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T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T to see a healthy flow of Nokia devices in 2014 and 2015

The first components of Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) Windows Phone 8.1 invasion have arrived courtesy of its Nokia Devices unit.  Verizon Communications Inc.'s (VZ) Verizon Wireless is offering up the Lumia 929 "Icon" (a version of the Lumia 930) for $99 USD with a two-year contract.  AT&T, Inc. (T) and T-Mobile USA, Inc. (TMUS) have both announced plans to target the budget range with the Lumia 635 (LTE).
 
According to leaker Evan Nelson Blass (@evleaks), Sprint Corp. (S) will also pick up the Lumia 635 later this year, possibly with updated firmware.  
 
The lowest end model of the upcoming Windows Phone 8.1 "Lumia X30" lineup -- the Lumia 530 "Rock" -- is expected for a June or July release and subsequent launch on T-Mobile USA and AT&T prepaid brand Cricket Wireless (which is also expected to get the Lumia 635).

Windows Phone 8.1 Blue

According to @evleaks, Q3 will bring the next substantial update to Windows Phone, dubbed Windows Phone Blue GDR1.  According to the leaker's sources, there is a pair of Windows Phone Blue GDR1 carrier-exclusive superphones in development -- "Tesla" for AT&T and "Superman" for Verizon.  We had previously heard about "Superman" from a report by The Verge.
 
The fall/holiday Nokia flagship phone will be a wider release, dubbed "McClaren".  It will be coming to T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T.
 
In Spring 2015, AT&T is expected to receive a pair of carrier exclusive smartphones -- "Makepeace" and "Dempsey".  Q3 2015 ("late summer / early fall") will bring a mass release flagship phone called "Talkman" and a flagship phablet called "Cityman".

Satya Nadella at BUILD
Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft, shows of a Lumia smartphone at Microsoft's annual BUILD conference in April. [Image Source: Reuters]

Mr. Blass writes:

It’s an exciting time for Nokia, to be sure — even though the name is gone, the spirit endures, and the future path is multi-pronged but well-defined.

That sounds pretty promising.

Source: @evleaks



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WinPhone 8.1
By kleinma on 6/5/2014 3:48:49 PM , Rating: 2
I have been running Windows Phone 8.1 on my Verizon Lumia 928 since they released the consumer preview, and it is really nice. The swype style keyboard, notification center, and some of the updated Nokia apps really bring it forward a lot. The cortana stuff I haven't really used much, but the few times I did, it seemed to work well as far as understanding what I was asking it for. Sadly I do still prefer Google Maps over the Here maps, and since there is little to no chance of ever seeing google maps on Windows Phone, I still use my other line (Galaxy S3) for most of my GPS needs.




RE: WinPhone 8.1
By Reclaimer77 on 6/5/14, Rating: -1
RE: WinPhone 8.1
By dice1111 on 6/5/2014 4:10:51 PM , Rating: 3
Too be honest, when other people are around, I just kinda feel stupid talking too my phone. That is, when it's not pressed to my ear with someone on the line... I do do it when alone, but mostly to finish texts and such.

Is it just me?


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By Flunk on 6/5/2014 4:16:17 PM , Rating: 1
Google now is totally operational without the voice, it displays text and you can type into it. If Cortana has that kind of features I don't think that would be an issue.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By nikon133 on 6/5/2014 4:45:53 PM , Rating: 2
You can type (instead of talk) to Cortana. I don't know if Cortana will answer in text or in voice, though.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By althaz on 6/6/2014 3:11:47 AM , Rating: 2
Cortana will answer however you ask. So if you ask in text, Cortana is completely silent.

It's quite useful to simply tap search and type "remind me to do X when I get home" :).


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By jeepga on 6/6/2014 3:27:31 PM , Rating: 2
I love the remind me option. It's not perfect on some stores though. Awhile back I said, "remind me to buy (insert item) when I'm at (store) next." Well I went to my local store which is not in a major metro area and it didn't do anything. However, I happened to be at a different one and bam, I get the reminder tone and there it is.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By Labotomizer on 6/5/2014 4:46:47 PM , Rating: 3
It can be used without voice. Tap search once it brings up text input. Hold search for a second and it brings up the voice input. Works equally well either way.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By Reclaimer77 on 6/5/2014 4:18:25 PM , Rating: 2
Well if you turn on the option to let it learn your voice, you can train it to recognize when you hold the phone close and speak in a very low volume. That way people just assume you're talking on it anyway.

I just kinda hate typing on virtual keyboards, so maybe it's me. Doing searches and commands on my personal assistant is faster and easier imo.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By koenshaku on 6/5/2014 4:22:02 PM , Rating: 2
No it isn't just you. I find it kind of ridiculous also except in very isolated scenarios. Like apps I don't pend to my home screen particularly flash light x when ever I use it I say "open flashlight x" or sometimes when I am in an awkward position to type and someone ask me if a place is open or some info about it I will say "find abc restaurant" or something like this. Otherwise I don't really bark things into my phone in public.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By nikon133 on 6/5/2014 4:52:49 PM , Rating: 3
I think we are creatures of habit, in general... and it is (yet) not our habit to talk do devices.

Idea of many individuals in one room, everyone talking to their phone instead of each other feels a bit like something from "Flight over cuckoo nest". I'm sure our kids will not understand how we could communicate with our smart devices (which will look very stupid to them) without voice interaction... but that's them. Speaking of which, their kids will probably mind-control their smart devices and find talking so old school. The endless circle of progress :)


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By wordsworm on 6/5/2014 5:02:17 PM , Rating: 2
To an extent I agree about us being creatures of habit. But the more they can let me use the device using voice or other means other than looking at the screen, the better. My Windows 7 phone was good for that if nothing else. I liked being able to take messages, send text messages, and do other telephone related tasks without having to look at the screen. Of the differences between Android and Windows, I found this to be the most compelling feature. The fact that I have to use Zune for the Windows phone, however, makes me hate it. Windows 8... do you have to use Zune for it, too?


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By CaedenV on 6/5/2014 5:07:59 PM , Rating: 2
Nope, Windows 8 does not need any other software or computers for updates or organization. If you want to mass-transfer stuff on or off the device then you plug it into your computer and use either the Windows Phone app... or better yet, just use the Windows Explorer file manager. But most of the time you will end up using cloud services for most file movement, 8.1 has access to a built in file manager, and things like updates are all OTA, so there is rarely a time that you NEED to plug it into anything at all. Very self-sufficient.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By TheSlamma on 6/7/2014 7:49:39 PM , Rating: 2
I love when some has Google glass on, from 15 feet away I can say "ok glass, take a picture!" and it does.

it seems like a great idea, but sound travels around and stuff.. weird huh.

so this crap isn't practical


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By arazok on 6/5/2014 5:32:32 PM , Rating: 2
Nope, me too. I love cortana, I use it mostly to enter stuff in my calander, but if there is anyone around, I type it. I feel like a dork talking to it.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By Reclaimer77 on 6/5/14, Rating: -1
RE: WinPhone 8.1
By AssBall on 6/5/2014 11:23:50 PM , Rating: 4
Maybe we just all really want to punch all of the dorks that talk to Siri and ask her dumb questions before they even look at you during an otherwise normal conversation. I wouldn't talk to my fackin' phone when I am with people either.

It is rather a show of respect (maybe that is becoming outdated, but its still how we feel), not insecurity as you suggest.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By Reclaimer77 on 6/6/2014 10:15:51 AM , Rating: 1
Why does respect and rudeness even enter into this? Where did I say you should be using your personal assistant in specific situations where it would be socially unacceptable to do so?

I don't know about you guys, but I'm not around other people 24/7. Most of the time I'm using Google Now, there's not a horde of people around me.

In fact I find it MOST useful while making my commute, for it's hands-free benefits and obvious safety over typing while driving.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By StevoLincolnite on 6/6/2014 5:50:28 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Nope, me too. I love cortana, I use it mostly to enter stuff in my calander, but if there is anyone around, I type it. I feel like a dork talking to it.


I have to admit, all I do with Cortana is ask her/it jokes.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By inighthawki on 6/5/2014 4:25:34 PM , Rating: 3
The big thing is people don't like talking to inanimate objects, it's naturally a very weird concept for humans. I assume that's the problem most people face.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By atechfan on 6/5/2014 4:41:29 PM , Rating: 2
I think it is mainly because Windows Phone is way more successful outside of the USA than inside, while Cortana is US only for now. Yes, I know you can work around that, but most people probably don't want to and are just waiting until coverage expands.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By CaedenV on 6/5/2014 5:03:25 PM , Rating: 2
Because most of it is not a new feature. Cortana is an iterative update to the features that already existed on the platform. If you wanted to do voice to text, or make a call, or listen to a message, all of that day-to-day stuff already worked fine. And the voice recognition before Cortana was already good, so while Cortana is better, it was sort of expected.

Also, there are a lot of parts of Cortana that look and feel like they are baked into the OS and you don't even realize you are using a separate service. Like when you get a text with a potential meeting it gets highlighted to be actionable. That is Cortana, but it feels much the same as and actionable address or phone numbers which already existed on the platform. Also things like quiet hours (by far the most underrated feature from 8.1) is technically part of Cortana, but you tend to set it up once and forget about it even though you are technically using it every day.

As for the more advanced stuff like reminders and appointments, it often works great, but is also often too many steps, and you still have to go back and type in other details. So I tend to just manually set those types of things anyways.

Then there is the whole 'talking to technology' issue. Unless I am in my car, there are very few times when it is appropriate to start shouting commands at my phone. And when I am in my car talking to my phone, it is often a last resort issue of trying to call or text someone without taking too much attention off the road when I am lost, or things are generally not going according to plan.

Lastly, like many WP features, this is not 'new' to the realm of smartphones. When Siri was new it got all sorts of headlines because it came first. When Google Now came it received dramatically less news, and while Cortana is arguably better than both, it is very much a "Me too" product. It is very useful... just not very exciting.

Besides, Cortana is an assistant, and assistants often go unnoticed. Granted with the voice of Jen Taylor, Cortana certainly stands out more than most.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By HardwareDufus on 6/5/2014 6:58:19 PM , Rating: 2
I live in Mexico. And my phone is set to use Spanish.

Therefore, no Cortana. Not yet anyway.

However, if I set my country to the United States and my language to English... Cortana works... and works well.

For the fun of it.. I was way out in the country side of the Sierra Madre Occidental.... and I asked Cortana to help me find a place to get a Coca Cola..... She directed me to a small Aborrote (corner store) in a little Ejido (a little tiny town) down a dirt road. Crazy. It worked.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By scbundy on 6/6/2014 12:54:02 AM , Rating: 2
Cortana works really well, I've used it a ton. My son is diabetic so we're always checking the carb count on whatever he's eating. Before, if the food wasn't labelled or we were at a restaurant, I'd have to find their website, hope that it has a nutritional guide, load the pdf, find the food he's eating, zoom waaaaaaaay in and get the number. Now I just say, "How many carbs are in a Big Mac?" and Cortana tells me. It's a lot, btw.

Part of the problem is that Cortana right now is US only, so you have to live there, or change your Region setting (which then disables the ability to buy apps from the store). The US marketshare of WP8 is teeny tiny. So there's just not that many people who have it, certainly not enough to be loud about it.

Besides we all know how the tech press works these days. Intel makes a full windows tablet that thinner than the iPad Air. Tech press doesn't give a crap b/c Apple announces iOS8 can now edit photos DIRECTLY from the photo album!!!! ZOMG!!!1


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By BillyBatson on 6/6/2014 2:06:46 AM , Rating: 1
I absolutely despite Siri and have it disabled. I find doing everything manually to be more efficient. I would rather go slower than deal with the frustration of it not understanding me especially multiple times. My friends don't seem to use their assistants either.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By Reclaimer77 on 6/6/14, Rating: 0
RE: WinPhone 8.1
By BillyBatson on 6/11/2014 12:36:04 PM , Rating: 2
Not sure why we got down rated for just stating our experience with our assistants. That's DT though.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By Gondor on 6/7/2014 5:09:58 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
But it's like, I'm in some weird minority of people and I just don't get it. Why are personal assistant's so underutilized?


Because (normal) people are uncomfortable sharing their agendas, personal information etc. with large analytical engines (them facebooks and other sociopathic-network users excluded for obvious reasons) which were built to collect this information and process it (at the very least) for the purposes of even more intrusive advertising.

Yes, it is true that Google (and Apple, and Microsoft ...) may be collecting your personal information in other apps (most of which you can disable or get rid of - I went with Apex launcher and got rid of Google Search, Google Now, that Hangouts crap which is completely useless anyway, their browser, GMail app etc., and I'm not using Google+ or any other similar service, plus the search engine of choice on my phone is DDG now and my Google Play account is just a new blank account that contains nothing more than the list of those 5 or 6 apps that I have downloaded) regardless, but willingly submitting information to them is like leaving your front door unlocked and telling everybody you meet where you live ... not an idea that most people woudl be comfortable with; YMMV.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By themaster08 on 6/5/2014 4:24:03 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Sadly I do still prefer Google Maps over the Here maps, and since there is little to no chance of ever seeing google maps on Windows Phone, I still use my other line (Galaxy S3) for most of my GPS needs.
I personally find the Here Drive to be superior to Google Maps Navigation.

Here Drive supports road speed limits, allows me to download offline maps of entire continents, and has better voice navigation. For example, Google Maps will read out the entire list of roads that are on a sign, which can sometimes take it 30 seconds, and is quite annoying. Here Maps simply reads out the street/motorway name.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By nikon133 on 6/5/2014 5:01:37 PM , Rating: 3
I'm missing street view on Here Maps (doesn't seem to have any for New Zealand) and satellite view image is much lower quality... but for navigation, I also prefer it to other solutions. I had great time comparing Here Drive with my friend's iPhone TomTom when we were in Tauranga. He was so certain his solution will turn out to be better... and it wasn't. And he had to pay for it. On a phone that was more than 2x more expensive than my phone.

And then I presented him my new Playstation 4 which I purchased with money I have (technically) saved by going for Nokia 920 instead of iPhone. And left him Angry with his Birds. Fun times.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By scbundy on 6/6/2014 1:01:55 AM , Rating: 2
Haha, so much win.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By HardwareDufus on 6/7/2014 3:57:43 PM , Rating: 2
They've just got to put a street level view of Baldwin Street in Dunedin!

(Steepest street in the world... rental car insurance policies are voided if you drive on it... I did... 2003... statute of limitations has run out... I can talk about it freely now.. LOL)

Beautiful country you live in.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By Labotomizer on 6/5/2014 4:47:41 PM , Rating: 2
gMaps Pro has all the Google navigation features and uses Google maps. I prefer Here but I keep that handy just in case.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By stimudent on 6/6/2014 8:52:22 AM , Rating: 2
What's a Windows phone. I don't think I've ever seen one.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By datdamonfoo on 6/6/2014 10:17:02 AM , Rating: 2
They're these awesome new phones that Microsoft makes the software for. They have Xbox games, a slick UI, and are very stable. Some of the phones feature the very best cameras on a smartphone. And coming in a few months, they will be getting a digital assistant and a whole host of new features. You can check it out at Windowsphone.com.


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By jeepga on 6/6/2014 3:29:08 PM , Rating: 2
FYI - It's called WordFlow if you were curious. I find it much easier to use than Swype. YMMV


RE: WinPhone 8.1
By p05esto on 6/9/2014 10:22:39 AM , Rating: 2
Really? I love the HERE maps, perfect GPS and turn by turn for me.... maybe I don't know any better, but I don't have any complaints or issues with it. (on Lumina 928)


I just want whitelist
By Arbie on 6/6/2014 11:30:04 AM , Rating: 2
The single biggest thing I hope for in WP 8.1 is a "whitelist".

I have a "smart" phone. Why on earth can't it remember a dozen or so phone numbers and exclude all calls except from those? It's idiotic.

People argue here about arcane differences in complex services while a no-brainer feature like this is still AWOL in WP 8.0.

--> Just a simple whitelist, PLEASE.




RE: I just want whitelist
By djdjohnson on 6/6/2014 1:16:06 PM , Rating: 2
You could use the Quiet Hours feature to do this... just leave it on all of the time and only callers in your inner circle would be able to get through.


Naming
By name99 on 6/6/2014 2:26:29 PM , Rating: 2
"Windows Phone Blue GDR1"? Jesus fscking Christ.
MS may talk a whole lot about their new design ethos, but it apparently has made zero penetration up to the product naming level.

Compare that with iOS8 or Kit Kat --- both names that are catchy and immediately make sense. Call the damn thing WP8.2 --- far catchier, far clearer.




RE: Naming
By dashrendar on 6/6/2014 10:07:20 PM , Rating: 2
I'm sorry, but the name of the OS, followed by a color, followed by half of a license plate number is far catchier than a popular chocolate-covered wafer biscuit bar.


"Makepeace" and "Dempsey"
By ahar on 6/5/2014 6:20:40 PM , Rating: 2
Someone in the codename department was watching UK crime drama in the mid-eighties.




locked phone while driving
By ptmmac on 6/5/2014 6:43:22 PM , Rating: 2
I use this to call people with a locked phone while driving on my iPhone. Call ... home or work and I get the phone number dialed and don't have to look away from the road.

In the car, especially alone is where verbal phone commands work best. No background talking, and you need a few times to learn how best to phrase questions so they give useful answers.

My business partner is quite adept at mimicking the siri voice and it seems to respond much better to his prompting. It is really humorous to listen to. It sounds like he is talking to a child, which is not a bad analogy for what is going on. Each generation gets more responsive, and as we use it more the system learns to fit better to our use of it.




What I'd like...
By damianrobertjones on 6/6/2014 5:20:59 AM , Rating: 2
The 1020 camera on and using the same hardware as the 1520.

Done




Windows Phone 9
By ToxicTaZ on 6/7/2014 1:36:49 AM , Rating: 2
Windows Phone 9 is 64-bit (ARMv8) using the Snapdragon 810 processor!

There is a google maps app for Windows Phone called gMAPS ...try it.




More M$ Propaganda
By drlumen on 6/6/14, Rating: -1
RE: More M$ Propaganda
By scbundy on 6/6/2014 1:04:41 AM , Rating: 2
I think we can probably stop the M$ cliche. Both Google and Apple technically have a larger market valuation and they're both also have a vastly larger market share in the mobile space. Apple itself is sitting on damn near 200 billion dollars in cash and doesn't seem to be doing anything other than Scrooge McDuck diving in it. And Lord knows what Google is doing with every ounce of information they mine from us. M$ died with Windows ME and the Justice department anti-trust suit and Bill leaving.


RE: More M$ Propaganda
By StevoLincolnite on 6/6/2014 5:54:13 AM , Rating: 4
Microsoft hasn't died, it's still around, it's still breaking it's own profit records.

The difference between then and now is other large companies have sprung up that simply take all the limelight.

Microsoft as a company won't be going anywhere, anytime soon, it still rakes in the Billions, even if that's not what you would like to hear, facts are facts.


RE: More M$ Propaganda
By datdamonfoo on 6/6/2014 10:13:55 AM , Rating: 2
I'm pretty sure that since his entire comment was about the term M$ with the dollar sign in it, that he was saying that the TERM died, not the company.


RE: More M$ Propaganda
By scbundy on 6/6/2014 10:42:01 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I meant that this term came from the 90s when MS look poised to take over the world and ran a business as ruthless as they come. But today there are bigger tech companys, and in my opinion some of them are even more dubious on the evilometer. The term feels dated.


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