Source: The Detroit News
quote: GM determined the fire was the result of a minor intrusion from a portion of the vehicle into a side section of the battery pack. This intrusion resulted in a small coolant leak inside the battery, approximately 50 ml or one-quarter cup of fluid.
quote: As part of NHTSA’s test procedure, the vehicle was put through a “slow roll,” where it’s rotated at 90 degree increments, holding in each position for about five minutes. During the “slow roll,” an additional one liter (about four and a quarter cups) of coolant leaked. While in the 180 degree position, which is upside down, the coolant came in contact with the printed circuit board electronics at the top of the battery pack. Three weeks later this condition, in combination with a charged battery, led to electrical activity that resulted in the post-crash fire.
quote: The Volt is an impracticle car. Far too expen$ive to be purchased by the average person or family. Regardless of it's ride, handling or fuel economy, it is far too little vehicle for the price with or without the $7500 government kickback.
quote: Volt is CHEAPER than the Average Car sold in the US in 2011.
quote: Initial purchase price is not the entire cost of owning an automobile.
quote: That is a completely false statement.
quote: Absurdly backed up by your juvenile attempt to factor in fuel prices into the purchase of an ICE vehicle.
quote: You should be trying to advocate for the Volt based on other metrics.
quote: Cars are NOT an investment.
quote: Am I advocated the Volt is a good value economically?
quote: The Volt, while very expensive initial price, is not some extremely unaffordable automobile.
quote: Given the relatively poor sales, it puzzles me why the general electorate is so desiring the CAFE regulations
quote: That's not data.
quote: By averaging everything, you lose the significance of many variables.
quote: Far too expen$ive to be purchased by the average person or family.
quote: I'm not sure we're all desiring of it. We don't have much choice. Unfortunately people knowingly or unknowingly put a radical in the White House, and these are the kinds of things that happen. Hopefully the next Administration will have the good sense to reverse many of these mistakes, including these CAFE requirements.
quote: Every poll ever done suggests a huge portion of this country aligns themselves with Conservative beliefs.
quote: I think if presented with all the facts, most Americans would NOT support CAFE.
quote: It's supposed to be the job of the media to be our watchdogs of the Government. And they have utterly failed in that role. In fact, they have abdicated it completely.
quote: I'd call these elections a form of polls.
quote: But its hard for me to understand why anyone would support CAFE...
quote: No. It's our job as Citizens to be watchdog of the government, and far too many have decided to only look out for themselves.
quote: I think claiming that votes directly mimic national ideology is a tough sell.
quote: While a vast majority of US citizens aspire to "Conservative" values in their personal life, voting history from 1945-2011 show a bias towards "Liberal" Government in the United States.
quote: I mean, 25 of the last 34 Houses have been majority Democrat.
quote: (Course, why it appears to be happening ONLY to the Volt and not any other car with batteries, I don't know...)
quote: GM is still such a huge bog/tank, that it takes forever for them to change course/update what they probably should have been updating 5 years ago when they STARTED working on the Volt.
quote: this is cutting edge tech and its hard!
quote: 1. Inferior to existing tech
quote: Because it's another bad business move. GM's history is replete with them.
quote: We KNOW the bailout came with political strings attached.
quote: What exactly, if any, is the upside in selling a vehicle for zero profit?
quote: True, you'll make SOME profit on interest if they go with GMAC financing, but still. What's the point?
quote: 2. Costs too much to produce
quote: 3. Nobody is buying anyway
quote: Yep. Like canceling the EV-1 program...
quote: Glad to know you know what the Volt costs to make.
quote: Really? I think the primary string attached was more Union Jobs.
quote: Perspective is important. GM made around 9,500 units for sale last year. They sold ~75-80% of the them.
quote: The EV-1 would have went down as the biggest Detroit disaster since Charlie Sheen's live tour!
quote: It's common knowledge. Steve Rattner, head of the governments auto task force, spilled the beans already.
quote: Obtuseness to the point of ignorance. You know goddamn full and well that the Volt is this administrations Golden Child.
quote: Speaking of perspective, check the Government fleet sales numbers of the Volt. So the Volt is a success because the Government bought a bunch of Government endorsed and hyped vehicles?
quote: I wonder what the PR and goodwill hit of the "Who Killed the Electric Car?" movie has cost GM?
quote: Though I agree, the numbers said to kill it when they did...
quote: Hmmm... A communications expert running a very new government function is of course all knowing! Too bad he's already recanted
quote: And you know full well the Number 1 benefactor of the Automobile bailout was the UAW. Follow the money.
quote: Obama's administration actions were and are completely independent of the Volt.
quote: In December, ~65% were to private customers. An unknown number was sold to local governments, and some were sold to GE.
quote: So you're arguing with me just because? Thanks...
quote: Rattner was privy to insider information about the cost of making the Volt, and in that statement I quoted, accidentally or unethically revealed private information to the public. GM was extremely angry over the incident as well as several Government officials. OF COURSE he "recanted" afterwards. That's what EVERY officials has to do after he's stuck his foot in his mouth! Good god man, get with it.
quote: Yes but that's not the point here.
quote: An unknown number sold to state Government's, combined with Federal sales, is NOT insignificant or contrary to my argument. A huge number of Volt sales has been with taxpayer money. NOT private sales.
quote: I'm sick of your willful ignorance and unethical behavior on this forum when it comes to the Volt.
quote: Hindsight is 20/20. At this point in time (2012), it seems a very foolish choice.
quote: GM is playing "catch-up".
quote: Wait. Your the one claiming the -existence- of a concept from 2007 was a major factor in the Automobile bailout, and the Government FORCED GM to continue to produce this product for a 2010 release from 2009 on.
quote: At this point were are looking at less than 150 sources Government "Fleet" Volts of which around 50% are being used in research.
quote: But the simple truth is, from any of the "major" objectives out there, be it Energy Independence, Low Cost Solutions, Sustainability, Enivormental, Global Warming, etc. The Volt smashes any and all technologies on the road today... without a significant sacrifice in lifestyle of the end user! Its not even crazy expensive. In fact, it's cheaper than the car most Americans choose to buy new! Sure, its probably 25% too expensive for its capabilities, but a reduction of 25% is not only possible, but -probable- in the near term time frame. Its not a joke that every other car company is showing Serial Hybrid and PHEV concepts and product plans! Ford is planning on bringing -2- out in the next year alone.
quote: I am sorry the Government feels like the general population supports the idea of giving out 7,500 dollar subsidies for the car.
quote: Later in November, NHTSA conducted three additional side-impact crash tests on three separate Volts, and two caught on fire or sparked. ... GM eventually recalled the Volt in January 2012, where it placed a piece of steel to the plate that protects the EV's 400-pound battery.
quote: If this is the reason behind the fires then no amount of fuses will solve the issue.