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HD DVD unable to bare Children of Men

Children of Men, one of last year’s best films and one of this year’s most anticipated HD DVD exclusives has hit a snag when played on various HD DVD players, perhaps most notably on the Xbox 360 add-on. According to High-Def Digest, some Xbox 360 HD DVD owners are experiencing issues where Children of Men refuses to play, even after trying multiple, retail exchanged copies of the movie.

The Digest conducted a test of their own, and found the same results that users reported – the disc did not work after attempts on two different consoles. Curiously, some users on the Web site’s forums area report no such issues with Children of Men on their Xbox 360 HD DVD players, while others report playback problems with Toshiba’s XA2, A2 and A1 standalone players.

“I think this is the most worrying thing about HD-DVD - the inconsistencies and differences that people supposedly with the same hardware and firmware get. The technology just doesn't seem ready for prime time yet,” said Ian Smith, HD DVD blogger and High-Def Digest forum participant. “It seems like we are guinea pigs and the hardware/software manufacturers don't know what Quality Assurance is. It's not as if there are many players out there that need to be tested!”

For some users, Children of Men will play, but will either eventually freeze or encounter playback issues, such as the inability to fast forward. Those who were unable to finish the movie in high definition were forced to flip the combo disc over to continue the film on the standard definition DVD side.

Neither Microsoft nor Universal was available for comment at time of publication.



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BLU Ray will win this war by end of the year
By sapiens74 on 4/2/2007 6:41:43 PM , Rating: 1
HD DVD cannot keep up with releases and with debacles like this, we will see a very short lifespan.

Glad I sold mine off, as I would have been unhappy not being able to play a movie that I had purchased.




By masher2 (blog) on 4/2/2007 6:56:03 PM , Rating: 2
You're reading far too much into this. Blu Ray is having more than its share of problems as well...case in point, the release of The Matrix, available soon on HD-DVD, but delayed on Blu Ray due to BD authoring problems.


By theflux on 4/2/2007 7:06:14 PM , Rating: 2
Technically, I think the problem is not the authoring, but the implementation (or more correctly, lack thereof) of BD-Java. BD-Java is the equivalent to HD-DVD's HDi, which is used for thinks like the In Movie Experience (IME).


RE: BLU Ray will win this war by end of the year
By sapiens74 on 4/2/2007 8:04:37 PM , Rating: 3
Authoring problems at least are fixed before it gets to me. I don't mind waiting for a release as long as it works when I purchase it


By masher2 (blog) on 4/2/2007 9:01:32 PM , Rating: 4
Sorry, but one flawed movie does not a failed format make. All the early Blu Ray releases had abysmal image quality compared to HD-DVD...they worked through that problem without a hitch, and it hardly hurt them.


RE: BLU Ray will win this war by end of the year
By Anh Huynh on 4/2/2007 6:58:25 PM , Rating: 1
It's only the 360 HD DVD add-on if I recall. I had the same problem. The movie works fine in my Toshiba HD-A2.


RE: BLU Ray will win this war by end of the year
By Goty on 4/2/2007 8:11:39 PM , Rating: 2
Did you even read the article?


By Anh Huynh on 4/2/2007 9:04:43 PM , Rating: 2
If you check AVS Forum its mostly the 360 HD DVD add-on. But that might have been fixed now with the latest update. The latest Toshiba firmware fixed compatibility issues as well.


Matrix
By MScrip on 4/2/2007 10:50:27 PM , Rating: 2
Remember when the test of a DVD player was if it could play the Matrix DVD?

Ah, those were the days!




RE: Matrix
By Lazarus Dark on 4/3/2007 6:27:12 AM , Rating: 2
huh? I never heard of anyone having trouble playing any dvd, including the matrix. What players had trouble with it and why?


RE: Matrix
By danBH on 4/6/2007 2:37:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
huh? I never heard of anyone having trouble playing any dvd, including the matrix. What players had trouble with it and why?


How short memories are...

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.video.dvd.playe...


RE: Matrix
By FNG on 4/3/2007 7:42:46 AM , Rating: 2
I remember The Matrix being the test of a surround sound system. In fact, I went out the day after buying The Matrix on DVD and bought another surround sound system after selling my old one off a year prior.


RE: Matrix
By BCanR2D2 on 4/3/2007 8:43:22 AM , Rating: 2
The Matrix was one of the better mastered DVD's for picture and sound quality, along with others such as True Lies, The Fifth Element and one or two others.

Just before we get too involved into the format wars. HD-DVD will always have a market whilst Sony wont let the adult industry author discs to Blu-Ray.


RE: Matrix
By rykerabel on 4/5/2007 10:08:54 AM , Rating: 2
False, there are pleanty of Adult titles on BR.


A patch fixed mine
By bisoy on 4/2/2007 7:00:42 PM , Rating: 2
I initially had this problem using my XBOX HD-DVD addon, but after hooking it up on-line it downloaded a patch and I never had a problem after that.




RE: A patch fixed mine
By MattCoz on 4/2/2007 7:28:46 PM , Rating: 2
Is this patch available from their website?


RE: A patch fixed mine
By bisoy on 4/2/2007 7:35:01 PM , Rating: 3
It's automatic. Make sure you are connected online. Pop-in the disc and press play. It will then tell you that an update is available online, just install it and then off you go.

At least this is what happend to mine.


never heard of QA huh...
By Saist on 4/3/2007 12:09:42 AM , Rating: 2
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=...

well, if the movie industry is anything like the games industry, the QA guys are the worst paid of the bunch. Draw your own conclusions.




RE: never heard of QA huh...
By ted61 on 4/3/2007 10:24:34 AM , Rating: 2
Reading that article really makes me appreciate the staff here a Dailytech. Next time I feel like complaining about a run on sentence or a few words missing from the sentence, I will go to that link.


RE: never heard of QA huh...
By mindless1 on 4/3/2007 2:00:13 PM , Rating: 2
Err, WTF does European programmers earning less have to do with DT news authors having perfect grammar? Oh I see, the article was written in text and DT news is also text.


Huh?
By enlil242 on 4/3/2007 9:12:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Children of Men, one of last year’s best films and one of this year’s most anticipated HD DVD exclusives


What? I thought this was one of the worst movies I have ever seen... ever... IMO

Not too concerned about this movie not playing on my 360. ;-)




WORKED
By spartan805 on 4/4/2007 2:12:32 AM , Rating: 2
My copy worked on my 360. Moving was ok though!




Interesting Article
By bplewis24 on 4/4/2007 11:36:08 AM , Rating: 2
http://www.gamingbits.com/content/view/1915/2/

Before I get flamed for posting this negative news (as it relates to this DT article and even makes a direct reference to the Children of Men HD-DVD issues), read through it and you'll see how it touches on the immaturity and (so far) poor implementations of both of the new formats (Blu-ray and HD-DVD) according to him. I'll quote the part that is relevant to this DT article:

quote:
Why did you guys go with Blu-Ray instead of HD-DVD?

DF: We still do have intentions of coming out with HD-DVD. There are just challenges in terms of the hardware that is out there right now, in terms of compatibility. Similar issues to the BD-J issues, but a little bit more severe. So we're sort of waiting that one out until there is a little bit more maturity. There's a couple of movies out there that aren't running particularly well on HD-DVD. Children of Men is one. The issues are the firmware implementations and the other is the development and technology. I think honestly on the HD side there's a lot more openness and availability of development documentation. I think it falls down a little bit on the firmware implementation. I think all of this would get addressed in the short term. We just have to wait it out a little bit. We don't want to be making the same headlines that Children of Men has. The HD DVD version of Dragon's Lair is about of 99% done.




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