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“My decision to stop iPhone development has had everything to do with Apple’s policies.” – Joe Hewitt

In the early days of social networking, the dominant player was MySpace. As time went by, MySpace was joined by other players like Facebook and Twitter. MySpace has since lost the top position in the social networking world to Facebook.

In October, traffic numbers for September 2009 for social networking sites came in and Facebook had over 300 million users, pushing MySpace to second place in user numbers. One of the things that Facebook users on the iPhone enjoy and that contributed to the user numbers is the Facebook iPhone app, which is the most popular app on the App Store.

The developer that built the Facebook app for the iPhone has quit development for the iPhone and passed the app off to another engineer at Facebook. TechCrunch reports that Facebook App developer Joe Hewitt is still at Facebook and is simply working on new projects.

Exactly what projects the Hewitt is working on are unknown. As for the reason why the developer stopped developing for the iPhone, the reason is clear. Hewitt said, "My decision to stop iPhone development has had everything to do with Apple’s policies." Hewitt says that he is "philosophically opposed" to the existence of a review process and that he is worried Apple's policy might be implemented by other companies seeking to mimic Apple's App store success.

Apple has been under increasing scrutiny for its practices of approving and disapproving apps that are seemingly haphazardly enforced. Apple has found itself in hot water with the FCC after the FCC asked AT&T and Apple to explain why they rejected Google Voice from the App Store.

One particularly tough question the FCC posed to the AT&T and Apple was, "Do any devices that operate on AT&T’s network allow use of the Google Voice application? Do any devices that operate on AT&T’s network allow use of other applications that have been rejected for the iPhone."

Despite Hewitt's stepping away form iPhone development for Facebook, the social networking giant still has people working on its iPhone application. Perhaps the action by a high profile developer will spur others to speak out about the Apple app approval process.



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If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By Motoman on 11/12/2009 10:17:40 AM , Rating: 5
...as a consumer, don't buy the product.

...as a developer, don't support the product.

Simple as that.




RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By Bateluer on 11/12/2009 10:26:21 AM , Rating: 5
People are too stupid for that. Everyone knows this.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By DCstewieG on 11/12/2009 10:55:33 AM , Rating: 5
I don't think most are stupid, I think they don't care. I'm sure there are plenty of geeks out there refusing to get an iPhone because of this.

People can vote with their wallets in both directions.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By Bateluer on 11/12/09, Rating: 0
RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By ebakke on 11/12/2009 11:18:20 AM , Rating: 1
So in summary: "People who don't think like I do, are stupid" ??


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By Bateluer on 11/12/2009 11:41:21 AM , Rating: 2
When I explain the benefits of free software to an individual and clear and simple terms, they understand fully and agree with me. And then they fall for marketing and buy the proprietary product regardless.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By ebakke on 11/12/2009 11:44:50 AM , Rating: 5
Alternatively, it could be that they value things differently than you do.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By invidious on 11/12/2009 1:01:25 PM , Rating: 2
Acting on priciple usually causes more greef than acting based on pleasure/pain. Stupidity has nothing to do with it. Either path of reasoning can result in a stupid decision.

Judging people's inteligence based solely upon their actions is what is stupid.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By inighthawki on 11/12/2009 12:53:49 PM , Rating: 4
Free software mostcertainly has its advantages, but surely you cannot always believe that every single person values that product more, can you? People explain open office to me all the time, and I completely agree that it's awesome and, in fact, very useful, productive, and is a great suite of tools. I, on the other hand, still prefer MS Office. Sure it costs more than free, and for what I use it for, I barely make use of the special advantages of what Office offers, but I like MS Office better. I find the quality of the product superior and am willing to pay more, despite the fact that Open Office meets my needs. You cannot say that these people are falling for marketing. some people prefer MACs despite being very closed to software development and as such has fewer applications, and some people prefer Windows, or even Linux for the matter.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By damianrobertjones on 11/12/2009 4:29:11 PM , Rating: 1
Nope. Falling for marketing, especially the younger generations.

When I was young you weren't cool unless you had the £120 trainers of the latest track suit. We bugged parents and they gave in, at times. I never had the £120 trainers or the fancy track suits but I did have cheaper versions

Now, Jimmy, the complete rich kid has the latest iPhone/iPod and thus you're not cool if you don't own an iPod/iPhone. In the last two weeks alone, 5 parents have asked me about ipods and I've suggested different manufacturers etc. The next day, "Nope, he won't budge"

Marketing and social order win over COMMON SENSE.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By Spuke on 11/12/2009 7:16:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Marketing and social order win over COMMON SENSE.
Not saying it's right but this is the way it is. Children especially need to "fit in". A free thinking child is an oxymoron.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By kmmatney on 11/12/2009 10:58:26 PM , Rating: 2
I recommend iPods over other brands, because I know it is a quality product that will last. I've tried other brands of MP3 players (Sansa and Cowon) and they both had their issues. The Sansa died in less than a year, and the Cowon was buggy and a pain to use. So I sold the Cowon and bought an Ipod nano (2nd gen) which was taken a lot of abuse and still works great. AT least you know you are getting a quality product with the iPod.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By AshT on 11/13/2009 2:29:28 AM , Rating: 2
This is a funny post.

When I was young trainers cost a top whack of £20, it was cool to slag off Apple computers and buy PCs.

Oh wait ... how the debates grow old and never get settled.

Now I have experience, money and intelligence I am apparently one of the zombie crowd for owning Apple products?

lol you fkers crack me up!

Incidentally I own WinXP, Vista and Win7 on laptops and desktops as well. All, including the Mac have their own uses. One day you may see through the BS mist as well.

Finally: iPod is the best MP3 player on the market, if you recommended other brands then I do wonder if you are as clued up as you think ...


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By someguy123 on 11/13/2009 4:41:23 AM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't say the Ipod is the best mp3 player on the market. Cowon and Iriver make better quality (sound wise) mp3 players, although I'm not sure if they can match ipod's hard drive capacities. If you need small size, the ipod nanos probably are the best on the market, but for the regular sized ipods there do exist better alternatives.

Anyway, I do have to agree somewhat with the other poster. Apple's marketing has worked incredibly well and they're "perceived" as high quality due to this, regardless of actual build quality or parts. There is the case of different strokes for different folks, but so many people purchase apple just for the logo. In college so many people walk around with huge, expensive apple laptops and use it for basic tasks like surfing the internet.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By AshT on 11/13/2009 5:52:24 AM , Rating: 2
Apples market cap went from (roughly) $25billion in 2003 to $181.93billion today.

That's not marketing, that's a hugely successful business and brand that easily compete with Google and Microsoft in the tech sector and is gaining more ground with more innovative products. Let's see what happens when the new tablet comes out. I wish them all the luck because I love it when companies push boundaries.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By seamonkey79 on 11/13/2009 8:32:14 AM , Rating: 2
...through marketing... You can't sell a product without marketing it, and Apple managed to market their standard (for the most part) stuff as cool. Combine that with the first real online music/video distribution method and they've cornered the market, even though they have melting batteries, guest accounts that wipe accounts, and relatively poor sound quality. While Apple certainly does not have the BEST products on the market, they do have the COOLEST on the market, and that's more important than quality.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By B3an on 11/13/2009 8:53:53 AM , Rating: 2
No, it's marketing. Any remotely intelligent person knows the best thing Apple is good at, is marketing, and this is the biggest reason they sell products.

If you dont market your products well they will not sell no matter how good they are (i can list TONS of other companies with great products that sell poorly because of bad marketing).


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By AshT on 11/13/2009 11:53:31 AM , Rating: 2
Please do.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By Ammohunt on 11/12/09, Rating: -1
RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By The0ne on 11/12/2009 10:41:33 AM , Rating: 2
Concur. Unfortunately we're going to see many more app stores mimicking Apple. Hopefully one of them will realize and leave it open to the user/public. Companies are funny in a way, not so different from the average Joe. They see someone making money and they follow blindly, regardless of their initial goals. Clear example of this are the 3 consoles.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By cplusplus on 11/12/2009 10:59:07 AM , Rating: 2
Android Market, anyone?


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By amanojaku on 11/12/2009 11:01:13 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Unfortunately we're going to see many more app stores mimicking Apple.
I don't think so. Most companies don't care about what applications run on their devices, as long as they get paid and don't get sued. Third party apps are not the responsibility of the device vendor, so being sued isn't a concern. It all comes down to money, then, and "reviewing" and "rejecting" most of the apps will limit profits.

Apple is unique in that it doesn't want a majority share of anything. It simply wants to be elitist, which means excluding most of the world and raising prices. Look at how many sales Meridian Audio makes compared to Sony: a few hundred a year at an average price of $100K USD, vs. millions of sales at an average price of $1,000 USD. Apple wants to be Meridian.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By Spuke on 11/12/2009 7:20:57 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Look at how many sales Meridian Audio makes compared to Sony
Except Apple isn't Meridian Audio. Meridian offers a distinct product whereas Apple offers the last years sh!t in a different wrapper.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By Tony Swash on 11/12/2009 10:48:26 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
...as a consumer, don't buy the product.

...as a developer, don't support the product.


Obviously nobody is listening to you as Apple have sold 50 million phones, 2 billion apps and have a library of over 100,000 apps currently running on the iPhone platform.

So Apple seems to be doing something right - or least a hell of lot better than any of their competitors. I have never submitted an app to Apple so I have no first hand experience of what that experience is like but it does seem obvious to me that the whole App Store project has been hugely more successful than anyone seems to have foreseen (other than perhaps his Steveness) and the sheer scale of the app phenomenon has taken a lot catching up with in terms of systems and management however if I had to choose the problems of success or the problems of failure I think I would take the former.

It does seem to me that the various problems and irritations of the app store system are a result of the scale of its success. Only time will tell if Apple can iron out these problems or if the app store concept is somehow flawed. At this point in time it looks to be one of the great success stories of the tech world so I see no reason for Apple to abandon it and every reason to retain and improve. It will be interesting to see if the android platform(s) can match the app store in terms of scale and success - I suspect not but time will tell.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By Bateluer on 11/12/2009 11:00:19 AM , Rating: 2
Where has Apple sold 50 million iPhones? That's a lot of phones for a company that doesn't even make the top 5 list by market share.

http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20081030/WIRELE...


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By cplusplus on 11/12/2009 11:00:12 AM , Rating: 2
I think they might mean iPhones + iPod Touches, in which case that number sounds about right.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By AshT on 11/12/09, Rating: 0
RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By Alexstarfire on 11/13/2009 6:00:35 AM , Rating: 2
No, you just fail to realize that the smartphone market isn't the whole cell phone market.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By AshT on 11/13/2009 6:02:22 AM , Rating: 2
Ah you're right there, I forgot about all the cheap phones these companies pump out.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By The0ne on 11/12/2009 11:26:36 AM , Rating: 2
I actually don't view a huge zombie craze following as a success; this is just a personal view. Of course, we have this in every nuke and cranny of course. What it comes down to is what you're willing to live with; y'know, kinda like the interviews with the tea party supporters...absolutely no clue why they are there and what they are doing but cheering all the way.

There's a good reason why faboy-ism exists. It exists because those type of consumers refuse to accept any other type of whatever whether it is that would/could be beneficial. That's a blind eye, zombie craze follower in my view :) That is not to say Apple hasn't done right, it's just that some people are on the bandwagon because they just want to be on it hahahah


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By AshT on 11/12/2009 11:28:23 AM , Rating: 1
Ah ok, so you're not just following the Apple-bashing crowd then?

Which Apple products have you been using and don't like?


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By erple2 on 11/12/2009 5:55:20 PM , Rating: 2
Curious. I'd measure a zombie craze following making your company billions of dollars in profits a definite success. It's a marketing and financial success, at least.

Ultimately, it boils down to Apple's internal policies - they very much want to control not just the devices but the far less tangible brand image. I can understand and agree with their stance on a well-defined and well-understood vetting process for approving Apps for the App Store.

While I don't (and I'd bet everyone here) know is what are the criteria used for that vetting process. As long as Apple is internally consistent with what they approve and what they don't approve, I don't have a problem with it.

Apple again is protecting their brand image. They have certain quality standards that they want to portray in their products, and as a result, they have a vested interest in what is shown on their product.

I suppose that's the downside of marketing a brand and not just a tool.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By FITCamaro on 11/12/2009 12:44:54 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. Glad this Guy is coming out and speaking up against apple in this regard.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By invidious on 11/12/2009 12:52:16 PM , Rating: 2
Stop repeated the same tired mantra. Your short sighted opinion is only valid if you have no vested interest in the product, those who are tied to the phone via contract do have vested interest and don't care about your hindsight.


RE: If you don't like Ts & Cs...
By Motoman on 11/12/2009 3:43:04 PM , Rating: 2
My hindsight is irrelevant. Their foresight is what should have been used. That is the point of this.


Really?
By mydogfarted on 11/12/2009 10:43:30 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
I can understand why they might make some of the choices when it comes to approving apps or not, but I really have to agree with this fellow in opposing the whole process. I'd prefer to be able to access any app I'd like and if it happens to be full of bugs then that's my problem.


So, you fault Apple for wanting to make sure an application is stable? remember, most iPhone users are idiots. If the application crashes and knocks out the phone, who is the customer going to blame? Not the developer.




RE: Really?
By amanojaku on 11/12/2009 11:06:32 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, because Apple doesn't do this for it's PCs, and the iPhone is really just a mini-PC with a crap-ass phone. Anyway, if Apple's users complain about crappy apps that's Apple's fault for marketing to morons.


RE: Really?
By Hare on 11/12/2009 11:12:07 AM , Rating: 3
Do you honestly think that the review process is about stability? Give me a break. They have clearly told otherwise (reason is business or politics).

Guess why Apple doesn't let Adobe develope Flash for the iPhone? Maybe people would start playing flash games instead of buying similar games available only through appstore...

It's only about maximizing profits. Stability is pretty much at the bottom of the list.


RE: Really?
By AshT on 11/12/09, Rating: 0
RE: Really?
By Spivonious on 11/12/2009 12:53:34 PM , Rating: 2
Apple fanboy alert.


RE: Really?
By AshT on 11/12/2009 1:12:35 PM , Rating: 2
Mmmk. If you mean Apple-product-owner ... then yes. iPhone and a Mac. So I guess that means I'm qualified to talk about them.


RE: Really?
By aapocketz on 11/12/2009 2:56:48 PM , Rating: 2
sounds more like you may be biased, unless you can think of a non-profit motive for not allowing mobile flash client. Its a business, pretty much all their rational decisions have (and should have) profit motive.

Another phone platform like symbian or android may seek to support flash to make the phone more attractive, especially with flash video and games being key. Apple probably wants to restrict this as much as possible to not cannibalize their app business. Apple will probably not change this policy until other platforms start attracting away their customers using this feature to differentiate the market. Money talks.


RE: Really?
By kmmatney on 11/12/2009 11:12:54 PM , Rating: 2
As an iPhone owner, I can speak for many of us when I say - we don't give a rats ass about Flash. I'm not against it, but if there was support, I would hope there would be an option to turn it off. There are a few improvements I would like to see - such as expandable memory, and better multi-tasking (it is there on the iPhone, but limited) but overall it does every business task I need it to do.


RE: Really?
By AshT on 11/13/2009 2:34:40 AM , Rating: 2
Why don't you grow your hair and a beard and smoke da happy herb and dream of a day when a business makes their decisions based on love and peace and not a corporate strategy?


Facebook Navigation
By Mitch101 on 11/12/2009 10:42:25 AM , Rating: 2
Am I the only person who finds facebook navigation painful? Unless its in e-mail or on my wall its painful to navigate. Clicking on my friends it never wants to list them it always wants to try and show me people I might know. Photo uploads are painful because not all the pictures I want to upload are in the same place so I have to prep a directory of images before I upload them. They really could use improvements to the navigation of facebook.




RE: Facebook Navigation
By aapocketz on 11/12/2009 2:47:36 PM , Rating: 2
Some of the navigation is annoying, stuff seems to show up in multiple places, and settings aren't clear and facebook applications are annoying and have to be blocked one by one.

As far as uploading photos, there is a decent plugin to picasa which is what I use to organize photos. The biggest problem with sharing photos online is I find I have to upload them to facebook, picasaweb, flickr and so on to allow people to see them, and if people comment on them or tag people, you cant "sync" easily these multiple accounts.


RE: Facebook Navigation
By damianrobertjones on 11/12/2009 4:32:43 PM , Rating: 2
Hover over the friends section, then click 'All friends' in the drop down that appears.


RE: Facebook Navigation
By kmmatney on 11/12/2009 11:17:22 PM , Rating: 2
I actually find it easier to navigate from the iPhone app than from the web page itself. Less crap in the way


Restrictions suck
By HotFoot on 11/12/2009 10:11:55 AM , Rating: 2
I can understand why they might make some of the choices when it comes to approving apps or not, but I really have to agree with this fellow in opposing the whole process. I'd prefer to be able to access any app I'd like and if it happens to be full of bugs then that's my problem.

In a related note, I'm seriously considering the new N900. It looks to have a much more open policy with what software I run on my phone. High value to me is a VoIP service I can use over my home or hotspot wifi - or if need by over a 3g network on a data plan. My friend, who uses an iPhone, is quite sure they can't do this on their phone (it's not jailbroken and they're not interested in jailbreaking it). If someone knows if my friend using the iPhone can get a VoIP service working on it, please let me know.




RE: Restrictions suck
By pkoi on 11/15/2009 10:49:53 AM , Rating: 2
What ?? Hint : type skype in the apps store

There is at least 5 doing the same thing.
SIP soft phone, Fring come to mind

having A jailed iphone is complete nonsense.


Article
By L1011 on 11/12/2009 11:41:01 AM , Rating: 2
Will DT puhleeeze stop dumbing-down your articles in the first two paragraphs? You don't need to tell us MySpace lost to Facebook and Twitter, especially since MySpace and Twitter have NOTHING to do with the title of this article.

I like DT, but your writing style is at times really annoying. You don't need to cater to the lowest common denominator.




RE: Article
By pkoi on 11/15/2009 10:44:17 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed .

Seams like most do it, I just noticed i had a reflex to start on 2nd paragraph.

Note to self : on DT read from 3rd paragraph down.


By damianrobertjones on 11/12/2009 4:29:41 PM , Rating: 2
Falling for marketing, especially the younger generations.

When I was young you weren't cool unless you had the £120 trainers of the latest track suit. We bugged parents and they gave in, at times. I never had the £120 trainers or the fancy track suits but I did have cheaper versions

Now, Jimmy, the complete rich kid has the latest iPhone/iPod and thus you're not cool if you don't own an iPod/iPhone. In the last two weeks alone, 5 parents have asked me about ipods and I've suggested different manufacturers etc. The next day, "Nope, he won't budge"

Marketing and social order win over COMMON SENSE.




1984...
By kyleb2112 on 11/12/2009 9:26:07 PM , Rating: 2
1984 won't be like "1984"...but 2010 will be.
-Apple




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