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Google continues its push into home automation, energy monitoring

It was only a matter of time before someone bigger came around throwing around a lot of cash, and that day is today. Nest Labs dazzled an American audience accustomed to not thinking about or even caring about one of devices that was responsible for a huge chunk of monthly power consumption: the thermostat.
 
The first generation Nest Learning Thermostat (which launched in late 2011) provided an easy to use interface, and made it easy for homeowner to see HOW to save energy and WHEN they would save energy based on their habits. Nest Labs followed up with a smaller profile second-generation thermostat in 2012.


Nest Labs Learning Thermostat
 
The company then late last year tried its hand at revolutionizing the smoke alarm segment with the Nest Protect.
 
Google was sitting back this whole time, watching and waiting. And today, Google announced that it has acquiring Nest Labs for $3.2 billion in cash.


Nest founders Matt Rogers (L) and Tony Fadell (R) with Google CEO Larry Page (C)
 
“Nest’s founders, Tony Fadell and Matt Rogers, have built a tremendous team that we are excited to welcome into the Google family,” said Google CEO Larry Page. “They’re already delivering amazing products you can buy right now--thermostats that save energy and smoke/CO alarms that can help keep your family safe. We are excited to bring great experiences to more homes in more countries and fulfill their dreams!”


Nest Protect Smoke Detector
 
Nest Labs CEO Tony Fadell will continue to manage the team under the new ownership of Google. “We’re thrilled to join Google,” said Fadell. “With their support, Nest will be even better placed to build simple, thoughtful devices that make life easier at home, and that have a positive impact on the world.”

According to a FAQ posted on Nest’s website, product warranties will stay the same, Nest thermostats will still be sold in retail stores, and the iOS version of the Nest app will still continue to support iOS. And since we are talking about Google, the sticky issue of privacy is also addressed:
 
Our privacy policy clearly limits the use of customer information to providing and improving Nest’s products and services. We’ve always taken privacy seriously and this will not change.
 
It was reported just last month that Google was testing internet-connected smart thermostats in St. Louis, but it looks like this latest purchase definitely jumpstarts those efforts.

Sources: Google, Nest [1], [2]



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Overpaid?
By troysavary on 1/13/2014 4:55:55 PM , Rating: 3
Was Nest worth even a fraction of that?




RE: Overpaid?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/13/14, Rating: -1
RE: Overpaid?
By Treknologist on 1/13/2014 5:07:54 PM , Rating: 2
I believe it was a couple of years ago that Google had mentioned something akin to Google Home where they had home automation demonstrated for thins like turning the lights on, etc. It didn't seem to go anywhere but I guess we now know where it is going.


RE: Overpaid?
By Jeffk464 on 1/13/2014 6:26:14 PM , Rating: 3
Compete package needs:
1. Light control
2. alarm system - monitor key windows and doors, motion detectors, and probably IP cameras.
3. thermostat
4. garage/front door opener
5. great control system through android of course

quirky stuff:
pet feeder
access your DVR to set recordings


RE: Overpaid?
By shabby on 1/13/2014 7:37:31 PM , Rating: 2
How deep are your pockets?


RE: Overpaid?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/13/2014 7:50:35 PM , Rating: 2
That's what I'm saying though, home automation SHOULD be cheap with today's technology. But existing solutions are ridiculously priced, and not even all that modern.

They are also overly-complex for no good reason (besides locking you in to their installers). With existing technology, you could offer a home automation kit that requires hardly ANY technical expertise required of the buyer to set up.

Say what you want about Google, but if there's one thing they are good at, is driving the costs down or outright eliminating them. We'll just have to see if this goes somewhere.


RE: Overpaid?
By Spuke on 1/13/2014 11:12:41 PM , Rating: 2
I looked into this back in 2005 (buzz words were whole house this and that) and if you think prices are high now...


RE: Overpaid?
By Solandri on 1/14/2014 1:40:54 AM , Rating: 3
You remember when a crewmember aboard the Enterprise would walk into their quarters and say, "Lights 50%, put on some light jazz music, and turn the temperature down a bit"? I'm pretty sure that's what Google is aiming for.


RE: Overpaid?
By vortmax2 on 1/14/2014 1:23:25 PM , Rating: 2
I just love how concepts from TNG (from the late 80s/early 90s...much earlier if you consider TOS) are being used as a goal for today's tech. Can't wait until this is seamlessly integrated into homes, cars, etc.

As a side note...Intel does have it right with voice control. Lets see how much they can/will contribute.


RE: Overpaid?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/14/2014 1:33:47 PM , Rating: 2
"Tea. Earl grey. Hot."


RE: Overpaid?
By marvdmartian on 1/14/2014 7:24:24 AM , Rating: 2
Why not an automated defense system? I'm certain Google could do a much better job with ED-209!

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2195975/robocop_the_...


RE: Overpaid?
By Argon18 on 1/13/14, Rating: -1
RE: Overpaid?
By themaster08 on 1/13/2014 5:34:11 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
So where does Microsoft fit in, with their ~$80 Billion in cash? There's a good troll analogy in there somewhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_a...

Microsoft make plenty of acquisitions, with the obvious big ones from the last couple of years being Skype, Perceptive Pixel, Yammer, and Nokia.


RE: Overpaid?
By Jeffk464 on 1/13/14, Rating: 0
RE: Overpaid?
By web2dot0 on 1/13/2014 6:20:09 PM , Rating: 2
Google nut hugging much?

You make it sound like Apple is Dr. Evil and Google is Austin Powers. It's so far from the truth. It's not even funny.

Acquiring companies all over the places is a form of anti-competition. Buy them before they get big. Thus, no more competition. Get it?

I'm not saying Google did anything wrong, but it's absurd to think that buying whack load of companies is great for the economy. It's not.

Here's a good analogy. It's like professional sports. Small market teams with low budgets rely on good draft picks and good scouts to find talent before they become too expensive. Once you hone them into stars, they leave for big market teams because there's more $$$$. How's that fare for the teams that discovered them only to have to shipped to bunch of rich teams?
Do you see how that's anti-competition?


RE: Overpaid?
By Jeffk464 on 1/13/2014 6:29:13 PM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't have mind seeing Nest stay independent but they seemed to be moving to slow.


RE: Overpaid?
By Argon18 on 1/15/2014 4:35:54 PM , Rating: 2
"I wouldn't have mind seeing Nest stay independent but they seemed to be moving to slow. "

Huh? Too slow for what? It's a freaking thermostat, not a cell phone that you replace every 2 years. When's the last time you replaced your thermostat? Mine is ~26 years old, it's probably older than you are.


RE: Overpaid?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/13/2014 6:58:38 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Acquiring companies all over the places is a form of anti-competition. Buy them before they get big. Thus, no more competition. Get it?


Yes Google was obviously threatened by people who make a THERMOSTAT! That's really cutting into their profits, great point...

dumbass!

quote:
I'm not saying Google did anything wrong, but it's absurd to think that buying whack load of companies is great for the economy. It's not.


I see it as neither being good or bad. What I DON'T see is you making a compelling argument for how it's "bad" for the economy.


RE: Overpaid?
By rsmech on 1/13/2014 9:15:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What I DON'T see is you making a compelling argument for how it's "bad" for the economy.


Have you heard of GM, AIG, the Banking industry. It's this new notion "to big to fail".

This idea is wrong in my opinion, if they fail break them up, sell off assets. This is the potential problem.


RE: Overpaid?
By amanojaku on 1/13/2014 9:55:53 PM , Rating: 2
How does being big make a company bad? GM, AIG, etc... were individual companies that were bad. Companies that wasted money, falsified records, bribed, er, donated to campaigns for political favors, etc... Whole industries are not bad. There are many things that just can't be done with a small company. Global operations is one of them.

You mentioned banks. You have to pay fees to use another bank's ATM. If you think things are bad now, what with having to travel 10-15 minutes to find a local branch, imagine if you lived and banked in New Jersey, but worked in New York. You'd be pissed having to pay a fee every time you bought breakfast and lunch with a card, because your bank only has a few branches in your home town. And forget using a card on vacation!

Or what about airlines? There would be a lot more connecting flights! You know, because Delta only services the Northeast, while Southwest services the... Southwest...

And forget pharmaceutical research. We'll find a cure for cancer with a 10 million dollar budget, right? That buys medication for, what, 40, 50 patient trials?


RE: Overpaid?
By rsmech on 1/14/2014 12:23:03 AM , Rating: 2
They were example, do you need a bigger list to get the point. I didn't say they were bad you assumed. Did you finish reading and see I said "to big to fail" not bad company.

Where did I say whole industries were bad? With the first examples I gave I was implying when I said banks the fact that the feds wouldn't let the bigger banks fail they merged. I wasn't implying I cared where you ate lunch.

With airline's are you suggesting that only one airline would be best because they would go everywhere?

Speaking of cancer when a drug becomes genetic the big companies will quite making the drug. That's why a few years ago in the southwest there was a big shortage of cancer treatment drugs. They were for pain management. Or when the big companies pay smaller one not to manufacture a genetic so prices stay high.

How do you like your phone carrier? Are you saying just AT&T or Verizon are all we need. Maybe satellite TV should have been bought out by cable years ago so there was no competition. Netflix should have sold out, they suck.

There are pros and cons both ways. Less competition and larger companies' allows for collusion. How many oil companies' are there? Why when one has refinery maintenance all gas prices rise? You would think if your competition had production issues you could keep your price the same and steal some business. If there were more competing companies customers would see more price wars. AT%T and Verizon aren't making big changes because of each other. It's t-mobile and sprint that's causing competition.


RE: Overpaid?
By Argon18 on 1/15/2014 4:33:35 PM , Rating: 2
"Google nut hugging much?"

I'm not sure who's post you meant to reply to. Certainly not mine. I'm with you 100% on the anti-competitive tactics that all the big players are using to stifle competition, especially Microsoft, Apple, and Google.


RE: Overpaid?
By troysavary on 1/13/2014 7:22:37 PM , Rating: 3
I'm sure that Google could have developed the tech for less than 3.2b, but if they want it now, I guess it isn't really much money to them.


RE: Overpaid?
By KoolAidMan1 on 1/13/2014 9:25:38 PM , Rating: 2
This is dumping of cash before their next earnings call. The timing and the amount aren't a total coincidence.


RE: Overpaid?
By inighthawki on 1/13/2014 9:12:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Queue up the spying jokes, but you know if Google does this it will be done right.

Why is that exactly? Google is pretty much the second worst upholder of user privacy in the industry, right under facebook. I would be more comfortable with just about anyone else doing this. Apple, Microsoft, some random OEM, you name it.


RE: Overpaid?
By KoolAidMan1 on 1/13/2014 9:49:45 PM , Rating: 2
This is predictable because these love/hate things with tech companies always go in cycles, but I'm still enjoying this total Google backlash. I remember when Google was considered the Mother Theresa of companies and was the golden child that could do no wrong. This was despite so many of their core products being in perpetual stages of beta or brokenness, and as you said some of the most anti-user policies out there.

This was only 2 years ago, now they're as loathed as Comcast.


RE: Overpaid?
By Spuke on 1/13/2014 11:22:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This was only 2 years ago, now they're as loathed as Comcast.
Only by the two or three people here.


RE: Overpaid?
By KoolAidMan1 on 1/14/14, Rating: 0
RE: Overpaid?
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/14/2014 8:37:43 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
but the real world has reacted very differently.
Most of the real world, they don't give 2 shits...


RE: Overpaid?
By inighthawki on 1/14/2014 11:27:52 AM , Rating: 2
I have to disagree. Overall my impression is that google is still rather well liked.


RE: Overpaid?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/14/2014 2:33:17 PM , Rating: 2
Yes because most people aren't complete idiots, and understand there's no such thing as a free lunch.

You guys being haters are silly, it's funny you think you speak for any significant portion of educated people.

Meanwhile in the real world, Google is as popular as ever and the services they provide are ubiquitous for all intents and purposes.

I just really don't understand you haters. Google doesn't take private information (where you go online has NEVER been private). They don't get hacked and lose your credit card information to identify thieves. They don't install malicious software on your machines like Sony.

You guys are just silly. You can't even explain in rational terms what the problem is, or what Google did to you.

Google bought Nest. Big fuc*ing deal!


RE: Overpaid?
By inighthawki on 1/14/2014 2:43:24 PM , Rating: 3
When did I say that I hated Google? And did I not just back you up with my statement that they are relatively well liked?

quote:
Google doesn't take private information (where you go online has NEVER been private)

You are clueless. Every personal detail in your account info and every move you make online is tracked and sold to third parties by Google.

quote:
They don't get hacked and lose your credit card information to identify thieves.

Huh? Just cause it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't. It can happen to anyone. Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, Yahoo, etc. Not to mention, getting hacked doesn't make you bad. It's not like the companies who have been hacked "did it on purpose"

quote:
You guys are just silly. You can't even explain in rational terms what the problem is, or what Google did to you.

Google didn't do anything to me. I use gmail as my primary account. I have no qualms with Android. I've used google docs to collaborate with people. You are just being completely ignorant to what Google does with your information. Comparatively to most companies, their privacy policies are a complete joke.


RE: Overpaid?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/14/2014 2:55:39 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Every personal detail in your account info and every move you make online is tracked and sold to third parties by Google.


That is simply not true. Google does NOT sit there and track "every move you make" online. My god the hyperbole involved anytime Google is discussed is amazing.

Google is NOT the NSA, no matter how much you fools want them to be.

quote:
Comparatively to most companies, their privacy policies are a complete joke.


Do you even understand that you willingly agree to these policies so Google can provide you free services?

I have to believe if you honestly felt your "privacy" was at stake, you wouldn't use Gmail and Android. I wouldn't either. However the information Google requires to provide me these services is so benign, nobody even cares.

Like others, you are just throwing around the word "privacy" whether it even applies or not. It doesn't honestly apply here. Where you go and what you do online has never been considered "private" information. The Internet is not your own personal anonymity zone and it never has been.


RE: Overpaid?
By inighthawki on 1/14/2014 3:58:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Like others, you are just throwing around the word "privacy" whether it even applies or not

It does, the difference is I don't actually care. I know what I'm agreeing to when I accept it.

I think you are taking me way out of context.


RE: Overpaid?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/14/2014 5:16:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I think you are taking me way out of context.


Then I appologize.

So help me understand what you mean. Your online activities aren't private generally. We've known this since the WWW went live.

So how does Google invade your privacy? If they were hacking into your computer or something, or breaking encryption, or any number of things to actively violate your privacy I would agree.

By this logic, isn't your ISP also violating your privacy? They log everything you do online as well. And unlike Google, you are directly paying them to do it.

You see I enjoy a dialogue on this stuff, it's an important discussion to have. By just throwing out "omg Google spies they worst than NSA!!!" (not saying YOU are doing this) is just idiotic and getting tiresome.


RE: Overpaid?
By inighthawki on 1/14/2014 6:12:13 PM , Rating: 2
Nono they don't spy on you, of course not. They don't have malicious activity or anything like that.

What I mean is all the information Google has on you is something they sell. Profile information, cookies and web tracking stats, context from scanning for keywords in emails. They turn around and sell all of this information to advertisers. Many companies have this information, they just don't all sell it off like Google does.

But having a home automation system built by Google and connected to your house provides Google with more of this same information. They could see that you often have your thermostat set to high temperatures. As an example, they could sell your information, such as name, location, birthday, temperature preference, etc, to an advertiser who targets vacationing advertisements. Suddenly around your birthday, you are getting a bunch of advertisements about vacations to the Bahamas.

Many other companies can also obtain this information, but not all of them are so open with selling their user's data this way. Google and Facebook have been shown to be pretty much the top two for selling their users' data.


RE: Overpaid?
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 1/13/2014 5:06:33 PM , Rating: 2
As someone who has two Nest thermostats (one upstairs, one downstairs), I'd say they're worth every penny that Google paid.

I paid $179 each for mine (first generation units), and I've already recouped the costs of one of them in energy savings in the first year.

Now what Google will do with them... i dunno. I'm kinda worried.


RE: Overpaid?
By amanojaku on 1/13/2014 5:37:25 PM , Rating: 2
Considering Nest was founded in 2010, launched its first product in 2011, got onto Amazon and into Canada in 2012, and into the UK in 2013... Nest clearly has global appeal and growth potential. My guess is that since this is an all cash deal, Nest will likely use the money to ramp up its international presence. There are additional products to develop, as well...

Then there's the fact that it's sold in Apple stores. I'm guessing that relationship won't last too long, with Apple loosing out on a valuable seller with no apparent competitor. Nice way to stick it to Apple's bottom line, taking away its hardware sales revenue. I'm sure Apple doesn't sell enough Nests to swim in the cash today, but considering Nest was in the process of clearing international testing certifications, there was potential for growth.

As to Google... As former VMware, I'm sick of what EMC's done to the place. EMC promised to leave VMware alone, only to replace the CEO with an EMC VP, causing her husband and chief scientist to resign. It was a chain reaction, and changed that place significantly. Google promises to leave Nest alone, same as it has for Motorola, but Google already replaced Motorola's CEO with a Google VP.


RE: Overpaid?
By troysavary on 1/13/2014 7:25:37 PM , Rating: 2
I was not aware that Nest was sold in Apple stores. Now the price makes more sense. It was probably worth it to Google just to stick it to Apple.


RE: Overpaid?
By Tony Swash on 1/14/2014 2:44:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Nice way to stick it to Apple's bottom line, taking away its hardware sales revenue.


That made me spit my tea on to the desk. What proportion of Apple's 'bottom line' do you think Nest saes contributed? Here's a hint the amount starts with a decimal point which is followed by a lot, really a lot, of zeros.


RE: Overpaid?
By KoolAidMan1 on 1/13/2014 5:57:21 PM , Rating: 4
At best I expect everything good about NEST to be slowly destroyed before their products are discontinued in several years and all of their data is hoovered into the Googleplex. It will join Picnik, Bump, Flock, Reader, Knol, Aardvark, Dodgeball, Meebo, Powermeter, and many other useful/awesome acquired services in the dustbin.

At worst I expect it to live on as a product with ruined usability that tracks your energy usage for the benefit of Google and whoever they are selling your data to. I can't believe I'm saying this but forget the obvious (and logical) scenario where Apple bought them, I'd even prefer it if good old ultra-proprietary Microsoft bought them.

Forget either company though, I'd have liked to have seen Nest continue to grow and develop a full portfolio of products on their own rather than being scooped up and stifled by any of the existing tech empires. They will not flourish under another company no matter who they are. Fadell isn't going to stick around either, he's a serial entrepreneur and will leave like he always has in a few years.


RE: Overpaid?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/13/2014 7:11:34 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I'd even prefer it if good old ultra-proprietary Microsoft bought them.


Ewwww! Nest with Bing search? No thank you :P

quote:
They will not flourish under another company no matter who they are.


Why would Google buy Nest to stifle them? They weren't competing with Google in any way, shape or form.

Too much doom and gloom in your post with nothing but conjecture and speculation behind it.

Google bought Motorola, and last time I checked they're doing okay and making good products.

quote:
It will join Picnik, Bump, Flock, Reader, Knol, Aardvark, Dodgeball, Meebo, Powermeter, and many other useful/awesome acquired services in the dustbin.


Uhhh a lot of these acquisitions were for products already floundering or behind the times. The idea that they would all be thriving today if not for Google is asinine.


RE: Overpaid?
By KoolAidMan1 on 1/13/2014 9:41:26 PM , Rating: 3
Historically, small prodigious companies do anything but accelerate once acquired by a tech giant. A startup structure does not flourish under a big company. Look at all of the above examples. Even very popular and useful services like Reader, killed by Google. If it isn't killed by Google it gets ruined over time (Youtube, Maps), gets G+ integration, or both. I hope they don't figure out a way to spoil Chrome.

And I take back what I said about Microsoft, they killed the hell out of the Kin and still can't figure anything out with Surface and Windows. Nest might have been worse off there. Apple is stingy with acquisitions but at least they have the focus and decency to only do companies that strengthen their own specific products (semi-conductors, music streaming) rather than buying companies just to kill or ruin their product a few years later.

Losing Picnik sucked. That was an awesome service that was bought out for big money, eventually swept under the rug by Google, and where the founders left to make another similar product on their own soon after. Rinse and repeat.

People are unhappy because a very focused company just got conglomo'd. If they needed cash to accelerate R&D or production they would have done an IPO or raised a couple more hundred million dollars.

They got acquired and now their plans are no longer their own.


RE: Overpaid?
By HoosierEngineer5 on 1/15/2014 10:23:26 AM , Rating: 2
Forgot SageTV.


RE: Overpaid?
By rsmech on 1/13/2014 6:33:43 PM , Rating: 2
Just wait till the day they buy a medical company that makes ultrasound equipment. The tracking will start before your even born. In the US we don't care much for privacy.


RE: Overpaid?
By Dr of crap on 1/15/2014 1:07:45 PM , Rating: 2
Really, I paid about $30 for my set back thermostat, 20 years ago, has settings for the week and weekends separately, and has 4 settings per day.

So hmmm, I paid only 15% of your over priced thing, so I have saved even more!

Sorry, I just don't understand how this Nest is so much better than a standard set back for under $50.


RE: Overpaid?
By Jeffk464 on 1/13/2014 6:20:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Was Nest worth even a fraction of that


Yeah, nest is a great start for home automation with very good software all around. Hopefully Google and the nest team will be able to bring around a great complete home automation product.


RE: Overpaid?
By conq on 1/14/2014 12:41:39 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Was Nest worth even a fraction of that?

I'd like to think not but if they're hauling that much product maybe they are?

Personally I think the nest is a bit overhyped. At the end of the day it adds only a fraction of autonomy over a standard 7 day programmable. Most times someone is still home even if I leave the house.


I don't understand
By Murloc on 1/13/2014 5:33:01 PM , Rating: 2
How is that thing supposed to work? I was never able to understand it.
My radiators have a handle with a built-in thermostat that I can turn to regulate the flow of hot water.
How do I go from there to having this thing attached to the wall and controlling the temp in the room?




RE: I don't understand
By Reclaimer77 on 1/13/2014 5:34:01 PM , Rating: 1
lol radiators? Wtf do you live, Transylvania??


RE: I don't understand
By Egglick on 1/13/2014 7:11:57 PM , Rating: 2
Apparently you've never been to any major city built before 1950.


RE: I don't understand
By Reclaimer77 on 1/13/2014 7:18:15 PM , Rating: 2
It was a joke. I know what radiators are. I assumed the OP was joking too.


RE: I don't understand
By troysavary on 1/13/2014 7:29:56 PM , Rating: 2
Hot water heating is very common. I know you don't live in a particularly cold place, so I wouldn't expect you to know this, but it is a great way to heat.


RE: I don't understand
By Reclaimer77 on 1/13/2014 7:34:47 PM , Rating: 2
Could you be more condescending?

The joke was about a Nest thermostat for a radiator. Not the use of a radiator itself.

Unless you thought he was being serious? I kinda doubt it.

quote:
I know you don't live in a particularly cold place, so I wouldn't expect you to know this


Wtf is THAT supposed to mean?

You know what, I don't care. Shut up and go away.


RE: I don't understand
By troysavary on 1/14/2014 8:36:04 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, all the -1's you are getting lately are really making you touchy. That wasn't meant to be condescending. That was meant to let you know that radiators are actually very common. It isn't my fault your fragile ego took it as an insult.


RE: I don't understand
By SunLord on 1/13/2014 5:53:10 PM , Rating: 2
This is meant for people living in modern homes built in the last 40-50 years that have central heating and cooling


RE: I don't understand
By Jeffk464 on 1/13/2014 6:33:24 PM , Rating: 2
Yup, he is suppose to have Igor adjusting the valves for him. :)


RE: I don't understand
By troysavary on 1/14/2014 9:02:42 AM , Rating: 2
Most modern hot water heating systems control the flow of hot water automatically. It has been a long time since I have seen one with individually controlled valves on each radiator.


Nest Now NSA approved!
By michal1980 on 1/13/2014 6:36:25 PM , Rating: 2
all your house are belong to us




By Tony Swash on 1/14/2014 12:21:36 PM , Rating: 2
http://www.freshdv.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/...

Actually I don't think the Nest acquisition is about data gathering, I just couldn't resist the joke. I think Gruber's analysis makes more sense.

http://daringfireball.net/2014/01/googles_acquisit...




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