Demonoid.com Shut Down by CRIA
November 9, 2007 11:26 AM
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Canadian-hosted torrent site is the next to fall in a series of takedowns
The world-wide crackdown on torrent sites has brought down another major torrent hub. After being
forced to close its doors to Canadian users in September
due to pressure from the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA), Demonoid.com survived for only slightly more than a month before being having
forced offline entirely today
The previously bustling homepage has been replaced by a single line of text; bereft of much in the way of details, but leaving little doubt as to the fate of the website:
The CRIA threatened the company renting the servers to us, and because of this it is not possible to keep the site online. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your understanding.
The Demonoid tracker and website outage in September was explained as a server rebuild. With the CRIA now going after the hosts in question, it is unlikely that Demonoid will find a new host within Canada willing to defend themselves.
"Upstream takedown," as its dubbed,
is a page right from the U.S. Digital Millenium Copyright Act takedown procedure
After the Interpol takedown of the
UK-based site OiNK on October 23rd
, many OiNK users were warned that "a criminal investigation" would continue into the site and its users.
No such warning has been posted yet. It may be that Demonoid did not store any information, that the CRIA may have opted to simply remove the site rather than attempt to prosecute the end-users or that it may be a waiting game to determine if the operators will attempt to bring their site back online.
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RE: Not really a surprise....
11/9/2007 5:46:44 PM
I think when it comes to post-secondary education that throwing money can help. Cutting tuition costs by paying for portions of students tuitions and making it very easy for everyone to have the ability to obtain a post secondary education allows for the poorer classes to understand that just because they don't have money, that they still have a possible future. Too often it's kids who know they will never go to University, so what's the point of doing well in Highschool? On the flipside, middle class and upper class kids often get a feeling of entitlement, or that for whatever reason, education is onerous.
I'm really not sure how you could change that entitlement mindset :S
RE: Not really a surprise....
11/9/2007 7:09:57 PM
My family is considered mid-class. But even as being mid-class, we still have a bunch of stuff to pay off. Even with the nice insurance we have because my dad works for Cessna, we still have to pay for certain things. I mean like I said before, on the user-side of the economy, it feels like it's completely out of whack. $3 for a gallon of milk here is pretty expensive. You also must figure gas, groceries, and other bills.
I see it as a possibility, but also for the fact that I may be ending up paying a majority of the tuition and other fees because 80k a year may seem like a lot of money. It's really not.
RE: Not really a surprise....
11/10/2007 2:20:40 AM
The only problems with throwing (government) money at post-secondary is that, as we've seen in America with heavily subsidized sacred-cow student loans, it encourages wild price inflation. Students become insensitive to cost, universities spend more. The other problem is that "free" or "nearly free" college seems to lead to the next socialist goal; a French sort of system that isn't at all competitive for students, leading to lackluster universities. Sarkozy knows it and is trying to reform it now.
The US universities are the best in the world, so I'd caution against any large changes. That said, in my home state of Florida, college is "free" based on a meritocracy; Bright Futures Scholarships of 75% of tuition is given to anyone who hardly bothers in High School, 100% to those that really try (its still not all that difficult), and then even more aid is available at the community college level. Most people I knew from high school ended up
by attending college.. I made about $600 per semester, a girlfriend at the time made over $2000. Except for those that slacked off and lost it (a certain GPA must be maintained). I think it works pretty well; those that want it can get it, those that don't want it don't have money wasted on them.
I don't personally view it as insensitive to say not everyone is meant to go to college.
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