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Let the truth be known about the 65nm PlayStation 3

While neither Microsoft nor Sony has been upfront about the process technology used in their consoles, enthusiasts have had little trouble identifying the different hardware revisions of the Xbox 360. On the other hand, the 40GB PlayStation 3 has everyone guessing just whether or not it uses 65nm technology, with some saying “yes” and others saying “no.” As it turns out, both sides are partially correct.

According to an AV Watch interview with Kazuo Hirai, president of SCEI, the Cell Broadband Engine used in the latest PlayStation 3 production is indeed from a 65nm process. This fully explains the reduced power consumption numbers posted by the new 40GB PS3. The 40GB PS3 now consumes around 100 Watts less during maximum load when compared 90nm Cell/B.E. consoles.

While the PS3’s CPU made the jump to the 65nm process, the GPU is unchanged. Hirai said that the RSX chip is still at the 90nm process, but did not indicate if the GPU would be moved to the 65nm.

As reported by owners of the 40GB PlayStation 3, the newest hardware is the quietest yet. The new PS3 supposedly outputs a noise level of 30 dB, about 6 dB less than the previous model. This improvement is will be greatly appreciated by home theatre enthusiasts using the PlayStation 3 as a Blu-ray Disc player.

At the expense of having a more power efficient and quieter machine, the latest PS3 hardware gives up all PS2 backwards compatibility and the ability to play Super Audio CDs (SACD).

Hirai also revealed that the attributes of the 40GB SKU will soon apply to the entire line family of PlayStation 3 consoles, as the 20GB and 60GB models – the ones with full backwards compatibility –- are no longer in production for any market in the world.


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RE: What's the lasting appeal of the PS2?
By Alexstarfire on 11/9/2007 1:19:40 PM , Rating: 2
You're kind of missing the point though. Do you want to have to go buy another console and hook it up to your TV? Not sure about you, but I'm already out of connections for my TV, and it's got 3 input components. I've got one for our satellite TV, 1 for DVD, 1 for Wii, and I'm even using the coaxial cable input for my N64. You can only piggyback on that cable input for so long before you loose quality, or in my case get static.

I'm not saying EVERYTHING should be backwards compatible, but you should at least be able to be backwards compatible for one generation. Like, the PS2 can play PS1 games, the Wii can play gamecube games, the DS can play all gameboy games, etc.. If a console truly is more powerful than the last one I don't see why it's so difficult to get it to do backwards compatibility. Obviously it may not be possible with different media, as from the N64 to the gamecube shows, but the PS3 can read DVDs and CDs if I'm not mistaken.

Consoles also don't last forever. If you're PS2 dies but you have a PS3, do you really want to go back and buy another PS2? That's the concept that I see. Why go buy an older console just to play older games when you have a new, more powerful console. That console should be able to play the old "inferior" games just fine.

The way I see it, dropping backwards compatibility just drives the demand for more PS2s. I think Sony is banking on the PS2 until they can reduce the cost of the PS3 enough.


RE: What's the lasting appeal of the PS2?
By deeznuts on 11/9/2007 1:31:55 PM , Rating: 2
You really should be hooking up a PS3 through HDMI though, which most previous components shouldn't have or don't have. Only through HDMI will you get 1080p on upscaled dvds (component is fine for gaming and blu-ray).

There problem solved ;)

I don't see a problem with people wanting BC on their PS3. Hell I've never owned a PS1 or PS2. God of War is one of the best games I've ever played! GOWII as well. I also don't have a problem with Sony removing BC on their value line.

If you want the BC, cough up for the 80GB. If that's still too expensive, oh well, save up, or don't. No use whining about it on the net.


By Alexstarfire on 11/9/2007 4:45:51 PM , Rating: 2
You're right on that one, but I don't have an HDTV and I don't plan on getting one for many years.


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