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ATI Radeon HD 3870/3850 @ PC Perspective
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ATI Radeon HD 3870/3850
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@ Hot Hardware
@ TweakTown
@ Hardware Canucks
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@ Elite Bastards
@ Technic3D
@ Legit Reviews
@ The Tech Report
@ Chile Hardware

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Inconsistant reviews Anand/Legion?
By B166ER on 11/15/2007 2:21:23 AM , Rating: 3
Ok, most things being equal (roughly same sys specs, Anand has X6800 C2D w/ Vista 32 bit, Legion has E6850 w/ Vista 64 bit, both are 4 gig memory deals.) How is it Anands benchies are quite higher than Legion's? Anand has the potentially slower sys, though the OS is a bit more refined for gaming, being 32 bit, whereas legion has better sys specs. But, for example, Anand has some 49 fps in Crysis @ 1600x1200, Legion can barely squeeze 27 frames @1680x1050?? Lower res, but half the fps (w/ the 8800 GT)?? Huh?? Anand doesn't give details about aa/af specs, but Legions is running 0 aa/af, so if Anand cant possibly be running better??!! Anyone got some insight here? Could that be SLI numbers for Anand?
The Radeon review was equally strange, in Crysis, Anand hit rouighly 36 fps @1600x1200, while Legion hit 20 @1680x1050?? What gives, why such disparage in Legions review??

RE: Inconsistant reviews Anand/Legion?
By Pryde on 11/15/2007 3:59:29 AM , Rating: 2
I would imagine that anandtech are using DX9 benchies while legion are using DX10

RE: Inconsistant reviews Anand/Legion?
By B166ER on 11/15/2007 4:56:42 AM , Rating: 2
Under Vista 32? I don't have the Crysis demo but is there a way to run it under Vista under Dx9 only? Doesn't seem realistic, why run Crysis under Vista but not use Dx10? And beyond that, get roughly twice the frame rates? Just seems, well, challengeable. I could be declaring shenanigans here!

RE: Inconsistant reviews Anand/Legion?
By InsidiousAngel on 11/15/2007 8:15:23 AM , Rating: 3
You can specify which shader to run. Just because Vista has DX10 doesn’t mean everything you play has to run in DX10. You typically are given a choice. I run Hellgate: London in DX9 on my Vista64 install, simply because I have had issues running the DX10 flavor.

By Mitch101 on 11/15/2007 9:30:32 AM , Rating: 2
One of the biggest misconceptions people have is that if they go to vista with DX10 they are stuck in full DX10 mode.

In some benchies Vista running DX10 with certain items disabled is faster than XP running DX9. Of course not everything but still very good.

Think about when Quake first came out and supported ungodly resolutions and everyone looked at each other and said who could ever play at that resolution. DX10 is kind of the same way while its a stretch for hardware today to reach its full potential but in 18 months we will be glad Microsoft did it.

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