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Canadian-hosted torrent site is the next to fall in a series of takedowns

The world-wide crackdown on torrent sites has brought down another major torrent hub. After being forced to close its doors to Canadian users in September due to pressure from the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA), survived for only slightly more than a month before being having forced offline entirely today.

The previously bustling homepage has been replaced by a single line of text; bereft of much in the way of details, but leaving little doubt as to the fate of the website:

The CRIA threatened the company renting the servers to us, and because of this it is not possible to keep the site online. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your understanding.

The Demonoid tracker and website outage in September was explained as a server rebuild.  With the CRIA now going after the hosts in question, it is unlikely that Demonoid will find a new host within Canada willing to defend themselves.

"Upstream takedown," as its dubbed, is a page right from the U.S. Digital Millenium Copyright Act takedown procedure

After the Interpol takedown of the UK-based site OiNK on October 23rd, many OiNK users were warned that "a criminal investigation" would continue into the site and its users.

No such warning has been posted yet. It may be that Demonoid did not store any information, that the CRIA may have opted to simply remove the site rather than attempt to prosecute the end-users or that it may be a waiting game to determine if the operators will attempt to bring their site back online.

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By barjebus on 11/9/2007 12:22:42 PM , Rating: 3
I thought that p2p sharing in Canada wasn't illegal due to the extra tax on recordable CD's and flash memory, which then goes onto the recording industry as recompense? Or am I outdated on my Canadian Copyright laws?

RE: Illegal?
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 12:24:19 PM , Rating: 2
And by this I mean why should the users of such a service have any fears? Sure they can bring down the website itself, but if Demonid gave up the data, it would only be dangerous if the CRIA handed that data off to the RIAA to go after American users of demonoid.

Hm, I guess that's actually pretty self-explanatory since they don't allow Canadian users on their site :S

RE: Illegal?
By Canai on 11/9/2007 12:25:19 PM , Rating: 2
It's not legal per se, but with no DMCA violators are much safer in Canada.

The US influence on Canada is growing. CRIA is nothing more than another RIAA puppet.

RE: Illegal?
By Chris Peredun on 11/9/2007 12:31:56 PM , Rating: 2
Ah, yes, the Canadian "iPod Tax":

The fee on blank media has made it a de facto law that downloading music is not illegal; however, uploading that same music remains illegal. Due to the inherent nature of torrents to download and upload simultaneously, and the requirement of private sites to maintain a certain U/D ratio, that makes them illegal.

RE: Illegal?
By cochy on 11/9/2007 12:41:20 PM , Rating: 2
Nope. Not according to a federal judge:

RE: Illegal?
By pheffern on 11/9/2007 12:59:55 PM , Rating: 2
Two things you have to understand:

1) that article is from 2004 - that's a LONG time ago in the context of copyright case law.

2) The judge referred to in that article (which helpfully doesn't actually mention the name of the case, great work CBC) is a federal court judge - there are two levels of appeal above him. This case led to a flurry of controversy after the federal court decision, and plenty of rumours that music sharing was legal in Canada, before the supreme court overturned this decision. Personal use copying is probably still okay in Canada, but music sharing is NOT legal.

RE: Illegal?
By cochy on 11/9/2007 1:18:50 PM , Rating: 2
I wasn't aware that this decision was overturned.

Could you post some info?

As I live in Canada I think I should be informed on this =)

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