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Canadian-hosted torrent site is the next to fall in a series of takedowns

The world-wide crackdown on torrent sites has brought down another major torrent hub. After being forced to close its doors to Canadian users in September due to pressure from the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA), Demonoid.com survived for only slightly more than a month before being having forced offline entirely today.

The previously bustling homepage has been replaced by a single line of text; bereft of much in the way of details, but leaving little doubt as to the fate of the website:

The CRIA threatened the company renting the servers to us, and because of this it is not possible to keep the site online. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your understanding.

The Demonoid tracker and website outage in September was explained as a server rebuild.  With the CRIA now going after the hosts in question, it is unlikely that Demonoid will find a new host within Canada willing to defend themselves.

"Upstream takedown," as its dubbed, is a page right from the U.S. Digital Millenium Copyright Act takedown procedure

After the Interpol takedown of the UK-based site OiNK on October 23rd, many OiNK users were warned that "a criminal investigation" would continue into the site and its users.

No such warning has been posted yet. It may be that Demonoid did not store any information, that the CRIA may have opted to simply remove the site rather than attempt to prosecute the end-users or that it may be a waiting game to determine if the operators will attempt to bring their site back online.


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RE: Not really a surprise....
By Ringold on 11/9/2007 5:08:59 PM , Rating: 2
There was a really interesting write up in The Economist last week on education.

It told you exactly what any Republican might tell you; throwing money at it has had no measurable effect for developed countries over the past decade or so. Standardized testing seems to be proven somewhat useless by the Fins. What really is needed appears to be improved training (some countries require primary school teachers to have Masters degrees), fewer teachers (to professionalize the job in the social view) and incentives to actually be a teacher such that instead of recruiting the bottom 30% of college grads, such as the US does, education snags those out of the top 10%. Also have to catch kids falling behind.

I knew throwing money at anything by the government is a waste, but head over to economist.com and see if you can find the article, the chart was really surprising. Many countries increased spending by a huge degree -- and saw negative progress!


RE: Not really a surprise....
By Quiescent on 11/9/2007 5:34:32 PM , Rating: 2
In all I don't mean throwing it at the school and saying do this and this. I see inexperienced teachers in a lot of schools here. One teacher last year didn't understand geometry, so he taught algebra. One geometry teacher I had last year knew geometry so well, but he couldn't teach it to us. Not by a long shot. I think it should be focused on more of getting good teachers. It's not 100% our faults we're failing classes. Some of us aren't failing because we're slacking off, we're failing because the teacher doesn't know how to teach.

As far as financial aid goes, your parents could be making 80k a year, but they still won't be able to afford college for you. The economy is kind of screwy. I don't want to be stuck with student loan bills, and I know I will.

It doesn't matter if a high percentage of the state's money goes to education. It's not going into the right place. They haven't figured that out yet, either.


RE: Not really a surprise....
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 5:46:44 PM , Rating: 2
I think when it comes to post-secondary education that throwing money can help. Cutting tuition costs by paying for portions of students tuitions and making it very easy for everyone to have the ability to obtain a post secondary education allows for the poorer classes to understand that just because they don't have money, that they still have a possible future. Too often it's kids who know they will never go to University, so what's the point of doing well in Highschool? On the flipside, middle class and upper class kids often get a feeling of entitlement, or that for whatever reason, education is onerous.

I'm really not sure how you could change that entitlement mindset :S


RE: Not really a surprise....
By Quiescent on 11/9/2007 7:09:57 PM , Rating: 2
My family is considered mid-class. But even as being mid-class, we still have a bunch of stuff to pay off. Even with the nice insurance we have because my dad works for Cessna, we still have to pay for certain things. I mean like I said before, on the user-side of the economy, it feels like it's completely out of whack. $3 for a gallon of milk here is pretty expensive. You also must figure gas, groceries, and other bills.

I see it as a possibility, but also for the fact that I may be ending up paying a majority of the tuition and other fees because 80k a year may seem like a lot of money. It's really not.


RE: Not really a surprise....
By Ringold on 11/10/2007 2:20:40 AM , Rating: 2
The only problems with throwing (government) money at post-secondary is that, as we've seen in America with heavily subsidized sacred-cow student loans, it encourages wild price inflation. Students become insensitive to cost, universities spend more. The other problem is that "free" or "nearly free" college seems to lead to the next socialist goal; a French sort of system that isn't at all competitive for students, leading to lackluster universities. Sarkozy knows it and is trying to reform it now.

The US universities are the best in the world, so I'd caution against any large changes. That said, in my home state of Florida, college is "free" based on a meritocracy; Bright Futures Scholarships of 75% of tuition is given to anyone who hardly bothers in High School, 100% to those that really try (its still not all that difficult), and then even more aid is available at the community college level. Most people I knew from high school ended up making money by attending college.. I made about $600 per semester, a girlfriend at the time made over $2000. Except for those that slacked off and lost it (a certain GPA must be maintained). I think it works pretty well; those that want it can get it, those that don't want it don't have money wasted on them.

I don't personally view it as insensitive to say not everyone is meant to go to college.


RE: Not really a surprise....
By FITCamaro on 11/10/2007 11:32:35 AM , Rating: 2
Teachers need to be properly trained yes. But the large majority of the reason kids are failing these days is the parents. There is almost no emphasis on an education coming from parents. Parent's bitch and moan about their kid not doing well. But the parents aren't even making sure their kid has their homework done or studies for tests.

A lot of the reason is the degradation of the family today. It's perfectly acceptable to a lot of people for a woman to be a single mother because she wasn't smart enough to make sure the guy used a condom. I mean we've got f*cking 15 and 16 year olds with kids.

The girl I'm starting to date now is finishing up her masters and will be doing her final semester in student teaching this spring. She's already started teaching and she's got students who are 17 and have kids. What kind of values is someone who's a parent at 17 going to teach their own kid?

Yes the schools are primarily teaching abstinence these days because they get federal funding if they do so but its the parents job to provide information on sex as well, not just the schools. If you haven't talked to your kid about sex by the time they're in 8th grade these days, you're not doing your job. That's why we're having to start handing out birth control to f*cking middle school students now.

Parents complain about video games showing sex and violence but then let their 10 year old watch TV shows like Nip/Tuck, Sex and the City, etc. And who's fault is it when a parent buys their kid said video game and its got things in it the parent doesn't want their kid seeing? The video game companies of course. Couldn't possibly be the parents fault for buying them the f*cking game in the first place.

And if you don't want to be stuck with student loan bills, you better start doing well so you get scholarships. And pick a field that isn't over-saturated with people. Try an engineering field.


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