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The demand for portability is driving global notebook sales growth

The analyst group IDC predicts that laptops will overtake desktop PCs as the dominant form of computers by 2011.  As laptops become faster and more cost efficient, demand for desktop PCs is likely to grow at a declining rate.  The report also found that the role of emerging markets is also growing at a nice rate, with 50 percent of desktop PC shipments in 2006 heading to markets that aren't as mature as Japan and the United States.

"While desktop volume will grow by low single-digit rates throughout the forecast with a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 3.8 percent from 2006 to 2011, Portable PC shipments will maintain a CAGR of 16.1 percent over the same period," IDC claimed on its web site.

The report claims that more than 82 million notebooks and nearly 140 million desktops were shipped globally in 2006.  However, the number of laptops shipped around the world rose a dramatic 26% compared to just a 2% increase for desktops.    

The recent release of Microsoft Vista will help temporarily boost the sales numbers of desktop PCs later this year and early next year, but the declining trend will reappear after the short-term boost.

Along with the higher power and lower cost of laptops, more companies are having employees utilize the portability of laptops with wireless Internet capabilities.

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Really???
By cheetah2k on 3/22/2007 5:47:42 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The recent release of Microsoft Vista will help temporarily boost the sales numbers of desktop PCs later this year and early next year, but the declining trend will reappear after the short-term boost.


I dunno where the IDC got its BS data.. The way i see it, Vista would be the cause of a mass revolution move to Linux or Mac?

It certainly didnt help Dell sell more PCs




RE: Really???
By danskmacabre on 3/22/2007 6:22:57 AM , Rating: 2
I have been playing about with various distros of Linux over the last few years.

As from December last year, I have converted one of my PCs to Ubuntu Linux, which is great.

My laptop is Windows XP, which I use for games and it runs fine.

When the time comes to get a new gaming PC, I'm probably going to build a desktop from scratch and try to get a copy of XP, I assume it's still possible to buy it?


RE: Really???
By just4U on 3/22/2007 6:30:34 AM , Rating: 2
yep you can still buy winxp.


RE: Really???
By Lazarus Dark on 3/22/2007 6:41:28 AM , Rating: 2
not certain, but I think I saw on Microsofts site that xp would be available for sale until one year from vista's release or January 2008. This is mostly a concession to all the buisinesses that just switched to xp and are not going to switch again for a couple of years so they want copies available for their newest pc's, otherwise MS would love to pull xp and have everyone purchase the higher cost vista.


RE: Really???
By semo on 3/23/2007 9:14:28 AM , Rating: 2
i think 2008 is when ms will stop support for media center edition.

i'm not sure how will backwards compatibility work with dx10 games on xp


RE: Really???
By crystal clear on 3/22/2007 7:04:43 AM , Rating: 2
"If they're going to pirate somebody, we want it to be us rather than somebody else." -- Microsoft Business Group President Jeff Raikes

JUST JOKING-ITS YOUR DECISION.


RE: Really???
By crystal clear on 3/22/07, Rating: 0
RE: Really???
By SquidianLoveGod on 3/22/2007 9:07:00 AM , Rating: 2
And you almost have to sell your body parts or your better half to get the machine, I still cannot get over the $999 Price tag here in Australia. (some times for 949 bucks, But if your handing over that kind of money 50 bucks is small change).
Also, Because it has Linux on the PS3 does that mean its possible to emulate Windows Games? If thats a yes, I might pick one up if they drop below $400 (The Price of the Wii currently here in Aus) - If it can play StarCraft: Broodwar I'm sold! Otherwise I'll stick to my Acer Aspire 1680 Laptop :) It can play oblivion at least on the Mobility 9700 pro!

"PS3 + LINUX + INTERNET + KEYBOARD/MOUSE (gaming) + HDTV ="
- I don't know about you, But just because its a PS3 doesnt make it a selling point, But the Linux thingo' intrigues me. And the internet on consoles has been around since the dreamcast! (Had a 33.6k dial-up modem which I think they upgraded it to 56k). The Xbox 360 could connect to an ADSL router... And I know you can pick up hardware bits and pieces for the PS2 for the 'net. And the Gamecube might have had internet access.... Not sure.
And If I was to get a PS3, Means I have to somehow be able to connect the console to my laptop, As I don't have a T.V, I don't really want one either, all movies are watched on my laptop, And the only T.V show I watch is StarGate and I just buy the box-sets when they come available.


RE: Really???
By crystal clear on 3/22/2007 9:49:02 AM , Rating: 2
PS3 as of U.S. prices(thats what I know)-as for my comment-I just quoted what I did.


RE: Really???
By cheetah2k on 3/22/2007 9:28:12 PM , Rating: 2
SquidianLoveGod,

Man, i know how you feel. I'm really worried about how much my tech fettish is going to hurt me when i have to relocate back to Oz in a few years time.

I'm currently living and working in Hong Kong, and the PS3 is selling for about HK$4800. let me know if you want me to EMS post you one from here! Postage on top would be about HK$750, and EMS delivers within 2-3 days, insured express post.

I've sent many a Dell laptop from here to friends in Australia without issues, and saving them bundles of mulah, even after postage costs.


RE: Really???
By sprockkets on 3/22/2007 11:20:11 PM , Rating: 2
If you use cedaga or whatever it is called, starcraft on linux works fine, well, except for some fonts. It runs best though on lovely win98 hahahaha


RE: Really???
By Ralph The Magician on 3/22/2007 7:31:31 AM , Rating: 3
You actually think Linux will impact the home/office desktop PC industry? Ubuntu has a LONG way to go before that ever happens. Maybe when Ubuntu 10.0 comes out and it's pre-installed by Dell with a set of standardized and supported hardware (all the way down to a keyboard with a "Ubuntu key") will it stand a chance of actually challenging Microsoft.

Apple can stand up in the home, but not in the office. It's just too "expensive" in that it comes with stuff that isn't needed, which is included anyway, and adds to the price. Apple needs a business Mac that comes without an Apple Remote, iSight, and iLife. They need a a better hardware support system for business customers, and a fullly functional pre-loaded office suite. They either need a better version of iWork with a spreadsheet app, an Aqua version of OpenOffice, or Microsoft Office pre-installed (which isn't going to happen). Only when these kinds of things become realized will Apple have a chance at taking on the office.

Microsoft is still top dog, and the release of a new OS will bost PC sales. Maybe not as much as 98 to XP, but still a signifigant impact.


RE: Really???
By iNGEN on 3/22/2007 1:50:09 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
You actually think Linux will impact the home/office desktop PC industry? Ubuntu has a LONG way to go before that ever happens. Maybe when Ubuntu 10.0 comes out and it's pre-installed by Dell with a set of standardized and supported hardware (all the way down to a keyboard with a "Ubuntu key") will it stand a chance of actually challenging Microsoft.


Give it up, Ralph. If he hasn't figured that out by now he's not going to.


RE: Really???
By acer905 on 3/22/2007 2:31:35 PM , Rating: 2
Here is something to ponder. What if apple, i don't know... allows their os to be installed onto somethin other than a mac. I admit, i don't know much about macs, but it seems to me that if windows can be loaded onto a mac, you should be able to load mac os onto a pc. so in my mind, give hp, dell, gateway, and others the ability to sell pc's loaded with mac os instead of windows, or along with it.


RE: Really???
By Ralph The Magician on 3/22/2007 4:24:13 PM , Rating: 2
A large part of the stability on the Mac platform has to do with a limited pool of hardware which they have to support. The problem is actually made evident by Linux. There are all sorts of wonky driver problems and unsupported hardware issues, some which vary from version to version of the SAME distro.

You open OS X up to the entire X86 platform, and suddenly ever wants their hardware supported and vendros are throwing out all sorts of proprietary drivers, and suddenly the somewhat "legendary" stability of the Mac OS is comprimised. Futhermore, now it's complicated. It's no longer a three or four click process to update the entire computer. Now you have to search all over for drivers.

For example, right now I believe there are only two different motherboard chipsets used in the ENTIRE Mac line. One for the Mac Mini, iMac, MacBook, and MacBook Pro and one for the Mac Pro and Xserve. If you look at even a limited selection of the Dell line-up there are probably a dozen different chipsets used, and they move around from month to month.


RE: Really???
By Ralph The Magician on 3/22/2007 4:25:20 PM , Rating: 2
Typos galore. Please forgive me. Haven't slept in many hours.


RE: Really???
By Snuffalufagus on 3/23/2007 3:41:12 PM , Rating: 3
I have friends who say that as well but they mostly seem to only be expressing the opinion of their group of linux using friends.

I think the Vista features MS implemented for laptops/mobility will make the combination very appealing once there is faster hadware available to support it, especially to business users.


Happy with a Laptop
By kelmon on 3/22/2007 6:24:20 AM , Rating: 2
I used to hate laptops because I considered them to be unreliable, slow and generally sub-standard when compared to a desktop. However, I've now been an exclusively mobile user now for the past 4 years since I moved to a house that didn't have enough space for a dedicated office and I've really enjoyed it. Laptops these days are much better than they were and are certainly a suitable replacement for a desktop. Unless I need maximum power (and, let's be fair to it, modern laptop processors are ridiculously fast compared to even desktop processors from a few years ago) then I can't see the need for a desktop.




RE: Happy with a Laptop
By just4U on 3/22/2007 6:29:49 AM , Rating: 3
what bothers me is the fact that you can't really upgrade them (properly I mean) Or ... effectively build them as you can a PC. Bare bone kits are somewhat overpriced and add to that the fact that upgrading the video can be problematic at the best of times.

That's my only real complaints with Laptops.


RE: Happy with a Laptop
By spartan014 on 3/22/2007 6:55:19 AM , Rating: 2
That will change with time.. Then only enthusiasts and gamers who prefer to build their own machines and professionals who require desktop workstations will be using desktops. All other's needs will be satisfied by a laptop easily..


RE: Happy with a Laptop
By crystal clear on 3/22/07, Rating: 0
RE: Happy with a Laptop
By Ralph The Magician on 3/22/2007 7:36:34 AM , Rating: 1
Plenty upgradable. Notebooks hold their value a lot better than desktops (especially Mac notebooks). When you are ready to upgrade, you zero the drive, re-install the OS, sell it and buy a new one.

Hell, you can sell a year old Mac notebook for 80% what you paid for it.


INTERNET STARTED IT ALL
By crystal clear on 3/22/2007 6:54:23 AM , Rating: 1
Quote-

"The demand for portability is driving global notebook sales growth"

YES INDEED - But what spurs demand for portability?

The INTERNET ofcourse-without the Internet there is no need for portability.

The rapid spread in the use of the internet spurred the demand for PORTABILITY.

Quote-

"The recent release of Microsoft Vista will help temporarily boost the sales numbers of desktop PCs later this year and early next year, but the declining trend will reappear after the short-term boost."

Unquote-

Plain Guessing & BAD ANALYSIS- read this

"Intel waiting for key update before going Vista"

If it's not good enough for Intel, is it good enough for you? We're talking Microsoft's Windows Vista, which the chip giant's CEO, Paul Otellini, this week indicated has not won the backing of his technology experts.

"I know of no organisation doing an upgrade before [Service Pack 1]," Paul Otellini told attendees of the Bank of America Technology Conference held in San Francisco this week, according to a ZDnet blog. "Intel isn't upgrading either."

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/03/07/intel_wati...

Q&A: Intel CEO Paul Otellini

03/19/2007 8:36 PM EDT)

Intel President and CEO Paul Otellini discussed the chip giant's plans for the Verified By Intel (VBI) initiative, vPro, Centrino and other technologies and channel programs in an interview with CRN Senior Writer Paula Rooney at the Intel Solutions Summit in San Diego. Earlier, Otellini gave a private keynote to more than 370 Intel Premier partners attending the annual event.

CRN: To what extent has the release of Microsoft's Windows Vista improved demand for your chips?
Otellini: We haven't seen a change. Nor did we see a slowdown in the fourth quarter and early January. I think the deployment of Vista is very important and it's important to have this out. This will be like Windows XP: rapid adoption in consumer because you buy the machine and get Vista, and corporations have their own implementation plans.

CRN: Were your surprised there wasn't a bigger bump in business in the first quarter?

Otellini: Everyone knew Vista was coming. It wasn't a secret.

CRN: But are you getting feedback from customers that they are disappointed?

Otellini: I haven't heard, but its way too soon to tell. It takes awhile to get beyond early adopters and into mainstream. Intel is an early adopter and our deployment probably starts with the release of the first service pack, which I think is in November or in the fourth quarter sometime. We're waiting for that

http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml...

Conclusion-
Just nobody is in a HURRY to switch over to VISTA.
Those who made the mistake to adapt to Vista,find the lack
of DRIVERS & OR DRIVERS THAT DONT WORK a major HASSLE.

Vista in not AS SAFE AS THEY MAKE IT APPEAR- READ THIS-

"Vista vs. Viruses"

To summarize: is Vista secure?
Is Vista really as secure as the advertisements claim? Vista is undoubtedly more secure than previous operating systems from Microsoft. And a system which is configured in such a way that everything is blocked except for access to designated sites could be regarded as being absolutely secure.

However, the majority of users will find the significant restrictions on actions which effectively sterilize the system unacceptable, just as the constant requests to confirm or enter a password for an action which the system defines as being 'potentially dangerous'. And it is at this point that the 'almost totally secure’ system is transformed into a ‘more vulnerable' system.

We should also remember that people are the weakest link in any security system. Email worms are still in existence, and they continue to spread, in spite of the insistent warnings of security professionals not to open attachments to suspicious emails. Given that these pronouncements don’t seem to prevent the majority of users from launching attachments, will alerts from the security system - for instance, requiring the user to enter the administrator's password - really help? And as I stated above, multiple pop-ups will probably irritate the user to such an extent that s/he will either disable the feature, or simply refuse to take it seriously.

http://www.viruslist.com/en/analysis?pubid=2047919..."result"

TO SUMMARIZE IT-

*IT IS THE INTERNET PLUS WIRELESS & NOT VISTA THAT SPURS & WILL FURTHER SPUR DEMAND FOR PORTABILITY.

*LAPTOP WILL REPLACE DESKTOPS & AT THE SAME TIME- THE SERVER REPLACES THE DESKTOP.

*HOME SERVERS WILL BECOME AS COMMON AS DESKTOP IN YOUR HOMES.
AS THE WHOLE FAMILY LOGS ON TO THE INTERNET OR PLAY GAMES OR WORK ON THEM.(MAYBE ALL AT THE SAME TIME)

THATS THE TREND & FUTURE.




RE: INTERNET STARTED IT ALL
By Maharajamd on 3/22/2007 2:37:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
TO SUMMARIZE IT-

*IT IS THE INTERNET PLUS WIRELESS & NOT VISTA THAT SPURS & WILL FURTHER SPUR DEMAND FOR PORTABILITY.

*LAPTOP WILL REPLACE DESKTOPS & AT THE SAME TIME- THE SERVER REPLACES THE DESKTOP.

*HOME SERVERS WILL BECOME AS COMMON AS DESKTOP IN YOUR HOMES.
AS THE WHOLE FAMILY LOGS ON TO THE INTERNET OR PLAY GAMES OR WORK ON THEM.(MAYBE ALL AT THE SAME TIME)

THATS THE TREND & FUTURE.


I know Vista won't spur too much rise in portable sales. I agree there. It is a natural progression to go from a line to over the air. Although I would still see portable devices rise even without WIFI or the internet. We had PCs before wifi and the internet, why would we require it now?

But why when the power and price is the same would you spend money on something that limits you to being at a desk? If the price point is close, who wouldn't buy a portable?

At work I have my laptop, which I bring in everyday and plug into a dock which is hooked up to my monitor. The perfect system imo. I will eventually do the same at home.

I totally agree with the home server thing. I couldn't imagine life without a centralized file server at home. But then again not everyone has a terabyte of mp3s, movies, and tv shows...

What is really going to determine home servers is how the HDTV stuff pans out. Away with cable boxes, in with home hd and file servers? Sounds good to me...


more standardized components.
By Treripica on 3/22/2007 7:10:39 AM , Rating: 2
So many of the critical components are on the mainboard, that to lose one means replacement of the whole board(lots of $ in parts and labor). Some critical components(monitor, discrete video, trackpad, etc) are only available from the manufacturer and rarely at a discount.

Hopefully the increase in laptop usage will spark more normalized interfaces for components like discrete video, more mini-pci components, slots on the board, and a user-replaceable/upgradeable monitor! SODIMM memory, wireless modules, more common slim-factor opticals, and the such are looking to be positive indicators of this.




By crystal clear on 3/22/2007 7:51:03 AM , Rating: 1
Intels COMMON BUILDING BLOCK (CBB) does just that-

Participating in the initiative are the top 10 vendors worldwide plus component suppliers.


Vista?
By Domicinator on 3/22/2007 5:50:14 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know why everything has to turn into a Vista hate-fest. I also don't know why people fail to recognize that the Vista launch is no different than the XP launch. It's not going to be perfect at first, and eventually will be adopted throughout most of the consumer base.

But to stay on track, I can see why this prediction is being made. I'm probably about the last person on earth to own a laptop. I finally bought one this year, and I'm now a believer. I do all my work, e mail, etc. on my laptop. Then when I get home for the day, I go down to my gaming PC and do all my gaming. My job relies a lot on internet access, and now that I can get online virtually wherever I go, there's no more work left to do when I get home.

By the way, I have Vista on my gaming machine, and I'm LOVING it. No, I'm not joking.




again well
By sprockkets on 3/22/2007 11:40:00 PM , Rating: 2
If you replace a typical motherboard in a pc, that's about what one hr of work at about $50 and say $60 for a motherboard, or about $300 for the same thing on a laptop. A screen for a computer is about $175 for what people need, or replace your laptop screen for $400-$600.

Love laptops, hate the extra costs.




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