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AMD memo leaked to DailyTech shows Phenom availability

AMD and Intel have historically traded the title of the best performing CPUs. Recently, however, the battle has been largely one-sided with Intel taking the volume and performance crown.

AMD hopes to change that with the release of its new Phenom processors. MSI was the first mainboard manufacturer to announce an RD790 mainboard, the K9A2 Platinum, for the quad-core and tri-core Phenom's. Mainboards from ASUS and Gigabyte based on RD790 were announced in October and also support Phenom quad-core processors.

More details of the AMD platform launch that included the Phenom, the RD790 chipset and the RV670 graphics processor surfaced early in November. DailyTech reported early in November 2007 on the pricing structure of the Phenom processors ranging from about $280 to $330 USD. 

An AMD internal memos hows the AMD Phenom 9700, 2.4 GHz processor is slated for mid-December availability. Allocation for the Phenom 9600 running at 2.3GHz has been pushed back to a Q1 2008 date.

The Tech Report, in an interview with AMD's desktop product marketing manager Michael Saucier, confirmed an erratum for all Phenom processors that will cause the system to hang due to an L3 cache miss.  The Tech Report claims this fix will degrade performance as much at 10%.

The mainboard favored by AMD, the MSI K9A2 Platinum is impossible to get currently since it is out of stock. MSI confirmed to DailyTech that this board will start shipping again next week, and that the board itself is not with any defect, but just in high demand and low availability.

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RE: kinda..
By Martimus on 12/4/2007 2:05:16 PM , Rating: 2
The AMD 80486 was generally faster than Intels. Also the K6 was faster than any available Pentium or Pentium Pro, although that only lasted until the P2 was released. I am not sure about the Athlon vs. the P3, or anything after that though.

RE: kinda..
By tayhimself on 12/4/2007 3:17:34 PM , Rating: 2
Also the K6 was faster than any available Pentium or Pentium Pro

Do not deride the Pentium Pro. The K6 came waaay after it. The Pentium Pro was the fastest chip *PERIOD* (Alpha was eclipsed for the first time). Everyone likes to say the Conroe is a derivative of the 686 core (or P6), and the Pentium Pro was the first 686 core chip.

RE: kinda..
By Clauzii on 12/4/2007 9:24:03 PM , Rating: 2
I would include the Pentium also.

A k6 200MHz was also upto 40% slower than the Pentium 200 MHz when doing FPU operations!

RE: kinda..
By Martimus on 12/5/2007 12:47:12 PM , Rating: 2
The way I remember it, the Intel chip was only better at MMX optimized applications, but AMD had better performance on just about anything else clock-for-clock. Of course, P2 came out soon after, and AMD didn't have an answer for it. Heck, Cyrix had some pretty powerful chips at the time, if they were at all reliable then they may have had the best value. Of course they were just known for being nothing but problems.

RE: kinda..
By Clauzii on 12/6/2007 1:11:17 PM , Rating: 2
No - I mean FPU..

RE: kinda..
By Martimus on 12/5/2007 12:42:32 PM , Rating: 2
I bought a K6 233 within a year of the Pentium Pro being released. In fact, I had thought that the K6 was released just before the Pentium Pro, but it was a long time ago, so I don't remember that well. Either way, the K6 was about 1/3 the price of a comparable Intel chip, and it did better on the benchmarks that we tried at the time. (I am trying to remember the two that we used to use to measure performance at the time, but alas my memory is not very good)

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