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Special Service Police Sedan is aimed detectives and administrators

The truth is not every law enforcement officer needs a vehicle that is pursuit rated. For some administrative types or detectives, what they really need is a vehicle that is fuel-efficient to help reduce fuel expenses for the department. All of Ford's past police vehicles were specifically pursuit rated, including its new batch of EcoBoost-powered interceptor vehicles.

Ford has announced that after requests from various law enforcement agencies it has created a new Special Service Police Sedan featuring a 2.0-liter EcoBoost engine that promises best-in-class fuel efficiency. Ford says that it specifically designed the vehicle to meet the needs of detectives, administrators, campus police, and law enforcement agencies looking for the best fuel efficiency possible.

Even though the 2.0-liter EcoBoost is a small engine, it still produces 240 hp and 270 pound-foot of torque. Ford says that in law enforcement trim the vehicle will be able to achieve 30 mpg or better in EPA highway ratings. The engine is mated with a standard six-speed automatic transmission.


The fuel savings potential is impressive for departments switching from the aging 4.6-liter V8 Crowd Victoria which is rated for only 17 MPG combined.

“Not every police officer needs a pursuit-rated vehicle,” said Jonathan Honeycutt, Ford police marketing manager. “As agencies look to replace older, V8-equipped cruisers with more efficient cars, Ford is at the ready with the most fuel-efficient – yet still very capable – full-size police vehicle.”

Ford says that while being more fuel efficient, the new special service vehicle will have all the safety and durability features the Ford uses in its existing interceptor sedans.

Source: Ford



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About as powerful as the old crown vic anyway
By DanNeely on 9/20/2013 9:56:12 AM , Rating: 5
The 2011 Crown Vic interceptor did 250HP and 285 ftlb of torque; barely less than the 240/270 of this model. It is however a major downgrade from Ford's current interceptor whose V6 does 365/350.

If the intend was to give maximum fuel savings to people who don't need to drive really fast they could've used an even smaller engine.




RE: About as powerful as the old crown vic anyway
By bug77 on 9/20/2013 10:32:26 AM , Rating: 2
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If the intend was to give maximum fuel savings to people who don't need to drive really fast they could've used an even smaller engine.


I don't know, if all the engine can muster is 30mpg highway, the car itself must be pretty heavy.


By 91TTZ on 9/20/2013 10:48:50 AM , Rating: 2
I agree. I mean the V6 Camaro gets 30 mpg and it makes 323 HP. It's not a light car, it's a tank.


RE: About as powerful as the old crown vic anyway
By Samus on 9/20/2013 11:15:54 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly. Putting in a 1.6L may even have negative returns on a 4500lb vehicle.

The 4-cylinder Ford Rangers previously had negligible fuel savings over their small V6 counterparts, and we've noticed almost no difference in fuel economy in our 2012 V6 3.0l Escape over our previous 2010 I4 2.5l Escape. Both seem to get 24MPG mixed driving as both vehicles are about the same weight and both are equally not aerodynamic. However, after driving the V6, it felt like the right engine for the vehicle since the I4 always felt overloaded as soon as you had a passenger or any cargo in the Escape. The V6 was actually what sold us on trading the old one in, because the I4 made utility part non-existent.


By JediJeb on 9/20/2013 4:44:27 PM , Rating: 2
I had the same experience with the 2.3L in my 79 Mustang. It got about 22mpg while most of the 5.0L Mustangs of that era got 20-25mpg. The car itself weighed about 3400 pounds, so it was struggling to move it with such a small engine(88hp at the time I believe).


RE: About as powerful as the old crown vic anyway
By FITCamaro on 9/20/2013 11:19:47 AM , Rating: 3
Police vehicles are a lot heavier than the car is normally.


RE: About as powerful as the old crown vic anyway
By amanojaku on 9/20/2013 11:54:10 AM , Rating: 3
No kidding. It has a gross vehicle weight of 5,700lbs. Subtract the cargo capacity of 400lbs and that leaves 5,300lbs. If I read the brochure correctly, it also has an internal passenger payload of 800lbs or 900lbs (both numbers given in documentation). With seating for five people, that's an average of 180lbs per person. So the vehicle weight is around 4,500lbs-4,600lbs.

Where does all that weight come from? All-wheel drive (FF on one model), 75-mph rear-impact protection, bullet-resistant armor, various passenger protections (airbags all over the place, anti-intrusion bars, etc...), and... Ford Sync and MyFord Touch hardware.

http://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/models/#...


RE: About as powerful as the old crown vic anyway
By bug77 on 9/20/2013 12:35:50 PM , Rating: 2
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With seating for five people...


I was trying to think of a situation of a police car carrying 5 passengers and the first image that came to mind was that of five detectives carpooling.


By DanNeely on 9/20/2013 1:55:23 PM , Rating: 2
Two officers up front, combined with a big bust and 3 prisoners in the back because they don't have enough cars available to spread them out.


By Camikazi on 9/20/2013 10:48:14 PM , Rating: 3
Criminals are technically people so I think they are included in that 5 passenger quote.


By Reclaimer77 on 9/22/2013 2:35:36 PM , Rating: 2
Talk about a police state. I think it's ridiculous that every cop in America apparently needs a massively overpowered armored tank to drive around in for general use. I mean give me a break! What percentage of police officers are actually involved in high speed chases where they need to physically ram people off the road? Hardly any! Yet every police car you see is stupidly overbuilt, complete with that intimidating front "push bar" bolted onto the front end for NO REASON. Nothing says "protect and serve" more than "fu#k you, I'll ram you with my armored tank!!"

I know America is portrayed as Old Detroit from the 1980's Robocop movies, but per-capita our crime isn't that bad. We're certainly NOT living in a warzone. In these times of Government bloat and abuse, it's time to question everything. Do cops really need high tech military-grade armored behemoths??


By drewsup on 9/22/2013 5:41:39 PM , Rating: 3
obligatorily Blues Brothers quote

"It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks"

yup, i bet it weighs more!


By marvdmartian on 9/23/2013 8:11:45 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, once you add the weight of the radio and other equipment that a typical cop car carries, you're killing the mileage.

Years ago, when the California Highway Patrol was using the 5.0 liter Mustangs for interceptors, I had a chance to talk to one of their patrolmen who drove one. He said that in order to lighten up the car, they took out the "comfy" back seat, and replaced it with a cheap hard plastic seat (think fast food restaurant seating). It's not like they ever used those cars to transport prisoners, so it was a good weight tradeoff.


By zephyrprime on 9/20/2013 12:02:47 PM , Rating: 2
and the crown victoria weighed a lot more too so this thing is probably a lot speedier in real life.


By amanojaku on 9/20/2013 12:17:52 PM , Rating: 3
That's not what I read. The Crown Victoria Police Interceptor weighed anywhere from 3900lbs to 4400lbs, depending on the model. It's top speed ranged from 120mph to 150mph. The new Interceptor Sedan has a top speed of 131mph or 148mph, again, depending on the model.


By Jeffk464 on 9/21/2013 1:07:07 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
The 2011 Crown Vic interceptor did 250HP and 285 ftlb of torque; barely less than the 240/270 of this model.


The crown vic needs to be put out to pasture. The clue was that the only sales they could get were to taxi companies and police departments.


By Jeffk464 on 9/21/2013 1:26:31 AM , Rating: 2
What police departments need is a Dodge charger with the engine out of the new corvette.


By sorry dog on 9/22/2013 11:15:08 PM , Rating: 2
When you get down to it... a cruiser's pursuit capabilities should be on the lower end of priorities. One of the most important things is that the front seats and interior have enough room to fit all the gadgets that most departments have now, have enough room to fit a potentially large officer that is wearing a large utility belt with cuffs/gun/radio/etc, and it not be F16 tight so that the officer can enter and exit quickly enough to make fans of Cops proud.

I've riden in an Impala on patrol and it can be quite tight.... especially after a few years of donuts. I hear the Dodge is even worse.


I have an 05 P71 Intercerptor.
By SilthDraeth on 9/20/2013 9:58:48 AM , Rating: 2
On a recent trip to the Grand Canyon, and back home, I achieved 27mpg highway. I know that isn't ground breaking. And maybe 17 combined is all I get. But I am pretty sure I average 20 in the city. Which I think would put my combined somewhere around 23/24 mpg.

Oh yeah, Arizona highways, also, a good bit of my driving and receiving 27mpg was cruising at 75/80 mph.

Just food for thought about the stated vs actual mpg ratings.

Other than that, I am interested in these new Interceptors linked in this thread. Once departments have them en mass they should start showing up on auctions 5 to 7 years down the road.




By Masospaghetti on 9/20/2013 10:25:45 AM , Rating: 2
Have to compare EPA ratings to EPA ratings. It's not useful to compare personal results with government standards.

2005 Crown Vic Police Interceptor: EPA rated 14/20 mpg

If you can get 27 mpg in that, I would assume you could get 37 mpg in the new one.


By protomech on 9/20/2013 10:26:40 AM , Rating: 2
I wonder what you're doing differently from fuelly users, who typically report 18-20 mpg.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/crown%20victoria


RE: I have an 05 P71 Intercerptor.
By FITCamaro on 9/20/2013 10:41:54 AM , Rating: 2
Are you talking about a former police vehicle? Or an actual still in service police vehicle? If the latter, why the heck are you using a police vehicle for personal use?

I'm guessing its the latter though. And that means your car is a few hundred pounds lighter than it was when in police trim. There is a lot of extra weight in police vehicles.

30 mpg out of one is pretty good.


By SilthDraeth on 9/20/2013 4:17:04 PM , Rating: 2
Out of service police vehicle. Obviously some of the equipment has been removed, like the prisoner cage. But I still have stab plates.

Anyways, as to the question, of what I am doing differently?

I am not sure, I haven't read the link provided above. However, I drive very conservatively most the time. I accelerate very slowly, decelerate quite a bit, so even in town driving I ease into all stops. Care engine rarely goes above idle rpm, which can be done if you barely depress the accelerator, and most around town driving can be down by only depressing slightly to get up to speed, then letting off accelerator completely.

When on the highway, I don't depress the accelerator more when climbing hills, so my speed often drops down to around 50 on the highway instead of 75, but heck, sit in the truck lane and it isn't a problem and I don't pay more for it.


RE: I have an 05 P71 Intercerptor.
By Jeffk464 on 9/21/2013 1:14:27 AM , Rating: 2
Why would you want an old police car? I can't imagine the amount of puke and other bodily fluids that have been left in them. Plus, I'm sure they get treated like rental cars by the cops driving them.


By 91TTZ on 9/20/2013 10:28:56 AM , Rating: 3
Ford is claiming that the fuel economy increase is the result of their 2 liter turbocharged ecoboost engine. But if you've noticed lately, even larger non-turbocharged engines are getting big boosts in fuel economy. Much of it is due to direct injection and the higher compression ratio that it enables.

Remember when Ford said that their pickup truck was able to gain efficiency by switching from their big V8 to their smaller turbo V6? Well Chevy's truck stuck with the V8 and it gets better fuel economy than Ford's turbo V6.

I love turbos but they don't really help with fuel economy. The use of forced induction requires that you run a lower compression ratio than a naturally aspirated engine, and this lower compression ratio reduces efficiency. It's also a slight restriction in the exhaust stream.

If you compare a small turbocharged engine to a larger naturally aspirated engine that produces the same power you'll find that fuel economy is nearly identical, and may even favor the larger engine since it's able to cruise on the highway at a very low RPM.




By FITCamaro on 9/20/2013 11:27:59 AM , Rating: 3
It's also them spending tons of money to lighten everything they can and reduce all friction possible in things like the transmission. They're also moving to lighter and lighter weight oils which I worry will compromise longevity.


By Stiggalicious on 9/23/2013 11:54:57 AM , Rating: 2
Just curious, why will lighter weight oils hurt longevity?


By Stiggalicious on 9/23/2013 11:53:52 AM , Rating: 2
Turbocharged engines have a lower compression ratio upfront, but when you account for the boost pressure from the turbo (after intercooling), you have a much higher effective compression ratio. Add in direct injection, and you have an ultra-lean-burning, high compression ratio, high-power engine.


not another cop car!!
By Captain Awesome on 9/20/2013 12:11:40 PM , Rating: 2
I can't handle another model of police car to watch out for, it's bad enough having to look out for crown victorias, dodge chargers, chevy impalas, and big black stealth SUVs.




RE: not another cop car!!
By FITCamaro on 9/20/2013 1:07:18 PM , Rating: 2
There's a lot more types of vehicles around here that are unmarked.


RE: not another cop car!!
By Jeffk464 on 9/21/2013 1:19:03 AM , Rating: 2
Chevy impala, what a joke. They probably can't keep pace with a Honda civic.


RE: not another cop car!!
By Jeffk464 on 9/21/2013 1:20:03 AM , Rating: 2
Its almost like police departments just get whatever car models companies can't manage to sell to the public.


RE: not another cop car!!
By Alexvrb on 9/22/2013 12:58:38 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah it's only got 302HP out of an 87 octane NA 3.6L, clearly it's outclassed by a pedestrian Civic. :/ It's also comparatively lighter, and less expensive than the other police cruisers. Gets pretty decent mileage too for a cruiser. Great for city cops and unmarked cars.

Now, for suburban and rural use, the Caprice PPV V8 and Charger V8 are both great.


Where is that diesel police car?
By Lord 666 on 9/20/2013 11:13:29 AM , Rating: 2
Makes logistical and performance sense. Hope it actually sees the light of day.




By FITCamaro on 9/20/2013 11:28:36 AM , Rating: 2
Actually yeah a diesel police car makes a lot of sense. But we can't have them dirty diesels running around can we?


By superstition on 9/21/2013 12:55:29 AM , Rating: 2
Police cars often idle a lot, which would probably clog the particle filter.

A hybrid, though, that switches to electricity when idling might take care of that problem.


Really, 2.0L in a Taurus? Thank CAFE
By Murphy9090 on 9/21/2013 12:57:16 AM , Rating: 1
Seriously, the 2.0L 4 can no way shape or form be enough engine for a Police anything. The engine is designed to look amazing to the EPA during mileage testing. These smaller "Eco-boost" engines have been set to maximize the EPA test figures while struggling in day to day actual usage. Read through the testing of the Fusion with a 1.6L Eco-boost engine. Yes the car magazines beat their test mules to death. But just take a quick glance at their gas mileage and it is well below the EPA ratings. Ford has already been caught padding the stats along with others to help their CAFE rating. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014241278873248...




RE: Really, 2.0L in a Taurus? Thank CAFE
By Jeffk464 on 9/21/2013 1:22:30 AM , Rating: 2
Read the reviews of the turbo 4 in the 2013 BMW 3 series. When done right a turbo 4 can be down right awesome.


By Spuke on 10/1/2013 9:52:45 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Read the reviews of the turbo 4 in the 2013 BMW 3 series. When done right a turbo 4 can be down right awesome.
I have a BMW X1 with that engine and it is indeed awesome. That ZF 8 speed auto is one of the best transmissions on the planet IMO and I'm a manual fan. It's my wifes car and she gets 27 mpg but she's a lead foot. When I drive it I get 32. I asked her to slow down and she upped it to 28. LOL! I also have a DI turbo 4 in a Pontiac Solstice. It's rated at 19/28 and I get 29. My best is 33 (3 different occasions). Keep the boost low and the fuel economy soars.


fuel efficiency at 30mpg?
By milktea on 9/20/2013 2:06:38 PM , Rating: 2
why don't they go with hybrids if they wanted efficiency? the chance of roll over is also smaller with the heavier battery weight.
Is ford really behind in vehicle tech?




2 liter ecoboost
By Doug S on 10/5/2013 10:21:04 AM , Rating: 2
The best epa isn't going to equate to a police cruiser. If they return 25mpg it would be a home run.




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