I've criticized Apple for releasing iterative updates, but Microsoft has turned it into an art form. At least apple did the fingerprint thing, gimmick or not, at least it's something. And looks like they're going with sapphire glass this time. Which might be useful. But again, its something new in the smartphone apace. Android OEMs are always trying this and that and the other thing. And u can pick the device u think offered the most.

Windows Phone has the camera. That's really about it. And its a damn good camera, my wife has the 1020. It definitely wowed me. But they didn't follow it up. There's no 1030. Sony, Samsung and apple all have pretty good cameras now.

Microsoft is reacting, not setting the standard, and they're reacting too damn slow. If they really want to play in this market, they gotta go all in. Or its all just a waste of time and money.


RE: Nice...
By CyCl0n3 on 7/8/2014 9:11:14 AM , Rating: 2
Why the hell would you need a stylus with this phone??? Since the 920 all the mid-higher end Lumias have a super sensitivity Screen. You can use any pen and even pencils. If u want you can also use a friggin knife, pitchfork or chainsaw!


RE: Nice...
By stoogenadoot on 7/8/2014 4:25:47 PM , Rating: 2
A stylus with a Wacom (or similar) digitizer like the Samsung Note series far more detailed than any finger, or even using a stylus on a standard digitizer. It's all in the detail you need. On top of that there are apps that are designed around it.

I am not saying this phone needs it, but if you are looking for a phone or tablet with stylus support, its not the same as just getting a normal phone or tablet and using a stylus on it.


RE: Nice...
By CyCl0n3 on 7/8/2014 9:36:31 AM , Rating: 2
Why the hell would you need a stylus with this phone??? Since the 920 all the mid-higher end Lumias have a super sensitivity Screen. You can use any pen and even pencils. If u want you can also use a friggin knife, pitchfork or chainsaw!


Correction needed
By dgingerich on 7/7/2014 3:21:36 PM , Rating: 2
Near the end of the article, concerning the 1325:

quote:
If we had to guess, we would predict it might receive a Lumia 200 or Lumia 410 processor in the near future as the Lumia 1325.


I think what you meant was that it would get a Snapdragon 200 or 410.




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