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Canadian-hosted torrent site is the next to fall in a series of takedowns

The world-wide crackdown on torrent sites has brought down another major torrent hub. After being forced to close its doors to Canadian users in September due to pressure from the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA), survived for only slightly more than a month before being having forced offline entirely today.

The previously bustling homepage has been replaced by a single line of text; bereft of much in the way of details, but leaving little doubt as to the fate of the website:

The CRIA threatened the company renting the servers to us, and because of this it is not possible to keep the site online. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your understanding.

The Demonoid tracker and website outage in September was explained as a server rebuild.  With the CRIA now going after the hosts in question, it is unlikely that Demonoid will find a new host within Canada willing to defend themselves.

"Upstream takedown," as its dubbed, is a page right from the U.S. Digital Millenium Copyright Act takedown procedure

After the Interpol takedown of the UK-based site OiNK on October 23rd, many OiNK users were warned that "a criminal investigation" would continue into the site and its users.

No such warning has been posted yet. It may be that Demonoid did not store any information, that the CRIA may have opted to simply remove the site rather than attempt to prosecute the end-users or that it may be a waiting game to determine if the operators will attempt to bring their site back online.

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RE: Not really a surprise....
By Ringold on 11/9/2007 4:11:27 PM , Rating: 0
And we'd in turn say Canada is letting in a bunch of terrorists with your insanely lax asylum & immigration policies. I've read in newspapers since 9/11 of how much its abused, but 6 years on and still little progress.. We here can't do anything, since the US-Canadian border is the least defended and one of the largest borders on Earth.

My understanding is Canada has an agreement to expel draft dodgers in any future US draft. Great. Terrorists > Scared kids?

RE: Not really a surprise....
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 4:20:02 PM , Rating: 2
1.) You say you have no power to stop terrorists at our border.
2.) 6 years later, we've made no progress....and yet, there's been no terrorist attacks in the U.S. from Canada? Hmmmmmmmm....

RE: Not really a surprise....
By Ringold on 11/9/2007 4:33:52 PM , Rating: 2
We don't have any such power.

1) If we stopped them at border crossings, what's to stop them from crossing anywhere else across the thousands of miles of open land? My understand is none of it is actively monitored. A few days camping trip and hello Colorado!

2) Do you think they're reporting all the plots they've foiled or people they're tracking? The 9/11 crew was here for quite a long time before trying anything. Given the number of plots we do know that have been foiled,not just here but throughout Europe as well, to think they've just given up simply because they havent been successful smacks of Chamberlain like thinking.

RE: Not really a surprise....
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 4:40:03 PM , Rating: 2
I never said they've given up, all I've insinuated was that according to you, Canada's immigration security policies are still unchanged since 9/11, and therefore presents a danger to the U.S. in the form of terrorist attacks.

And then I stated how there have been no terrorist attacks in the U.S. or in Canada in those 6 years. "Foiled plots"? We've had one big one, and that was the terrorist cell in Toronto that involved like 13 people, of which a few have already been let go for not being involved, or if so, they played marginal roles.

All I'm saying is that if it were so easy to get into Canada and cross the border around the great lakes to blow up half of New York city, I wonder why no one hasn't done it yet? Or been caught trying it?

RE: Not really a surprise....
By Ringold on 11/9/2007 4:56:14 PM , Rating: 3
If you were a terrorist, and wanted to enter the US, would cross the US-Mexico border, which gets harder by the day?

Or would you cross this virgin place: (That's insane) (First paragraph says it all) (Thats got a solid collection of links) (Gangs are making it in, but terrorists, no?) (review of a relevant book)

Again, just because it hasn't already happened doesn't mean it can't or isn't in motion. Fooling people such as yourself in a sense of security is exactly why this movement has been slow and methodical over what,two or three decades now? It wasn't exactly a rapid succession from African embassy bombings, to the USS Cole, to the WTC.

RE: Not really a surprise....
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 5:25:57 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with you about Sikh terrorists finding asylum here (I can't believe the Air India inquiry found those guys not guilty :S).

I agree that it can and probably will happen down the line...but by proving that the Canadian immigration system is so insecure, you're actually eroding your own position. If 90% of all people from Afghanistan and Pakistan can get in unscreened, then what's stopping them currently? Why haven't they moved yet? The numbers are so outrageous concerning how few people actually get screened that there is essentially no stopping someone from just walking in and blowing something up, YET IT HASN'T HAPPENED. Why would we turn away 30,000 people a year who may or may not be being tortured or persecuted in their own countries just to stop one terrorist attack that MAY happen, but HASN'T in the course of 6 years???

RE: Not really a surprise....
By bangmal on 11/10/2007 12:50:15 PM , Rating: 2
You are a typical stupid american only good at blame shifting and finger pointing.

How about stop killing , looting and raping around the world? The best way to prevent terroists is to be nice.

RE: Not really a surprise....
By kontorotsui on 11/12/2007 11:21:31 AM , Rating: 2
Being nice with Hitler would have helped?

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