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Apple pokes fun at Microsoft's Vista woes in its latest advertisements... again
Microsoft rolls along with SP1 updates

While Apple is using its latest round of TV commercials to further push the butcher knife into Windows Vista -- specifically, Microsoft's decision to extend the sales of Windows XP and allow users to downgrade Vista to Windows XP -- the boys in Redmond are hard at work on the first service pack for the operating system.

Microsoft released the Service Pack 1 (SP1) beta to a select group of testers in late September. The update cured many of the ailments that afflicted Windows Vista since its retail release on January 30.

"Improvements were also noticeable in resuming from Hibernation or Sleep on both my desktop PC and laptop running SP1," remarked Microsoft's Brandon LeBlanc in September. "I discovered copying files from one directory to another is a bit faster. And on my laptop - battery life seems to be improved since running SP1. I have also noticed that transferring files to my shares on my Windows Home Server are a bit faster than they were previously without SP1. Overall performance in accessing my mapped network shares is improved as well."

Yesterday, Microsoft released a new Release Candidate (RC) build (6001-17042-071107-1618) of SP1 to testers. The latest build weighs in at 434.84MB for the x86 version and 734.3MB for the x64 version.

Testers who already have the previous SP1 beta installed, however, will run into somewhat of a roadblock when it comes to the new RC build.

"Windows Vista SP1 does not support build-to-build upgrades," states Microsoft. "Therefore, if you have installed a previously release build on your machine, you have to uninstall this old build before installing the next build of Windows Vista SP1."

Windows Vista SP1 RC is currently available for download from the Microsoft Connect website for current SP1 testers.

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Those Commercials...
By clovell on 11/15/2007 2:41:00 PM , Rating: 5
If Apple has good products, why do they keep making commercials that put down on PCs?

RE: Those Commercials...
By Souka on 11/15/2007 2:49:13 PM , Rating: 5
penis envy perhaps?

But that's not what this thread is about....

RE: Those Commercials...
By Master Kenobi on 11/15/2007 6:12:07 PM , Rating: 5
I think Microsoft should sue the shit out of Apple for those commercials. False Advertising. Plain and Simple.

RE: Those Commercials...
By FITCamaro on 11/15/2007 6:49:25 PM , Rating: 3

RE: Those Commercials...
By Nightskyre on 11/16/2007 8:38:06 AM , Rating: 3

RE: Those Commercials...
By TomZ on 11/16/2007 8:54:29 AM , Rating: 2
DT already have a rating system. :o)

RE: Those Commercials...
By leexgx on 11/16/2007 10:06:21 AM , Rating: 5
not every one knows how to make an second account

RE: Those Commercials...
By DeepBlue1975 on 11/16/07, Rating: -1
RE: Those Commercials...
By afkrotch on 11/17/2007 11:31:50 AM , Rating: 5
Of course. Cause, who doesn't like having hardware that's locked down into one company, so they can be screwed on prices?

I mean, thought we all loved that. I mean, I hate having the ability to easily go 1 block down the road to pick up parts for my computer. I'd much rather drive 40 miles to the nearest medium sized city to find an Apple Store.

RE: Those Commercials...
By DeepBlue1975 on 11/20/2007 4:03:53 PM , Rating: 2
If Macs were less expensive some years ago, they would have been more widespread and they wouldn't have needed to ditch their own hardware (I liked mac's hardware till the G3, after that, PC offerings started to look much better to me).

People who bought macs all the time didn't worry about themselves being locked to just the expensive MacWorld for everything they wanted for their machines.

I never had a Mac because I didn't wanna get locked up, but I liked very early solutions very much.
Technology that doesn't make it through time is not always because it's bad technology, sometimes it simply isn't the moment or there are cost issues (I remember DEC's Alpha chips, IBM's MCA architecture on their early PCs instead of the ISA bus, and things like that)

RE: Those Commercials...
By Muirgheasa on 11/16/2007 9:30:49 AM , Rating: 2
What exactly is false? I don't think they actually say anything which is factually incorrect; it's all just slagging, basically. I really don't think Microsoft would get very far in a lawsuit alleging that their computers don't crash, anyway. Do you?

Everyone on here just hates Apple...

...plain and simple.

RE: Those Commercials...
By TomZ on 11/16/2007 9:57:14 AM , Rating: 5
I can't speak for everyone, but I personally don't dislike Apple - but I really don't like their arrogant marketing. It is a real turn-off for me, strong enough that it makes we want to never buy an Apple product. Apple thinks they are superior to everyone else, and in my opinion, that's just ugly.

RE: Those Commercials...
By clovell on 11/16/2007 11:29:15 AM , Rating: 1
That's about how I feel as well. Only thing I'd add is that the Apple faithful generally rub me the wrong way.

RE: Those Commercials...
By Muirgheasa on 11/16/2007 11:40:22 AM , Rating: 2
Well, fair enough, I may have exaggerated a little, and they may be annoying (to some people). But it still isn't false advertising, in fairness to them.

RE: Those Commercials...
By afkrotch on 11/17/2007 11:49:53 AM , Rating: 2
So the fact that the advertising always shows the PC as nothing more than a workhorse isn't....false?

How about the commercial where the Mac and PC are holding hands, then Japanese digital camera comes along and holds Mac's hand. Showing that Mac easily supports the camera, while PC doesn't without drivers. Ya...pretty false. Last I checked, Mac hardly supports any hardware.

Course every single one of those ads is false. Why is the PC always a guy in a suit? PC = personal computer. Doesn't that kind of negate the whole corporate work image?

RE: Those Commercials...
By hinchesk on 11/17/2007 8:12:20 AM , Rating: 2
Everyone on here just hates Apple...

You're getting that too eh... good lord man.

Worse than a religious war, not much sense bringing in logic I guess. Can you imagine how these threads would be going if Leopard needed 2Gb RAM or 10-11 months for 1st major update?

I've never owned a Mac, lots of PC's over the years and I've had just about enough of the nonsense, i.e. huge h/w upgrade for every OS upgrade, defragging HD's, cleaning registries, AV scans and resident programs, spyware/malware scans, mysterious setting disappearances, etc.

Time to buy a Mac I think and if I need to do some gaming I'll boot(camp) into XP. Too bad Apple can't let go of the reigns long enough to build a headless Mac desktop with some upgradability. Damn billionaires.

RE: Those Commercials...
By Rockjock51 on 11/20/2007 3:26:19 AM , Rating: 2
"i.e. huge h/w upgrade for every OS upgrade, defragging HD's, cleaning registries, AV scans and resident programs, spyware/malware scans, mysterious setting disappearances, etc."

And boot camping into XP is going to solve all that? Still the same OS.

RE: Those Commercials...
By 16nm on 11/19/2007 10:39:25 AM , Rating: 1
I think Microsoft should sue the shit out of Apple for those commercials. False Advertising. Plain and Simple.

I seriously doubt Microsoft would want a very public case with end-user testimonies defending Apple's side. Even though we all KNOW that Apple is not really any better, this could be very damaging to Microsoft. Apple knows this. Microsoft knows this. The commercials will continue. At least they are good for a laugh.

RE: Those Commercials...
By gochichi on 11/19/2007 9:31:44 PM , Rating: 1
How could you possibly "KNOW that Apple is not really any better" when in fact, Apple is better in many important areas. It's undeniable that Vista unsuccessfully tried to emulate Mac OS X Tiger. How can you even debate that point?

You damn Windows zealots, stop calling reasonable people with logical reasons, proof, practical experiences... zealots. Open your freaking eyes to the reality.

Long long ago, there was UNIX. Microsoft was "inspired by UNIX" and created DOS which was worlds cheaper than UNIX. UNIX of course was better and still is. Talk about coming up with a good frame work... UNIX's frame work is still the best available even today.

Xerox came up with something amazing. Apple started to copy it and perfect it and make it feasible right away. Then Microsoft started copying Apple... which was OK since Apple copied Xerox. Apple, like Microsoft had spaggetti code up to OS 9. Apple being a company about to loose it's ass, it ditched its past and built upon UNIX and used it's GUI expertise to build Mac OS X. Had Apple not built upon UNIX, then perhaps Mac OS X would be just as bad as Vista... but this isn't the case. Mac OS X is basically the best, closed source version of Linux with widespread support. Except it's UNIX.

Seriously, Microsoft zealots are just pissing me off these days. Your blind support just allows for crappy products. I would love it if instead of your blind loyalty, you too were asking for someone to step in and build something open (not necessarily open source, just not as closed as Mac OS X) that could actually be on par with OS X if not better. It's more that possible, why can't we stop being OK with buggy mediocrity from Microsoft when it stands as one of the richest companies in the world? They could be and should be setting the pace, and not Apple. But as much as I want them to, they simply are not. Open your eyes.

RE: Those Commercials...
By kristof007 on 11/17/2007 8:32:48 PM , Rating: 3
God sometimes I wish I could hack DT and mod some stuff to 6 myself! I am in tears from laughing so hard!

RE: Those Commercials...
By Vile2600 on 11/15/2007 2:54:11 PM , Rating: 5
They do it because it's out of sheer desperation and because it's the best they can do. Apple knows that their Operating System will never even come close to the populairty of Windows, so the best shot they have is to make lame commercials that downplay the competition.

Perhaps microsoft should stoop to their level and release commercials about all the bugs and lockups that Leopard had prior to Apple just releasing the recent updates.

RE: Those Commercials...
By calyth on 11/15/2007 4:52:07 PM , Rating: 2
Actually their software isn't particularly popular because they want lock-in to their hardware.
I'll bet if they let OSX to be installed on PCs, there would be at least a good bunch of people who would try it out on PC hardware.

RE: Those Commercials...
By hadifa on 11/15/2007 5:20:47 PM , Rating: 3
It is not as simple as allowing, if they want to release it so people can install it on their systems, they need to make sure that it works with the majority of the available hardware and hardware manufacturers are going to support it. Extremely difficult to pull off.

RE: Those Commercials...
By Calin on 11/16/2007 4:29:44 AM , Rating: 3
With almost full support to Windows, Microsoft's software is not working perfectly on every hardware out there (this is a device driver problem and most of the time not Microsoft's fault - anyway, without support from device manufacturers, Apple won't have working drivers for most of the devices on market.

RE: Those Commercials...
By ZaethDekar on 11/15/2007 2:57:33 PM , Rating: 5
Because its true. Now if you had a PC guy sitting there playing a game.... the mac guy would be sad.

If they showed the PC guy talking with a friend and then the mac guy was talking to a friend. Then the mac guy would hand something to his friend as he is walking away the file would burst into flames and be gone. While the PC guys are laughing handing files back and forth sharing information.

Its all a matter of the battle they choose. Everyone knows the windows has viruses and memory leaks and blue screens.... but thats is becuase of how large of a user base uses windows. Apple will have issues as well once the user base grows.

RE: Those Commercials...
By Calin on 11/16/2007 4:31:42 AM , Rating: 2
This (files bursting in flames) would be an ad for the Microsoft's managed life for documents/emails/...

RE: Those Commercials...
By bhieb on 11/16/2007 9:16:19 AM , Rating: 3
Actually you are all wrong here. They do it because of the 50 or so posts on right here. I agree it is a little low for such a so called "sophisticated" company, but marketing is marketing and what ever gets consumers talking is good.

"Well, there may be a reason why they call them 'Mac' trucks! Windows machines will not be trucks." -- Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer
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