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Let the truth be known about the 65nm PlayStation 3

While neither Microsoft nor Sony has been upfront about the process technology used in their consoles, enthusiasts have had little trouble identifying the different hardware revisions of the Xbox 360. On the other hand, the 40GB PlayStation 3 has everyone guessing just whether or not it uses 65nm technology, with some saying “yes” and others saying “no.” As it turns out, both sides are partially correct.

According to an AV Watch interview with Kazuo Hirai, president of SCEI, the Cell Broadband Engine used in the latest PlayStation 3 production is indeed from a 65nm process. This fully explains the reduced power consumption numbers posted by the new 40GB PS3. The 40GB PS3 now consumes around 100 Watts less during maximum load when compared 90nm Cell/B.E. consoles.

While the PS3’s CPU made the jump to the 65nm process, the GPU is unchanged. Hirai said that the RSX chip is still at the 90nm process, but did not indicate if the GPU would be moved to the 65nm.

As reported by owners of the 40GB PlayStation 3, the newest hardware is the quietest yet. The new PS3 supposedly outputs a noise level of 30 dB, about 6 dB less than the previous model. This improvement is will be greatly appreciated by home theatre enthusiasts using the PlayStation 3 as a Blu-ray Disc player.

At the expense of having a more power efficient and quieter machine, the latest PS3 hardware gives up all PS2 backwards compatibility and the ability to play Super Audio CDs (SACD).

Hirai also revealed that the attributes of the 40GB SKU will soon apply to the entire line family of PlayStation 3 consoles, as the 20GB and 60GB models – the ones with full backwards compatibility –- are no longer in production for any market in the world.


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65nm? They should use the money saved to add BC
By ChipDude on 11/9/2007 3:43:54 PM , Rating: 0
Sony is really stupid, the cost of keeping BC is so small. With migration to 65nm they will save money and power on the chip side. They should use that savings to add back BC hardware back on the PS3

Why you say?

Junior: Mom/dad can I get that new PS3 its only 399 now
Dad: Does it play any of that stack of PS2 games you have?
Junior: NO
Dad: What are you going to play?
Junior: There are a couple new games I want
Dad: How much do they cost?
Junior: ABout 60 bucks
Dad: You still going to play your old games.
Junior: Sure, I'm just going to hook both machines up to the TV.
Dad: Son thats a lot of money to spend and only play a few games. You can still get the really hot new games like Guitar HeroIII on PS2 right.
Junior: Yeah, you are right, but its so cool and more games will come I'm sure!
Dad: Are you sure?
Junior: I'm sure
Dad: But wii and xbox 360 have such a lead. Sony is in last place why should anyone spend time on them first?
Junior: Oh dad, Don't you know Sony is the BEST!
Dad: We're going to wait, okay!
Junior: But dad, it also plays Blue Ray HD movies
Dad: So, I can get a HD-DVD for less then too bucks and we still don't know who will win the format
Junior: Dad.... please.
Dad: We're going to wait. You can still play all your cool PS2 games and lets wait to see when some really good games come out on PS3 and or BR wins the format wars.
Junior: But dad... Sony is the best, their stuff is soo cool, like BR and all
Dad: We're going to wait, its too expensive and not woth it just yet!

Duh, any ? why BC for a few bucks should be thrown in. You'll then get every PS2 owner thinking about upgrading. For 399 they get BR, play all their old games, and get a line on new ones too.

What did I miss, beside the fact Sony management are retarded here?




By Villains on 11/9/2007 4:44:10 PM , Rating: 2
Everyone is a CEO these days and know EVERYTHING there is too know about the insides of how things are done and how much things cost.

So are you part of the Sony financial team and know this for fact?

I cant believe Sony hires these buffoons they have when all they have to do is log on to Daily Tech and they have a plethora of knowledgable people they could choose to run their company.


By ChipDude on 11/9/2007 5:51:48 PM , Rating: 1
The emotion engine on was "estimated" at 11% of the cost
The Cell was "estimated" at something around 11% as well.

What I find interesting is if the emotion engine is the same one used in PS2 that doesn't sound right as it would suggest that PS2 hardware is close to 80 bucks. Simply not right given the current PS2 sales price.

Moving Cell to 65nm should easily reduce the cost of the Cell by 40-50%. That should easily save Sony 30-40 bucks. Given the recent price reductions it would seem silly not to absorb the BC into the high end model since the HD costs between the entry level unit and 60GB unit is much larger then the cost of the HD and additional ports on the unit.

You don't need to be a CEO. The problem is many like you don't learn to digest all the info and come to a conclusion with data independently


By SavagePotato on 11/9/2007 6:44:26 PM , Rating: 2
Conversations like that go more this way.

Dad I want a ps3.

you already have one of those stupid F%@# videogames

But daaaaaaaaad (insert temper tantrum here)

Fine just shut the hell up and ill think about it.


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