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Toshiba HD-A3 HD DVD Player
Best Buy brings Christmas early to some customers

Best Buy often gets a reputation of not having the best customer service and looking down on "devil customers" who only come to Best Buy locations to score hot deals.

Over the past few years, Best Buy has done much to better its image. The store ditched mail-in rebates which many customers complained about -- all Best Buy merchandise now carries instant savings instead.

Best Buy's latest move, however, may be one of the best yet for "devil customers."
It was reported yesterday on DailyTech that Wal-Mart would have the Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD player on sale for $98.97 Friday morning. Best Buy followed suit by offering the HD-A2 online and in-store for $99.99.

As one might imagine, Best Buy stores were quickly depleted of stock and was hammered with excess orders. Although some orders were able to get through, an overwhelming majority of customers who purchased HD-A2s from received backorder notices.

Given that the HD-A2 is now discontinued, one would have expected that Best Buy would just cancel all of the orders and be done with it -- but you would be wrong. Best Buy instead is replacing all backordered HD-A2 players with the new third-generation HD-A3 which retails for $299.99.

A letter sent to Toshiba HD-A2 customers reads as follows:

Dear Valued Best Buy Customer,

You are receiving this email because you recently ordered a Toshiba HD DVD Player (model # HD-A2) from and your order was placed in a backorder status while we awaited additional inventory. Unfortunately, the manufacturer has discontinued this item and we are not anticipating receiving any more inventory.

Because we value your business, we will be fulfilling your order with the next generation Toshiba HD DVD Player (model # HD-A3) that is replacing the HD-A2 in Toshiba's lineup of HD DVD Players. There is no need for you to do anything to receive this upgraded model. We will simply fulfill your original order and your packing slip will be updated to show you received the HD-A3 and serve as your order receipt.

If you are not interested in receiving the Toshiba HD-A3 as a replacement for the discontinued HD-A2, you may return the unopened item to your nearest Best Buy store or simply contact one of our Customer Service Representatives at (888)-BestBuy for more information about how to return the product for a complete refund.

Please accept our apology for any inconvenience. We look forward to your next visit to Best Buy.

Best Buy Customer Care 

Those persons who were sad to get a backorders notice should be delighted that they will be receiving a brand new third-generation unit instead.

The excitement should build even further considering that all third-generation Toshiba HD DVD player (including the HD-A3) come bundled with "300" and "The Bourne Identity” in addition to the five free movies that can be had after a mail-in rebate [PDF].

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RE: who cares.
By 8steve8 on 11/3/2007 8:54:23 AM , Rating: -1
when a news site pushes articles on every sale for 1 format, and every new sales record and marketing push...

it is about the format war... if this was a USB cable or a monitor ... dailytech wouldn't write about it/ publish it.

it's no secret dailytech is pro-HDDVD, just as its anti-globalwarming.... neither view is particularly attractive to me.

of course i dont have to read it..
im giving dailytech a headsup before they alianate their core readers... those who probably would rather hear about other things than every single sale, how companies are treating backorders and the claims from the backers of the format....

seeing a large percentage of news articles devoted to HD-DVD makes the site less relevant and therefore less attractive to visit... a bias is ok, maybe unavoidable... but this is rediculous... also in general we just dont care that much... an article per month , fine.

RE: who cares.
By Lonyo on 11/3/2007 9:36:34 AM , Rating: 2
Um, there are lots of articles about HD-DVD because Bluray isn't doing anything.
Show sales of Bluray players for <$100, or even $200.
The fact is that the huge drop in price for high def players is something worth reporting.
When only one side is dropping prices, you can only report on one side. Show us where places are selling Bluray players for $100 and I am sure Dailytech will post a story about it.

There are lots of stories about HD-DVD because there are lots of things to say about it, since they are making moves.

RE: who cares.
By Master Kenobi on 11/3/2007 10:15:14 AM , Rating: 2
Amazon is selling the A2 for 139.99 right now, ships from Tigerdirect. Still not a bad price.

RE: who cares.
By Targon on 11/3/2007 9:45:38 AM , Rating: 2
There have been reports here about Blu-Ray being ahead when those reports come out. The fact of the matter is that you just can NOT find a Blu-Ray player for anywhere near the $200 mark(which is where most consumers draw the line).

There are people who are willing to buy a PS3, but for those who don't care about consoles, the price is too high for a stand-alone player with movie viewing as the only reason for the purchase. So, where do you see even stand-alone Blu-Ray player for even $400 for the unit? That is the reason why Blu-Ray will suffer in the long run, because the number of Blu-Ray player sales will be much lower.

The same thing applies to MacOS software if you think about it. MacOS itself would sell a LOT better, and software for MacOS would sell a lot better if the OS were opened up to run on all x86 systems. Because the number of machines the OS can run on is fairly low compared to the overall market, and the computer prices needed to run MacOS is higher, the sales of MacOS and software that runs on it will remain much lower. If you force yourself into a niche market, you end up in a niche, instead of being the dominant platform.

RE: who cares.
By MagnumMan on 11/3/07, Rating: 0
RE: who cares.
By djc208 on 11/3/2007 9:46:34 AM , Rating: 3
Because DailyTech never prints anything about Blue Ray:

and this is just in the last week. Truth is what does Blue Ray have to brag about right now? Profile 1.1, which gives Blue Ray the same features the $99 HD-DVD player I just bought already has? 1080p support? Maybe someday it will be a big deal but right now Most HDTVs are still 720p.

If Dailytech hasn't been singing the praises of Blue Ray enough for you, maybe that's because right now Blue Ray doesn't have much to sing about.

RE: who cares.
By Tegeril on 11/3/2007 7:58:08 PM , Rating: 2

Why is it so hard!?

RE: who cares.
By mWMA on 11/3/2007 9:49:40 AM , Rating: 2
Last time I checked I saw plenty of news on dailytech regarding the PS3 and its Blu-Ray and its price changes.

Considering PS3 is currently the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market but that cannot compete with $99 HD DVD player. It think daily tech coverage is not baised to any one format but more so it is comments that may present the article to be forming a bias.
I guess maybe it would make you happier if a alternate news link were show for Blu-Ray on every HD DVD article and vice versa.

RE: who cares.
By KristopherKubicki on 11/3/2007 10:39:22 AM , Rating: 2
And go figure, I have a Blu-ray player.

RE: who cares.
By Master Kenobi on 11/5/2007 12:46:08 PM , Rating: 4
My condolences.

RE: who cares.
By Performance Fanboi on 11/3/2007 12:23:49 PM , Rating: 2
Hey Steve - speak for yourself! What makes you think that you speak for the "core readers" here at DT? It seem that there are quite a few people, myself included, who find this type of article worth reading - maybe they/we are the core readers. It is also interesting to me that you have such a strong opinion about an article you completely missed the point of - this is about Bestbuy handling its customers not the HD/Blu-ray war.

RE: who cares.
By lumbergeek on 11/3/2007 12:41:33 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly. He doesn't get the point.

RE: who cares.
By SavagePotato on 11/3/07, Rating: -1
RE: who cares.
By CKDragon on 11/3/2007 2:04:39 PM , Rating: 2
So which completely unbiased site do you suggest we read?

For that matter, which completely unbiased site is passing judgement on the AV friggin S Forum ?

RE: who cares.
By SavagePotato on 11/3/07, Rating: -1
RE: who cares.
By CKDragon on 11/3/2007 2:59:50 PM , Rating: 2
So are you of the opinion that the first HD or BD format player to break $100 and Best Buy actually giving decent customer service to the masses for once are news stories that should not be posted?

That certainly seemed to be the point 8steve8 was making. How do you suggest we let the editors at DailyTech know that 8steve8 does not speak for the majority? Is voting him down and disagreeing with him in a post not allowed? What other method do you suggest? Find me one example of 8steve8 being "violently fanboy attacked" for what he said in this very thread.

"Violently fanboy attacked"... you're clearly unbiased.

RE: who cares.
By SavagePotato on 11/3/07, Rating: -1
RE: who cares.
By SunAngel on 11/3/2007 3:21:58 PM , Rating: 1
I agree on the HD DVD issue.

However, as far as Vista is concerned I think its unpopularity is solely in the enthusiast community where hackers are quite prevelent and vocal.

Most of the dissatifaction, in my opinion, has to do with hackers annoyance with UAC. Before, they could just meddle within your machine and not get noticed. Now, UAC notices they are there and they have to get permission to make the registry changes they need to promlegate though your computer. An astute person paying attention to what is going on in their system is going to notice something is not right.

So, obviously this makes their missions harder. The opinion of Vista in the blogspheres is not going to get better until two things happen: a) UAC is put to rest (defeated), and b) the masterkey for DRM is widely available.

RE: who cares.
By DarkElfa on 11/3/2007 3:35:26 PM , Rating: 3
Why shouldn't I be pro HD-DVD, they're actually producing something I can afford to purchase. Hell, my last DVD player cost more than $99.99.

RE: who cares.
By SavagePotato on 11/3/07, Rating: -1
RE: who cares.
By Procurion on 11/6/2007 9:39:43 AM , Rating: 2
It becomes very apparent that you are both young and not very computer savvy, SunAngel. For those of you that are too young to remember, the older people here remember the details of the VHS vs BetaMax fiasco. Sony tried to do what it's doing now. They released an overpriced, proprietary format and refused to do anything to reduce the prices until they were toast. This, with the "numbers sold" BS and all the other rhetoric is a mirror of what has happened SEVERAL times with Sony.

You are just too young to remember and don't have a full grasp of what Sony does. They produce mostly over-priced equipment of usually exceptional quality and try to use proprietary methods so that they can keep the prices up without dropping them. That is the definition of a company that works a niche market. By trying to force a world-wide standard it generates a lot of ill-will. BluRay, for good or bad, has just become an interesting historical note just like it's predecessor, BetaMax. The mass market is for sub-$100 players and Sony will never do that.

I can't believe that Kubicki actually owns one! Oh well, it'll look good in the closet next to his Beta video machine.

The other issue, Vista....have you not been reading this site? The reason that Vista is not a massive success is because there are driver and performance issues that don't make it worth a $200-$300 leap for nothing gained. You also don't understand hacking...if you expect UAC is stopping them, and are relying on it you are already in trouble. DRM is a non-starter, also...5 minutes searching and you'll never need to worry about DRM again.

I'd also like to point out to you and Steve that the ratings and number of posts indicate what people want to read. You have no right to speak for me or the other 60 people in my office that read this site daily. Do what I do....scan the titles and if you don't like it, don't read it. DO NOT tell me what I like or don't like, or what YOU think I should be allowed to read based on YOUR preferences!!!!!!!

RE: who cares.
By CKDragon on 11/3/2007 4:12:44 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not basing my observations on the situation simply on this story. It has been my observation that if you post anything pro blu-ray, even in a courteous manner you will get rated down, jumped all over, and told all the reasons why you should be supporting HD-DVD immediately. Often times with site admins chiming in as well.

But see you're contributing to the accusations, that means the burden of proof is on you. I'd like to see these "violent fanboy attacks" supported by the chiming site admins.

Maybe after seeing these crimes against humanity I'll ask you again where these forums are that have a consensus on DT and AVS Forum's bias so that we may post together on those boards. Maybe when I ask this time, you'll actually have an answer.

Rate down and attack all you wish, it only points it out to be correct.

<Vince Vaughn>ERRONEOUS!</Vince Vaughn>

RE: who cares.
By SavagePotato on 11/3/07, Rating: -1
RE: who cares.
By 8steve8 on 11/3/07, Rating: -1
RE: who cares.
By timmiser on 11/5/2007 12:51:30 PM , Rating: 2
So if DT had an article that says,

"Blu-Ray players remain at $400 MSRP"

Would that make you happy??

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