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AMD memo leaked to DailyTech shows Phenom availability

AMD and Intel have historically traded the title of the best performing CPUs. Recently, however, the battle has been largely one-sided with Intel taking the volume and performance crown.

AMD hopes to change that with the release of its new Phenom processors. MSI was the first mainboard manufacturer to announce an RD790 mainboard, the K9A2 Platinum, for the quad-core and tri-core Phenom's. Mainboards from ASUS and Gigabyte based on RD790 were announced in October and also support Phenom quad-core processors.

More details of the AMD platform launch that included the Phenom, the RD790 chipset and the RV670 graphics processor surfaced early in November. DailyTech reported early in November 2007 on the pricing structure of the Phenom processors ranging from about $280 to $330 USD. 

An AMD internal memos hows the AMD Phenom 9700, 2.4 GHz processor is slated for mid-December availability. Allocation for the Phenom 9600 running at 2.3GHz has been pushed back to a Q1 2008 date.

The Tech Report, in an interview with AMD's desktop product marketing manager Michael Saucier, confirmed an erratum for all Phenom processors that will cause the system to hang due to an L3 cache miss.  The Tech Report claims this fix will degrade performance as much at 10%.

The mainboard favored by AMD, the MSI K9A2 Platinum is impossible to get currently since it is out of stock. MSI confirmed to DailyTech that this board will start shipping again next week, and that the board itself is not with any defect, but just in high demand and low availability.

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AMD is a Joke
By bull2760 on 12/4/2007 5:44:43 PM , Rating: 1
You know what I'm tired of reading about AMD's supposed next great processor. I've been building computers for customers for the last 10 years and have never wavered from AMD, until now. I can't wait anymore, their continued screw ups with manufacturing problems and design has turned me off. AMD do us all a favor and shut your doors already, Hector time for you to step down and be held accountable for everything that has gone wrong. Good bye AMD hello Intel!

RE: AMD is a Joke
By rogard on 12/4/2007 7:19:11 PM , Rating: 2
I can't remember anyone suggesting that intel should close their doors when all they had was Prescott. Not to mention the danger of intel being all alone in the market for CPUs (well I know there's VIA, but, you know...)

I sure hope that AMD will stay, be it by having cheap CPUs with a good perf/price ratio for sale or by presenting world's fastest CPU next year for 2000$, as long as they survive the constant money drain they have been suffering from for a while now.

Cause if they go down, any hardware seller will soon have a hard time selling the 'ware to people that do not want to spend insane amounts of money for ridiculously overpriced intel CPUs. Think about that.

RE: AMD is a Joke
By JumpingJack on 12/4/2007 11:45:16 PM , Rating: 1
I think he may be speaking from the point of view of a small business, when your supply line is not providing the stuff you need when you need it, you lose money....

It will be interesting to see the server share numbers for Q4 and Q1 coming up.

RE: AMD is a Joke
By caqde on 12/4/2007 7:19:56 PM , Rating: 4
Companies make mistakes just like you. Just because they are messing up right now doesn't mean they won't be able to come back and be as good as you wish they were. Anyways this processor might not be as great as I hoped, but it does seem to be a good step towards that next great processor.

So that you can understand what I mean. This processor has an awesome memory subsystem. With a bit of work AMD could get it to work more efficient allowing the processors to cooperate with each other faster than they are now. Another section they could work on is the actual cores which bulldozer seems to be focusing on. I doubt the quad core design is the main issue with speed in this design, but rather the cores themselves, but AMD had to make a choice and they went this way.

They couldn't make a quad core any other way, and Intel took advantage of it while they could. Intel won't be able to do this again with Nehalem. Since they will both be using onboard memory controllers both will be stuck designing their architectures around this issue. Although both seem to be going modular in design so I doubt this will be an issue anymore soooo... Let's just see how bulldozer changes things. And remember AMD just MERGED... ATI could make a big change to the way AMD's processors work and vis versa. :)

RE: AMD is a Joke
By sweetsauce on 12/4/2007 11:20:07 PM , Rating: 2
You must believe in the tooth fairy.

RE: AMD is a Joke
By caqde on 12/5/2007 11:51:17 AM , Rating: 2
??? what are you talking about.. I have a background in software engineering and design (low level design) and I have read up on how the Core2 and Barcelona processors work. I can see changes that could be made that could make the Barcelona a killer processor. If you don't believe small changes can make a processor that much faster fine. But if you want an example look at the speed difference between the Core and Core2 processors...

RE: AMD is a Joke
By Shoal07 on 12/5/2007 2:47:00 PM , Rating: 2
Damn, too bad AMD doesn't have anyone on their staff with a software engineering and design (low level design) background. That could fix all their problems!

(sorry, you left yourself wide open)

RE: AMD is a Joke
By jay2o01 on 12/5/2007 12:34:12 AM , Rating: 2
Without AMD's next great processor, intel would be able to charge whatever they pleased for their Core2's. Its competition that got prices to current levels (anyone remember a price war).

Lets be serious Samsung (holds a bunch of ARM proc patents) and Via (c7 or whatever it is now) are in no position to challenge intel.

Consumers need healthy competition, it lowers prices and ensures inovation.

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