quote: Microsoft finds itself under attack for innovating too much.
quote: Still irritating
quote: but pinnned right on the immediate start bar that 8 has no good answer for
quote: Not only that, the start screen can hold so many more programs in a 2 dimensional setting, meaning you can utilize spacial memory more effectively than a linear list of applications. It turns out to be fairly effective if you give it a proper chance.
quote: . It is great for touch, but irritating as hell for a PC. I just don't like it... Count me as part of the 3/4 of tech users that don't like it.
quote: Then why bother with Metro at all.
quote: Then why bother with Metro at all. Just click desktop and stay there?
quote: And what do you need a start button for? Why clutter the taskbar with a big cartoonish icon unnecessarily, when we all know where to click?
quote: Just click desktop and stay there?
quote: MANY of the settings that a user needs to change can only be accessed through the "Metro" UI
quote: Microsoft trying to get into the touchpad based tablet market was expected. But this is not how to do it
quote: And Microsoft wonders why it's failing?
quote: They wonder why Open/Libre Office is fast becoming the Office suite of choice?
quote: The tablet market is where all the growth is happening right now, and they want to maintain a common interface/experience across all their platforms. Computer interfaces change and have to be relearned with every generation.
quote: In the same way, a cell phone, a tablet , a virtualization server, and a workstation are all computers but they need a UI and controls that make sense for the task at hand.
quote: Any useful advice falls mostly on deaf ears.
quote: The Modern UI (not Metro anymore) is good. But there is no synergy with the desktop mode. Applications and apps are segregated. There is not enough thinking behind how they will work together seamlessly and resulting in seemingly half assed product in both parts.
quote: While I do applaud other background kernel optimisations MS has put in. Battery life and performance are improved slightly. You have to agree Windows 8 is quite cheap, so even if people don't like it, they don't necessarily feel ripped off.
quote: But I shouldn't have to relearn everything every time Microsoft feels like designing a new UI.
quote: you think it's a reasonable thing to tell consumers to just buy a "new and improved" product, and then have to go an "fix it" to make it usable.
quote: MS can either fix it, and get rid of the craptastic Metrosexual UI that essentially no one wants, or people can stay with Win7 and never buy Win8.
quote: All these people saying "just do <this>" or "just do <that>" are utterly missing the point. Why should we have to do *anything*?
quote: Win8 is horribly defective, and Win7 isn't.
quote: When we order new PC's it will still be Win7. No way in HELL am I taking calls "how do I this, and how do I that". Not when Win7 works so well.
quote: Computers illetrate
quote: I agree that WIN8 has two faces that doesn't have a body but you are going to root for pretty desktop for how much longer ?
quote: At times I think that people moan just to moan
quote: And glad I am I jumped to the W8 boat. Of course it's not perfect, but in terms of usability - and performance - it's a very nice leap from what Windows OSs have been offering till now.
quote: And another goodie about W8... The revamped task manager is just great! Only needs an integrated debugger to be the oracle of nerdvana in its own right lol
quote: You simply did not backup your position with ANY meaningful statements.
quote: I also don't like how it will randomly decide to install updates at the worst times, or even more annoyingly reconfigure services. About a week after buying my new laptop I wanted to quickly take care of something before I went to bed and was met with a "please wait while Windows configures services, do not shut down your device" and there wasn't any way to bypass it. It took 2 hours, that's unacceptable under any circumstance no matter what the hell it was trying to do. I didn't care for the Win7 method so much either (windows is restarting, would you like to postpone this>>yes>>4 hours later it restarts without warning no matter what you are doing). I know I can disable the updating and such, but nothing the OS does should ever take that long, on Win 7 it was a matter of minutes at most.
quote: I just want them to keep going because we were really getting stuck on the Windows 95-style interface.
quote: Vista is Windows version 6, as are "Windows 7" and "Windows 8". XP is Windows 5.
quote: I love W8. It's here to stay and I won't go back to W7 EVER, as now the start menu feels stupidly clumsy to me.
quote: For me the mistake is not the UI itself, rather that it's a big change and people do not like big changes at all and don't respond well when they happen. They need a more incremental, evolutionary approach than revolutionary.
quote: My first response to aero was horror and an immediate disabling, until I got it tweaked and trimmed enough to work smoothly. In 8, I notice absolutely no performance difference disabling every visual effect and theming, and using the classic 2000 style start menu interface versus running all decked out -- a stark comparison to MS's interface 'improvements' in vista, 7, and esp XP (where practically every interface transition was just a huge lag).
quote: Whether its DailyTech's readers or online critics, it's important to recognize that much of the criticism is coming from the enthusiast sphere. Average consumers -- who generally gravitate towards bright, colorful, touchable devices like moths to a light -- tend to react more kindly to Windows 8 when exposed, at least in my anecdotal experience.
quote: I initially didn't bother with the start screen on non-touch systems but I'm finding that handy as well, previously when you clicked the start menu you'd only get one click access to the recently used applications while others would be access by expanding the programs section and finding the suitable application. Now however with one press of the start button I get access to a screen that gives me access then straight away to a decent number of applications.
quote: In my experience it's the average consumers that are the most critical of Windows 8 because they spend a couple of minutes with it in a shop, don't like it fundamentally because it's different and then complain vocally about how Windows 8 will be the end of Microsoft and they will either never leave Windows 8 or change to OSX. On the other enthusiasts are more likely to spend time with the operating system and appreciate there are improvements.
quote: The start menu, that you accessed by pressing the Windows key, is now named "metro UI", because that's just what it is: a full screen, more visible, more functional and easier to access start menu.
quote: You people know that you can pin whatever application you want to the metro screen and you can have dozens of them right at hand, not just 10, right?