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Fisher-Price "drool-proof" iPad seat and CTA iPad potty stand draw sharp criticism from some

It may sound like an April Fool's joke or a fake news story from The Onion, but with children using tablets at younger ages, toymaker CTA Digital has offered up a unique and controversial new accessory for Apple, Inc. (AAPL) fans -- a toddler toilet that allows the youngster to use their iPad while potty-training.

I. iPotty -- Abusive?

The product is real and is dubbed the "The Newborn-to-Toddler Apptivity Seat".  It's made in China, stands a foot high, weighs 2.6 lb, and features garish orange and green plastic accents.  It doubles as an "activity seat" (although that might be a ticket to stinky city).  It can fit all but the first generation iPad into its holding bracket.  It has a MSRP of $39.99 USD, but retails for as little as $31.99 USD on Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN). And it's drawing both attention and controversy.

First shown off at the 2013 Consumer Electronics Show (CES), this "iPotty" didn't receive much attention until the holiday season.  But in an example of why there's no such thing as bad publicity, it's now a hot topic, thanks to it scoring the advocacy group Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood's (CCFC) "TOADY (Toys Oppressive And Destructive to Young children) Award for the Worst Toy of the Year."
CTA iPotty

The director of the parent advocacy group CCFC, Dr. Susan Linn, attacks the accessory, stating:

Throughout history, kids have mastered toilet training without touch screens.  The iPotty is a perfect example of marketers trying to create a need where none exists. In fact, the last thing children need is a screen for every single occasion.
CTA iPotty
She adds, "Once again, the TOADY voting reflects the growing resistance to the toy industry’s cynical and self-interested promotion of screen-based products for infants and toddlers."
 
II. Fisher-Price Offers up a "Drool-Proof" iPad Seat
 
CTA isn't alone, though, in peddling product for the world's most popular tablet.  Other companies are pushing iPad-toting tot product of their own.
 
Mattel, Inc. (MAT) is offering a Fisher-Price branded "Fisher-Price iPad Apptivity Seat, Newborn-to-Toddler".  That seat drops the toilet "app", serving as more a high-tech toddler chair.  It's much more expensive, at an MSRP of $79.99 (Amazon price: $75 USD) and weighs more (12.5 lb) than the CTA "iPotty", but it does offer some safety features like a 3-point restraint.  It also "locks your iPad device securely inside case to protect from dribbles and drool" and is adjustable as the child matures.
Fischer Price iPad Seat 2/2
Fisher-Price's website states that the company's philosophy is:

We believe in the potential of children and in the importance of a supportive environment in which they can grow, learn, and get the best possible start in life.

But the director of the parent advocacy group CCFC, Dr. Susan Linn, questions that commitment.  No fan of the iPad seat, she tells The Washington Post:

[The Apptivity Seat is the] ultimate electronic babysitter, whose very existence suggests that it’s fine to leave babies as young as newborns all alone and with an iPad inches from their face.  Fischer-Price should stay true to its mission to foster learning and development by creating products for infants that promote, rather than undermine, interaction with caregivers.

University of New Mexico School of Medicine professor Victor Strasburger, MD, admonishes both products, declaring, "Does anyone out there think that kids need more screen time?  There is no need to hurry to expose kids to new technology, certainly not babies — or newborns!"

Fischer Price iPad Seat

Fisher-Price has yet to comment on the controversy, but CTA's marketing associate Lois Eiler told The Washington Post:

Most families have technology in the home, and the reality is that kids are exposed already, and parents are trying to find the best ways to adapt into their lives the technology in a way that is safe and thoughtful.

Not all parents are convinced.  The CTA seat has an average rating of 3/5 stars on Amazon, owing to a number of low reviews.  The Fisher-Price iPad seat is faring even worse, at 2/5 stars.

CTA and Fischer Price iPad products

One angry parent writes in an Amazon review of the Fisher-Price seat:

If you want to damage your child’s development, buy this chair. Children of a very young age are genetically programmed to respond positively to interacting with PEOPLE. Even if they are just watching the world go by. This is a horrible gadget.

But the products appear to be selling; the Fisher-Price seat is ranked 15th in its category on Amazon, while the CTA "iPotty" is ranked 26th in children's training toilet products.  One potential defense of these products: neglect concerns aside, the iPad is seeing growing adoption in the public school system.  So these companies could spin it that their products are simply preparing the child for their future education.

Sources: CTA The Newborn-to-Toddler Apptivity Seat on Amazon, Fisher-Price Ipad Apptivity Seat, Newborn-to-Toddler on Amazon, CCFC, The Washington Post



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I dunno...
By Motoman on 12/10/2013 10:52:56 PM , Rating: 5
...seems like both of these products are perfect for the Apple consumer base. All of them.




RE: I dunno...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: I dunno...
By EasyC on 12/11/2013 7:29:39 AM , Rating: 1
It's a good thing he used fact, instead of opinion, then.


RE: I dunno...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: I dunno...
By EasyC on 12/11/2013 8:15:22 AM , Rating: 3
RE: I dunno...
By ipay on 12/11/2013 9:34:16 AM , Rating: 2
From a geographical stand point, odds are good this is her:

https://twitter.com/ZemenayA

Needs troll'n.


RE: I dunno...
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/11/2013 8:23:10 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The need to insult other people, hundreds of millions of people, because they chose to buy something you did not speaks of a deep anxiety, the need to reaffirm your own choices by insulting the choices of others. Where does this childish insecurity come from? Beats me, all I know it's that's tedious. Some people seem so bizarrely proud of being crass
Pot..Kettle, and all the other bullshit that goes with it...


RE: I dunno...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/2013 10:14:14 AM , Rating: 1
I don't insult Android users.


RE: I dunno...
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/11/2013 10:26:06 AM , Rating: 2
LOL! Ok....if you say so.


RE: I dunno...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/2013 10:33:36 AM , Rating: 1
I think you are an idiot but not because you use a particular brand of phone.


RE: I dunno...
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/11/2013 11:00:36 AM , Rating: 2
You can think whatever you like Troll :)


RE: I dunno...
By amanojaku on 12/11/2013 12:09:32 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I don't insult Android users.
Yes, you do. You just don't do it like Argon18, who says things like "I kicked that Microsucks crap to the curb in the 90's." You're far more subtle.

Not once have you given credit to any platform other than those offered by Apple. NOT ONCE. You almost never comment on an article that isn't about Apple, but when you do it's baseless accusations of IP theft, predictions that features will fail to gain market acceptance because they aren't from Apple, and biased articles proclaiming Apple's tiny market share to be enviable because of unsustainably high margins.

All that means one thing: you think Apple makes a superior product, and that all other products are inferior, regardless of manufacturer, consumer, or intended purpose. Don't try and pretend you're just some innocent Apple promoter, attempting to share the joys of being juiced. For the most part, Linux and Windows users get along just fine. In fact, they're usually the same people, because they are more objective in recognizing the strengths and weaknesses of both platforms than Apple fanatics are about their machines.

For the record, I AM insulting you. LIAR.


RE: I dunno...
By troysavary on 12/12/2013 1:38:23 AM , Rating: 2
None of those things listed are examples of Tony insulting the users. While he makes seemingly irrational leaps in his defence of Apple, and quotes the most fervently pro-Apple sites as his sources, I have never once seen Tony insult the intelligence of Android users. I have definitely not seen him imply that all Android users are still in potty training, as motoman did to Apple users.


RE: I dunno...
By retrospooty on 12/11/2013 9:29:06 AM , Rating: 2
So... When you do it, its OK but when others do it to Apple, it "speaks of a deep anxiety" - "Childish insecurity" "tedious" and "crass."

LOL. You get funnier every year Tman.


RE: I dunno...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: I dunno...
By retrospooty on 12/11/2013 12:15:21 PM , Rating: 2
The very fact that you act like you don't is insulting in itself. Tony, you have been here for YEARS passively aggressively insulting any company that competes with Apple and anyone that buys their products.

It's not a surprise, we all know you and have seen it for years, but at least be a man and face up to what you do and don't lie about it by cleverly mincing words and intents.


RE: I dunno...
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/11/2013 12:35:52 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
don't lie about it by cleverly mincing words and intents.
That's the problem, he won't because he doesn't believe he is lying, there is a name for that I just can't remember it off the top of my head.

Even when you show him something he says he didn't do, he won't admit it to it, TYP does the same shit...


RE: I dunno...
By retrospooty on 12/11/2013 12:58:46 PM , Rating: 2
Delusional? Denial? Nucking Futz?


RE: I dunno...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: I dunno...
By retrospooty on 12/11/2013 5:47:54 PM , Rating: 2
" casually insulting millions of people who chose to buy a particular brand or product"

First off, I dont say all of Apple's customers are idiots. I have said alot of them are and and that is true. Take the lot that did the IOS7 upgrade and believed that the software update would make it waterproof. OK, that inst the norm, but it does illustrate something. Apple/IOS is indeed the best platform for users that dont have technical knowledge. It is simple, locked down and not alot of options to confuse them. That is just facts. Of course not all of anything is any one way.

" you choose to go along with such cheap crap it because it's easier, safer, less challenging. I think you are being ethically and intellectually lazy. "

I would argue that choosing any particular companies side in all things, and all products no matter what is being ethically and intellectually lazy. I would also argue that you taking it so personally when people dislike Apple is borderline neurotic.

"BTW what's with the endless use of the new term "passive aggressive"?"

I know of no other phrase that better describes your posts lately. Do you?


RE: I dunno...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: I dunno...
By retrospooty on 12/11/2013 6:49:39 PM , Rating: 2
You aren't an idiot. More than a bit nutty over a company? Hell yes, but not an idiot. Why you are so slimily into a company is beyond my senses.

If you are asking me if there are 20%, say 100 million iPhone/iPad users that are idiots I will say yes, probably more than that.


RE: I dunno...
By evo slevven on 12/11/2013 9:37:59 PM , Rating: 2
If you take those millions of people as a percent of the population, then bigger things in the history of humanity have proven us to be really prone to being idiots. I mean:

-Only the Jesuits, Greek Scholars, a few sailors as well as the "Orient" (as it were called) didn't believe the world was flat then

- the Earth as the center of the universe! Talk about a doozy on that one. Oh wait and then

- Anyone not believing in your "God" a heretic. We burned, sliced and done tons in that arena for non-believers.

So yes, in reality you can say millions of people are idiots and how history has proven is prone to being as such and in large numbers. If you want to you can visit the other posts on China's government talking about how smog is a positive. On that end, I could've taken the time to include the whole argument of global warming but that'd be too much.I'd rather go with how much of the US population believes Obama is from Kenya too?

The funny part of your argument is related to a form of debating called "Dialectics" meaning you can say the other side doesn't have the ability to self-examine their own argument and understand its fallacies yet you fall prone into the same trap of being unable to fathom your own.

Can you conversely PROVE that there aren't 50-100 million idiots worldwide? The ability to prove and disprove it are equally not doable however, historically, there have been large percentages of the population swayed into believing something that is in fact false and not true.

And actually you can call users of a specific platform "idiots". Why? Its called an opinion you idiot. Ever heard of it? Its in fact an opinionated statement too. I can even add that your both a hypocritical idiot as much as a moronic idiot to give an example. Do I need proof for that? No. Its, again, a statement of opinions founded on nothing else than what one believes, assumes or likewise. So honestly, retorting with the "back up your claim" is almost the equal of saying "please stfu unless you can find that particular science journal stating it". Guess what, its a forum and at the end of the day there is more than one person saying it.


RE: I dunno...
By retrospooty on 12/11/2013 9:53:14 PM , Rating: 2
LOL. +1 all good points.

Aside from all that, I find it hilarious how Tony has become such a ninny lately.


RE: I dunno...
By Wazza1234 on 12/12/2013 5:22:56 AM , Rating: 2
Only on this site would someone lack the intelligence to see why your comment is flawed and think you made good points.

Lets start with your premise:

'bigger things in the history of humanity have proven us to be really prone to being idiots'

Even if you managed to prove this, would it go any way, whatsoever, to proving that the original comment about iPhone users was correct? If I claim that A is correlated to B, a correlation between B and C does not prove that. So your comment is wrong right from the start. Ironically your comment which discusses logical errors.

'Only the Jesuits, Greek Scholars, a few sailors as well as the "Orient" (as it were called) didn't believe the world was flat then'

Lack of information <> unintelligent. You yourself would also have believed that the world was flat back then, yet you're now trying to prove that they are idiots? So are you an idiot? If not, this is an invalid point.

'the Earth as the center of the universe! Talk about a doozy on that one. Oh wait and then'

Exactly the same argument applies here.

'Anyone not believing in your "God" a heretic. We burned, sliced and done tons in that arena for non-believers'

Essentially, religion is an argument for mass idiocy, yes - but as I pointed out in my first comment, a certain action constituting idiocy is not a prove for a random other action being related heavily with stupidity.

'Can you conversely PROVE that there aren't 50-100 million idiots worldwide?'

You only have to PROVE something if you're CLAIMING IT. The person who CLAIMED something here was retrospooty - that a 'LOT' of iPhone users are idiots. Tony was asking him to clarify what he meant by a 'lot', and asking for evidence, not making any counter claim. The burden of proof (and clarification) is therefore on retrospooty, not Tony.

'And actually you can call users of a specific platform "idiots". Why? Its called an opinion you idiot. Ever heard of it? Its in fact an opinionated statement too. I can even add that your both a hypocritical idiot as much as a moronic idiot to give an example. Do I need proof for that? No. Its, again, a statement of opinions founded on nothing else than what one believes, assumes or likewise. So honestly, retorting with the "back up your claim" is almost the equal of saying "please stfu unless you can find that particular science journal stating it". Guess what, its a forum and at the end of the day there is more than one person saying it.'

Actually Tony is assuming that retrospooty isn't as unintelligent and irrational as your comment might suggest. He is assuming that retro actually genuinely believes that iPhone users are less intelligent (because if he doesn't, his point is completely removed), and while you can obviously claim you have an opinion of anything, being asked to back it up is a perfectly reasonable request. For example, if I told you that Android users were less intelligent on average than iPhone users - and you asked me to back it up, I would point you to the surveys showing that iPhone users are better educated on average. An opinion without substance is just fanboy rhetoric, something you're happy to claim on Retro's behalf but something he would vehemently deny.


RE: I dunno...
By retrospooty on 12/12/2013 7:08:18 AM , Rating: 1
And look, the thread drew out the king idiot himself. Welcome back tg. I knew the idit beacon would bring you running. Like a cat to catnip, captain of all idiots has arrived.

But no, if you bothered to read the thread I wasn't even the one saying anything at all here.

Here is where I came in - Tony acting above it all and I replied here - "So... When you do it, its OK but when others do it to Apple, it "speaks of a deep anxiety" - "Childish insecurity" "tedious" and "crass."


RE: I dunno...
By retrospooty on 12/12/2013 7:22:52 AM , Rating: 2
And BTW, nice job on completely missing the point once again. You typed how many paragraphs about a totally missed point? LOL


RE: I dunno...
By Tony Swash on 12/12/2013 6:15:41 AM , Rating: 2
I think that the following is generally true.

Most people are pretty OK and normal and most people buys stuff because it makes sense to them. People who buy Windows or Mac, Android or iOS, are all making reasonably rational decisions and those decisions say almost nothing about what sort of people they are (think about it: judging an entire persons persona on the basis of which phone they buy? How silly is that)

Trying to find generic difference between groups of hundreds of millions of users of different mobile device platforms is a fools errand. There may be small and trivial statistical differences (income levels etc) but those sort of small, marginal difference are far out weighed by the similarities between users of all mobile platforms.

Dismissing huge groups of people as idiots is at best the sort of thing shallow adolescents tend to do and when such behaviour persists into adult life it's usually associated with boorish insecurity.

Everyone tempted to dismiss huge groups of people as idiots would be be better served by realising that in order to achieve self worth and to feel smart other people don't have to be stupid.


RE: I dunno...
By retrospooty on 12/12/2013 7:20:07 AM , Rating: 2
"Everyone tempted to dismiss huge groups of people as idiots"

Come on Tony, stop being such a ninny. When in context of a conversation no-one "dismisses" entire groups of people as whatever insult, it is meant to refer to that conversation only. No-one above is meaning that they are all actually in fact certifiable idiots (well, maybe Motoman thinks that, but normal people dont). It's a tech site and a tech product, the term is meant to refer to those without technical inclination or drive to learn it. If this were an automotive site, it might be said that people that buy Honda's and Toyota's are idiots, meaning they probably arent all that into cars. Nothing else. Duh. Like I said above, IOS devices are good for those users, I myself recommend iPhone and iPad for those people I work with that don't know, or care, or care to learn anything about tech. It's a good platform for those people and thus why the jab that many IOS users are "idiots" on a tech site.

Would the term "newbs" be more to your liking? Too bad, toughen up and learn context.


RE: I dunno...
By rountad on 12/12/2013 10:36:21 AM , Rating: 3
I generally don't, because I don't want to be that person, but here's what I've noticed.

IMO, it seems like there are three main types of iPhone users.

1) the people who get one just because they think it's easy or have heard it's great. (low information types)

2) the people who think that they are magical. (the indoctrinated)

3) the users who have done a little research and want one for a reason that they can verbalize, like it has good call quality, good battery life, or Apple's app store. (the informed)

The first two types incite the insults.

You can even see it in the commercials...


RE: I dunno...
By retrospooty on 12/12/2013 10:40:52 AM , Rating: 1
"The first two types incite the insults."

Totally agreed, and to be clear, its regarding tech, not the peoples entire world. My own mother and grandmother are 2 of those iPhone toting "idiots". They aren't stupid, they are clueless about tech and therefore the iPhone fits them very well. I highly recommend their next phones be iPhones due to that fact.


Let's the parents do the parenting
By frozenassets on 12/10/2013 10:25:52 PM , Rating: 3
My 4 year old loves her iPad. Technology isn't evil, it's all about how it's used. She has her educational programs and mixes it with a little Netflix. Last week she came to me making hand signals while saying words, I looked it up, it's sign language that she's learning on her own from a show on Netflix.

She's having a tough time with potty training (kid won't sit still and has constipation issues)so we sit her on her potty in front of the TV so she can take her time and not feel like she's in the spotlight.

I own neither of these gadgets but who am I to condemn someone who does? I'm sure they each have their uses.




RE: Let's the parents do the parenting
By Reclaimer77 on 12/11/2013 12:15:13 AM , Rating: 2
Like I keep saying, this is just more rampant technophobia. How in the hell could this be harmful? Wtf!


RE: Let's the parents do the parenting
By troysavary on 12/12/2013 1:34:07 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, how dare we suggest that parents actually interact with their kids? iPads make great babysitters.


By Reclaimer77 on 12/12/2013 1:08:31 PM , Rating: 2
How is the iPad conceptually different from other toys that have been strapped onto these kind of things for years? Is a touchscreen somehow detrimental to an infant, but an analog toy not?

I see no logic in your kneejerk technophobia. You are NOT a bad parent because you choose an electronic device over something else. Get real.

Interaction? Audio/video stimulation and world-interaction though touch is crucial for a developing human brain. You have no clue wtf you're talking about.


By purerice on 12/12/2013 6:38:31 PM , Rating: 2
Some friends who have a toddler used to relax her with youtube videos on a smartphone. At first it was great. After a year or so it became like a drug. She would act up in order to get youtube. Upon realizing that they ended the practice. Her behavior is so much improved now it is scary.

To call their experience or people who have had similar experiences technophobic would be naive. Access to technology is not itself harmful. What is harmful is when parents replace themselves and interaction and relationship with technology.


RE: Let's the parents do the parenting
By Flunk on 12/11/2013 12:18:32 AM , Rating: 2
I agree, we should start handing infants iPhones right out of the womb.


RE: Let's the parents do the parenting
By ipay on 12/11/2013 9:37:13 AM , Rating: 3
Why so late? A little lube and a speculum... no problem.


Amazon reviews are useless
By The Von Matrices on 12/10/2013 10:28:42 PM , Rating: 1
Whether or not these products are beneficial to toddlers' health, Amazon should restrict product reviews to people who actually own the product. There's no reason why someone who philosophically disagrees with the intent of the product (and never would buy it) should be allowed to negatively rate it and sway potential buyers.




RE: Amazon reviews are useless
By greenchinesepuck on 12/13/2013 3:45:01 AM , Rating: 2
jeeez man where did you find such gems? I'm all hurting from laughing so hard... I haven't laughed so much in years, I had no idea amazon reviews could be THAT... oh man...


Lighten up Francis !
By Dr of crap on 12/11/2013 12:33:32 PM , Rating: 3
IF there is a market for this, is will sell.

Why does everyone think they know what is best?

I don't need a pickup and most likely won't buy one, YET I don't bad mouth or say no one should buy one.
I don't like mayo, yet I don't say every sandwich made MUST not have mayo one it, or tell everyone how bad I think mayo is.

If there is a market it will sell, that is how our society works.

Lighten up Francis!!




Wall-E
By DtTall on 12/12/2013 10:55:03 AM , Rating: 3
That toddler thing with the screen in front of it reminds me of the humans from Wall-e.

I mean. They're pretty much identical. Makes me LOL in kind of a sad way.

If you need a memory refresher, here's an image link: http://bit.ly/1j06PxE




Irreversible problems
By DBissett on 12/11/2013 8:10:43 AM , Rating: 2
It's potentially dangerous that products such as these are rushing to market based on market interests without adequate research into the long term consequences of impacting infant development to such a degree. It's doubtful that you really want infant neurological development inextricably integrated with what Apple or any other manufacturer choses to immerse your infant in. The huge development that occurs in our brains from age 0-2,3,4 provide hardwiring that shapes our perceptions and interactions with the world for a lifetime.




Mommmm! Bathroom!!
By dezl337 on 12/11/2013 8:46:05 AM , Rating: 2
Someone watched South Park's "Make Love, Not Warcraft" episode.




That's it! I'm suing!!
By marvdmartian on 12/11/2013 9:19:06 AM , Rating: 2
I came up with the concept for the iCrap a few years ago! I'm suing these people!!




So where is mine?
By CaedenV on 12/11/2013 11:42:21 AM , Rating: 2
I am only half kidding here. I would love to have some sort of papasan with an adjustable computer screen hanging in front of me while I play games. And I think I would enjoy it more than my kids would!




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