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Dell's first entry into the Tablet PC market will command big bucks

Nearly seven months after the Latitude XT was first shown to the world, Dell is finally making its first Tablet PC available to consumers. Dell says that its new 3.53-pound Latitude XT is a ground-breaking device and is among the thinnest and lightest in its class.

The 12.1" Latitude XT has both pen and capacitive touch technology. Capacitive touch allows users to manipulate items on the screen without the need to apply pressure directly to the display.

"Until now, customers have been forced to make tradeoffs in tablet functionality to have usable systems," said Dell Product Group Director Margaret Franco. "With Capacitive touch technology, the Latitude XT will revolutionize the way customers interact with their systems, allow customers to take full advantage of tablet technology and enables customers to get more done with greater speed and precision."

Dell is taking direct aim at the leaders in the Tablet PC arena and claims that touch response times for its new Latitude are better than the competing Lenovo X61T. The Latitude XT also features advanced digital palm rejection technology for those that regularly write on the screen and uses a digitizer that is ten times more durable than competing solutions.

The Latitude XT is built around Intel's Core 2 Solo and Core 2 Duo ULV processor and comes equipped with a Radeon X1250 graphics core. The Tablet PC also incorporates a full-size keyboard with dual pointers and can accommodate a 64GB solid-state drive or up to a 120GB hard drive.

As previously reported, the display will be available with a traditional CCFL or LED-backlit WXGA display. As is the case with most high-end notebooks and Tablet PCs, the Energy Star 4.0-compliant Latitude XT comes equipped with 802.11n, Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, HSDPA or EVDO Rev A WAN options, biometric fingerprint reader and three USB 2.0 ports. Dell also gives users the option of a 4-cell, 6-cell or 9-cell battery back (the batteries feature a touch-sensitive power meter to report battery life at any given time).

All of the Latitude XT's Tablet PC goodness comes at a price -- the system features a base price of $2,499. Dell will take orders for the system and begin shipments before year's end.

DailyTech first brought you news of the device in late May when Dell announced to the world that it would enter the Tablet PC market. In October, LesDeLLiens.com leaked the specs of the device along with detailed pictures of the device from multiple angles.



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I gotta admit
By Sylar on 12/11/2007 1:06:13 AM , Rating: 1
It's one sexy device but with an ugly price.




RE: I gotta admit
By jconan on 12/11/2007 2:04:16 AM , Rating: 2
(for some reason) It looks so much like the Thinkpad X61 tablet? http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/we...


RE: I gotta admit
By wwwebsurfer on 12/11/2007 9:54:49 AM , Rating: 2
if you can't beat 'em, copy 'em


RE: I gotta admit
By amanojaku on 12/11/2007 4:05:49 AM , Rating: 5
Sexy? Maybe I need my eyes checked, but this thing looks butt-ugly. And at that price dell could have worked on the aesthetics a bit.


RE: I gotta admit
By FITCamaro on 12/11/2007 9:44:55 AM , Rating: 1
It's designed to be used by professionals, not geeky gamer kids who want skulls or whatnot on it. It looks as such. Plain and durable.


RE: I gotta admit
By jtemplin on 12/11/2007 9:54:16 AM , Rating: 1
FIT is totally right. Just go to dell's website yourself and look first at the computers for Home&Home Office and then look at Small & Medium Business. You should see a trend. The business models are designed to have very reserved looks.


RE: I gotta admit
By Jedi2155 on 12/11/2007 10:05:37 AM , Rating: 2
I find any piece of technology sexy....but that price is just out of my reach sadly...I've been wanting a tablet PC for a while (waiting for this Dell) and now I sorta wished I picked up that $700 HP set after seeing this price.....


RE: I gotta admit
By Quiescent on 12/11/2007 10:16:11 AM , Rating: 2
I guarantee you that the dell will probably be less of a pain in the ass.

My aunt got a gateway tablet PC and it really sucked. It was slow. It no longer responded to the pen hardly anymore.

Some else also got an HP. It wasn't great at all.

Now for Dell, I can trust their quality with laptops. They make pretty good laptops. Maybe if we wait we can figure out why it's so pricey.


RE: I gotta admit
By deeznuts on 12/11/2007 1:16:49 PM , Rating: 3
Did Dell change their quality? Serious question. When I bought my first Dell lappie in 2000, it was flimsy and broke like 6 times within 3 years. Service was great, but the consensus was, cheap laptop good for hte price (my price was $2,000 though for entry level).

Has this changed? I did have a Vostro 1400 for about a week and it felt great really good build quality. But it's after two years I'm interested.

Regarding this: it better be much much much better than the Thinkpad to even warrant consideration.


RE: I gotta admit
By Quiescent on 12/11/2007 2:52:43 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah. Even the dells at my school are better than anything else they have. (You know computers get bogged down with all those profile BS that is saved)

They bought Alienware which might explain a change in quality as well. However the price is practically the same it was before they bought the company, so quality is just where it needs to be now.


RE: I gotta admit
By FITCamaro on 12/11/2007 4:37:48 PM , Rating: 2
Any OEMs consumer level notebooks are pieces of sh*t. Business notebooks are another matter. Both Dell's and HP's business notebooks are far better than the crap they sell ignorant consumers. With a business notebook, it has to be made better otherwise IT departments won't buy them anymore.

Same goes for support. Consumer level support sucks royal nuts. Business level support is totally different. But still sucks in my opinion.


RE: I gotta admit
By noxipoo on 12/11/2007 10:47:44 PM , Rating: 2
their enterprise support doesn't suck at all. no idea where you get the their business support sucks from, hell, i can even start with their sales staff and they will get an engineer for me quickly.


RE: I gotta admit
By Jedi2155 on 12/11/2007 7:52:07 PM , Rating: 2
My brother still has his Inspiron 8200 he got in 2002, still running strong and he's going to give it to me after he finally gets a new one. That experience cemented my trust with Dell machines.


RE: I gotta admit
By retrospooty on 12/11/2007 10:06:51 AM , Rating: 3
It never ceases to amaze me how people always bulk when they see a high initial retail price. As if they think the initial retail price means anything on PC parts. That initial price means very little - there are sales, coupons and the natural price reductions once the first few months of sales is over and the stock levels are built up.

This happens with any PC or PC part, and most other electronics as well - always has, always will. Lets not get worked up about it. I bet you in 4 months time you will see this for $1500 easily.


RE: I gotta admit
By Pandamonium on 12/12/2007 2:12:31 AM , Rating: 2
I'd agree if it weren't an ultraportable tablet. Ultraportables in general don't have the swiftest or steepest discount rates.


hp 2710p
By davepermen on 12/11/2007 4:51:41 AM , Rating: 2
Can do everything this device can, and looks actually beautiful.

I have it since some months and it's awesome. Nothing revolutionary from dell here, just a catch-up to other vendors.




RE: hp 2710p
By estarkey7 on 12/11/2007 8:36:00 AM , Rating: 2
It was between the 2710P and the T2010 and Fujitsu won out because of the styling (I wanted all black). Other than that the HP is a lovely machine. For the life of me, I don't know how they intend to sell something for $1k more than the same offering from several competitors. The only difference is the separate graphics processor, but for $2500, I don't know if the lowest configuration (which probably comes with a core solo processor) is hardly worth it.


RE: hp 2710p
By Quiescent on 12/11/2007 10:19:46 AM , Rating: 2
I seen a lot of scratches on the same thing from other companies. Maybe this technology is meant for not ruining the screen? I still think Dell is pretty decent with their laptops.


RE: hp 2710p
By semler on 12/11/2007 11:29:27 AM , Rating: 2
I looked up the HP 2710p, but it does not seem to have the capacitive touch screen, which is probably why you are seeing such a price delta.

There aren't many tablets with a capacitive touch screen yet as far as I am aware, so I'm not sure if they are really playing catch-up. New technology is generally more expensive than old technology (regardless of if it is better or not usually).

Also, this is Dell. I don't think anyone has ever bought one without some kind of discount. You can't hardly surf the web without seeing an ad for % off deals.


Link to the XT
By HexiumVII on 12/11/2007 9:51:32 AM , Rating: 2
The price is insane. I was preparing to pay maybe $1500. Looks like i'll have to wait for the 40% off coupons. touchpad, touchscreen, active digitizer, and even touchknob input all in one tablet is pretty amazing. Its also a lot thiner/light than anything out there. WIth an ATI chipset though, i don't know how real battery life will be. Maybe i'll try one for 2 weeks. Looks like it will be orderable any hour now. I've been refreshing a lot and just found a direct link playing with the address.
http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetail...




RE: Link to the XT
By Chadder007 on 12/11/2007 5:32:14 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. For that price there had better be 2 in the box.


RE: Link to the XT
By Jedi2155 on 12/11/2007 7:53:42 PM , Rating: 2
LoL!!!

But they'll probably come back screaming at the Fedex guys yelling DON'T DELIVER THOSE!


Link?
By GoodBytes on 12/11/2007 12:25:30 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Dell is currently taking orders for the system and the first shipments will commence before year's end.

I can't find the computer in Dell website...




RE: Link?
By soydeedo on 12/11/2007 2:50:08 PM , Rating: 2
Go to small business, 12" latitude models.

http://www.dell.com/content/products/results.aspx/...


vga vs dvi
By herm0016 on 12/11/2007 8:50:14 PM , Rating: 2
vga makes more sense for business. In the business world Every podium video switcher, theater, projector can use vga out old or new, not that many support dvi yet and even fewer hdmi. you are not gaming with this, you are using it to give presentations, do work on the airplane or train or bus or whatever and then taking it back to you workstation in the office.




RE: vga vs dvi
By GeorgeOrwell on 12/11/2007 11:04:44 PM , Rating: 2
You can do what Apple does -- use a DVI connector that doubles as both digital and analog out. You use an adapter to go from DVI to VGA.

Or you could do what HP does -- provide VGA *and* HDMI.

But to remove the ability to have a sharp quality image when using an external monitor with a notebook -- a very common occurrence -- is just dumb. Especially when the notebook has a dinky 12.1" screen.

And when you go to make the big presentation to the big customer and they have a DVI projector, or HDMI projector (i.e one bought in the past 3 years), you will not have to apologize for your blurry slides and fuzzy fonts that the head honcho cannot read easily. Maybe you don't get the sale because your Dell and its inadequacies.

No, it is just cheap of Dell to remove quality and save a few pennies. Well, cheap *and* stupid. It is not hard to understand why Dell is bleeding market share so fast.


Here is how to save $1000
By estarkey7 on 12/11/2007 8:31:00 AM , Rating: 2
I bought a Fujitsu T2010 Lifebook with very similar specs. Its fabulous, beautiful and right now $1499 from Fujitsu's website. Here is a review I wrote on the device.

http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=9...

I cannot think of one thing that can make this Dell Tablet start at $2500, with the exception of Michael Dell wanting a very merry christmas for himself.




Bout...
By Vim on 12/11/2007 10:24:07 AM , Rating: 2
Great idea Dell!
Bout damn time, actually!
Oh wait, too damn expensive!
Nice try...

Hp 1 - Dell 0




A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By chucky2 on 12/11/07, Rating: -1
RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By KeypoX on 12/11/2007 12:18:09 AM , Rating: 5
dunno why you say limitations?

1. 4200rpm saves battery life and really hard drive speed shouldnt be what your looking for in a laptop
2. that is way better than most, must have the 2 slots filled with 512 each, kudos dell
3. what... lets speculate so more
4. 30% coupon

i will still pass though, but you look like a noob


RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By FITCamaro on 12/11/2007 9:48:38 AM , Rating: 2
Have you ever used a laptop with a 4200rpm hard drive? God they're slow. Booting up takes forever. Opening files takes forever. Searching for files takes forever. I'll sacrifice 5 minutes of battery life for a 5400 rpm drive that actually performs.

I do agree on the memory though. And in a laptop like this, you won't ever need more than 3GB. More than enough for even running AutoCAD if you desired to.


By Quiescent on 12/11/2007 10:22:39 AM , Rating: 2
That's the sacrifice of going smaller. That thing looks thinner than sliced bread!


RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By daftrok on 12/11/2007 12:19:09 AM , Rating: 1
Agreed. Their 12" Latitude D430 (not a tablet) is over a grand cheaper and roughly the same features. This price will more than likely go down.


RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By Samus on 12/11/2007 12:46:21 AM , Rating: 1
I don't even like Dell notebooks after my Inspiron 700 (literally a piece of shit) and I'd still have one over a Toshiba anything.


By KorruptioN on 12/11/2007 1:26:30 AM , Rating: 4
Inspirons and Latitudes are completely different beasts. They cannot be compared.


By mikeyD95125 on 12/11/2007 1:12:08 AM , Rating: 2
While a 4200RPM drive is slow it saves battery life without compromising to much performance. If they are using 1.8" drives it makes even more sense.

3GB maximum...what's the problem? I don't know who is going to be running autoCAD on there tablet PC. With a X1250 core it really isn't meant to be using such memory intensive apps anyway.
All these limitations?!?!?! You listed 2. Nice.


By BruceLeet on 12/11/2007 1:48:34 AM , Rating: 2
Ok lol first of all this is a Tablet PC, you make it seem as if it needs 2GB of Gaming memory and a 10K Raptor, if you're looking at these specs for gaming then yeah its a piece of crap lmao, but for its conventional use this is rather decent, as the first guy said, yeah you made yourself look like a "noob" :P


RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By GeorgeOrwell on 12/11/2007 4:11:52 AM , Rating: 1
I do agree; it does have something of that "lemon" vibe.

I see it at first glance in the antiquated VGA connector vs. DVI/HDMI.

While they say if you're fat that wearing black is supposed to make you look slimmer, I see a blocky case that looks chunky and thick. Perhaps the tablet is pregnant with an optical drive that many customers do not want to tote around all day every day. One would hope that at least this drive could be replaced by an additional battery. But I doubt it.

And, by no means unique to Dell, I see that nasty Windows key taking precious room on the keyboard. One day a brave Chinese company will get rid of it and they will be seen as the savior of mankind.

Not to mention the lack of a third mouse button, quite a detriment if you use Firefox or any other mouse-enabled app. Skimping on one extra mouse button is just a bit too cheap for a $2500 computer.

Balancing things out a bit, there are no Windows/Intel/Nvidia/AMD/Dell stickers on the palmrest. Now, that would have been a true deal killer. But maybe the picture is a lie, not what you get in the box. Dell has had a serious love for the stickers in the past.

Of course, we must also consider price. And without a doubt there is a massive "tablet" PC upcharge. One would think that if Dell wanted to make a splash, they would violate the existing pricing paradigm, like they used to do. But there is no evidence of Dell's original modus operandi.

This new tablet has a mediocre price, neither very high nor very low. And compared to a non-tablet laptop, this Dell is a rip-off, plain and simple.

Overall, while perhaps not a full on raging lemon, this Dell tablet seems to be "almost there", perhaps the Bronze Prize winner in a race with three contestants. Nothing special, no sign of anything beyond a rather pedestrian level of competence.

The word , so apt yet so often used, is dull.


RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By Jedi2155 on 12/11/2007 10:19:11 AM , Rating: 2
We really need to yell at Laptop manufacturers to ditch VGA and go with DVI-I or at least just DVI-D!


RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By GeorgeOrwell on 12/11/2007 3:48:39 PM , Rating: 1
Tell me about it! :-)

What is so hard to understand for Dell? The VGA connector is obsolete. No one owns/uses/buys VGA monitors anymore.

Maybe this is one big reason for Dell's sales slump. Even Dell's desktops are almost universally VGA instead of DVI/HDMI. It makes it very hard to buy a reasonably priced Dell that will work nicely with a LCD monitor. In many cases, you have to buy an upgraded video card or sacrifice your PCIe x16 slot for a upcharge DVI card. Ugh.

HDMI is great because the connector is small -- so it fits on small notebook/tablets really well -- and you can simply use an HDMI-DVI adapter cable which is really cheap and works well because HDMI and DVI are electronically identical.

As almost every video chipset, even integrated, has built-in DVI support, it is just plain dumb -- an act of spite against the customer -- to not include a digital connector.

Amen.


RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By Quiescent on 12/11/2007 4:12:45 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, a lot of companies like to go cheap with VGA. Like the really nice LCD monitor I got came with a VGA cord. It supports both DVI and VGA. However, because of the videocard, I had to use a DVI to VGA adapter.


RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By GeorgeOrwell on 12/11/2007 6:22:37 PM , Rating: 1
That's too bad. You know with analog you are not getting sub-pixel anti-aliasing, right? Your text will be especially blurry and lack a certain visual density.

Windows, Mac, and Linux support sub-pixel anti-aliasing for text drawing. Windows ClearType is arguably the best. In my opinion, I'd rate Linux second best then Mac coming up in last place.

On the other hand, in color accuracy generally Mac is best, then Windows in second place, and Linux is still at the starting line.

Of course worse than any of these is the horrible text drawing that is built into Java. That Java fuzzy text makes any monitor look like an old blurry CRT. Ugh. (Yes, that even includes the fake anti-alias capability included in Java 6)

That said, note that the company that is killing the market is Apple, a company that uses DVI on ALL of its computers, from cheapest to most expensive. Also the first big company to use dual-link DVI.

Dell should get a clue that people do not like low quality fuzzy displays.


By herm0016 on 12/11/2007 8:52:13 PM , Rating: 2
and you have to carry around 6 adapters to use anything with it. no thanks.


RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By bigboxes on 12/11/2007 9:45:43 PM , Rating: 2
Hahaha... Apple is killing the market. Yeah, riiiight.


RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By GeorgeOrwell on 12/11/2007 10:35:50 PM , Rating: 1
"According to Apple, the company shipped over 2.1 million Macs during its fourth fiscal quarter of 2007, which represents a startling 34 percent growth in unit shipments compared to the same quarter a year ago. Making the numbers even more astonishing is that this quarter lands before the traditional end-of-year holiday buying season and landed just before the company was due to launch a major new version of its Mac OS X operating system ("Leopard," due later this week). Both these factors are the sorts of things which usually cause folks in the market for a new computer to defer purchases…but instead, they're snapping up more Macs than ever before."

Apple is gaining share, rapidly. So is HP. Dell is the former #1 that is bleeding market share like a stuck pig.

Part of the reason Dell is losing share is because the company refuses to give customers what they want -- and any customer with a brain wants DVI/HDMI, not VGA.

That same customer, the one with a brain, doesn't mind carrying around a small adapter for a sharp digital image vs. no adapter for a low quality fuzzy picture.

Dell will have nothing to offer if they lose the "intelligent middle" portion of their market. And this is what is happening. The intelligent people are not buying Dell anymore.


RE: A what appears to be overpriced lemon...
By Quiescent on 12/12/2007 7:51:35 AM , Rating: 2
Apple isn't gaining my support.

Now as for Dell having a VGA... Most computer illiterate people don't even know what a VGA port is. They know it's that "One place where I plug my monitor in." So how the hell are they going to know what DVI is? Most likely more than not, they will contact the company because they're used to seeing VGA and say: "This laptop is suppose be able for me to hook another monitor up to it! Where is the hole I put the plug into?!" I still see a lot of VGA around for both the monitors and video cards. I see them all over my school, not a single DVI. Dell has a lot of stock that would be directed towards a computer-illiterate costumer looking for a halfway decent computer/laptop. However the XPS line makes the catch. It's for everybody, so to speak. They are great beasts too. They will not fail you (Except on Vista).


By GeorgeOrwell on 12/12/2007 8:53:00 AM , Rating: 1
There is some wisdom in what you are saying. But there is also wisdom in knowing when it is time to do more, to help change things for the better.

But when your company, Dell, is bleeding market share and part of the perception is "lack of innovation" perhaps it is time to spend another 50 cents and put another connector on there, i.e. DVD-I which can do both DVD-D and analog. Or HDMI + VGA (like HP and like Apple they are killing Dell these days too).

The short of it is that a company needs to realize when they are saving money and when they are being too cheap.

Preventing many customers from getting anything but a fuzzy picture is being too cheap.

The market is showing quite consistently that Dell needs to innovate more, to become more appealing. Part of that is supporting the latest connectivity standards, not those left over from the PC equivalent of the Cold War.


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